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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, only strivers on the outside looking in think or pretend tier twos are on the cusp of elite. The truly elite have history, traditions, patina, they offer status, a tightknit network, they have a distinct vibe and ethos that can not be replicated at the inferior wannabes, and their alums aren't ever confused for nitwit state school grads. When parents hear your child is at an Ivy, Stanford or MIT they're intrigued, they wanna know how you did it, who they're dating, what they're studying, who they're rubbing elbows with. Nobody freakin' cares about your kid tailgating in Nashville or dodging snowstorms in a purple hoodie in boring suburban Cook County or dodging armed robberies in dreary south side Chicago or dusting off Newt Gingrich's dissertation in Atlanta. The tier twos are full of smart kids, sure, but smart workerbees are a dime a dozen. Truly impressive difference makers go to truly impressive schools – they and their families won't settle for anything less. Maybe they don't get into Harvard but they do get into Penn or MIT or Brown, of course. The more you desperate strivers keep this up the more pathetic and insecure you look. Look, your child got into a good school – be proud, but please cease this whole pretending you know anything about the Ivy League charade. You don't know what you don't know, you do not comprehend what your child is missing out on. And the reality is no hiring committee has ever said "we must hire that Emory/UChicago/Rice/Northwestern/Vandy candidate!" It's actually laughable to think those schools pop off any CV. Most people haven't even heard of the tier twos, and if they have, they don't really care about them. Just the honest truth.

Patrick Bateman is real, people.

Anonymous wrote:Frankly, only strivers on the outside looking in think or pretend tier twos are on the cusp of elite. The truly elite have history, traditions, patina, they offer status, a tightknit network, they have a distinct vibe and ethos that can not be replicated at the inferior wannabes, and their alums aren't ever confused for nitwit state school grads. When parents hear your child is at an Ivy, Stanford or MIT they're intrigued, they wanna know how you did it, who they're dating, what they're studying, who they're rubbing elbows with. Nobody freakin' cares about your kid tailgating in Nashville or dodging snowstorms in a purple hoodie in boring suburban Cook County or dodging armed robberies in dreary south side Chicago or dusting off Newt Gingrich's dissertation in Atlanta. The tier twos are full of smart kids, sure, but smart workerbees are a dime a dozen. Truly impressive difference makers go to truly impressive schools – they and their families won't settle for anything less. Maybe they don't get into Harvard but they do get into Penn or MIT or Brown, of course. The more you desperate strivers keep this up the more pathetic and insecure you look. Look, your child got into a good school – be proud, but please cease this whole pretending you know anything about the Ivy League charade. You don't know what you don't know, you do not comprehend what your child is missing out on. And the reality is no hiring committee has ever said "we must hire that Emory/UChicago/Rice/Northwestern/Vandy candidate!" It's actually laughable to think those schools pop off any CV. Most people haven't even heard of the tier twos, and if they have, they don't really care about them. Just the honest truth.

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Anonymous wrote:Coming across the JHU thread and it’s clear there are some people unfamiliar with American colleges who think Ivy League = the best. It is worth repeating that there are just as many universities NOT in the Ivy League that are just as good and just as prestigious as the Ivies.

Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Cal Tech, JHU, Northwestern, Duke

If we expand to LACS, add Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore and Pomona.

If these schools were to just start their own separate academic “league,” they would rival the Ivy League, easily.

Lol JHU not elite? May be not to grandpa in rural Potatoland. Add Vanderbilt, Rice, Bard, as well.

.........Bard?

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Anonymous wrote:Coming across the JHU thread and it’s clear there are some people unfamiliar with American colleges who think Ivy League = the best. It is worth repeating that there are just as many universities NOT in the Ivy League that are just as good and just as prestigious as the Ivies.

Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Cal Tech, JHU, Northwestern, Duke

If we expand to LACS, add Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore and Pomona.

If these schools were to just start their own separate academic “league,” they would rival the Ivy League, easily.

Lol JHU not elite? May be not to grandpa in rural Potatoland. Add Vanderbilt, Rice, Bard, as well.

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Anonymous wrote:To me the elite schools are:

Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Hopkins, Amherst, Williams

Agree

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Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton
2. Columbia, Harvard, MIT
5. Yale
6. Stanford, UChicago
8. UPenn
9. Caltech, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern
13. Dartmouth

LOL. desperate columbia mom,

Oh, sweet naive child. This is the US News ranking.

Anonymous wrote:Coming across the JHU thread and it’s clear there are some people unfamiliar with American colleges who think Ivy League = the best. It is worth repeating that there are just as many universities NOT in the Ivy League that are just as good and just as prestigious as the Ivies.

Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Cal Tech, JHU, Northwestern, Duke

If we expand to LACS, add Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore and Pomona.

If these schools were to just start their own separate academic “league,” they would rival the Ivy League, easily.

Anonymous wrote:To me the elite schools are:

Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Hopkins, Amherst, Williams

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Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton
2. Columbia, Harvard, MIT
5. Yale
6. Stanford, UChicago
8. UPenn
9. Caltech, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern
13. Dartmouth

Why are you leaving out Brown and Cornell if you’re Ivy obsessed? Probably because Brown is tied with Vanderbilt, which doesn’t fit your narrative. Same with Cornell, which is ranked even lower. Give it a break. You’re fooling no one except yourself.

Fool, This is the US News ranking.

You’re the fool. Of course it’s the USNWR ranking, but since you’re obsessed with Ivies, why aren’t you including all of them? My claim is that you left out Brown and Cornell because they are tied with or ranked below other schools you don’t want to include. In essence, you are cherry-picking the data to fit your narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton
2. Columbia, Harvard, MIT
5. Yale
6. Stanford, UChicago
8. UPenn
9. Caltech, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern
13. Dartmouth

Number 13 has any special meaning??

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Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with T20 = Ivy level. Cornell is severely underranked by US News. I'd personally put it in the top 15, which most other ranking systems do as well, so I'd say T15 is around Ivy level. That leaves 8 Ivy Leagues + about 7 other schools.

The universe doesn't revolve around Ivy.
T10 T20 sound more natural

Or just "Ivy Plus."