Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate prestige tiers:

1: HYPSM
2: Columbia, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Penn
3: Hopkins, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
4: Berkeley, Michigan, UCLA, UVA, UNC, Rice, Vanderbilt

This is the official list. I don’t make the rules. Don’t shoot the messenger.

Wrong. This is an old list. No longer applicable. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

The US News list is a helpful guide, but not the end all, be all. Also, prestige for the top schools is pretty sticky.

The USNews is a helpful guide - but DCUM anonymous posts by podunks is the definitive guide. DUUM.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate prestige tiers:

1: HYPSM
2: Columbia, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Penn
3: Hopkins, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
4: Berkeley, Michigan, UCLA, UVA, UNC, Rice, Vanderbilt

This is the official list. I don’t make the rules. Don’t shoot the messenger.

Wrong. This is an old list. No longer applicable. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

The US News list is a helpful guide, but not the end all, be all. Also, prestige for the top schools is pretty sticky.

Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate prestige tiers:

1: Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT
2: Columbia, Chicago, Caltech, Northwestern, Duke, Penn
3: Hopkins, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
4: Berkeley, Michigan, UCLA, UVA, UNC, Rice, Vanderbilt

This is the official list. I don’t make the rules. Don’t shoot the messenger.

Agree with this

No.

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins is academically tougher but Ivy brand has social clout and wealthier/connected community. Not all rich and famous can graduate Hopkins but it’s easier to graduate from ivies.

Source? Unless you've attended both, not sure how you would know.

Hopkins is academically tougher but Ivy brand has social clout and wealthier/connected community. Not all rich and famous can graduate Hopkins but it’s easier to graduate from ivies.

JHU is not an IVY because that is an athletic conference that does not include JHU. How does this get 19 pages of responses? Ivys are storied and cute but not necessarily the best schools anymore (stanford, mit, etc).

For medical studies, I'd put JHU at a top 3. For CS, maybe 30. So, the rankings really depend on what you want to do.

Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate prestige tiers:

1: HYPSM
2: Columbia, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Penn
3: Hopkins, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
4: Berkeley, Michigan, UCLA, UVA, UNC, Rice, Vanderbilt

This is the official list. I don’t make the rules. Don’t shoot the messenger.

Wrong. This is an old list. No longer applicable. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

The term “Ivy League” first entered the lexicon during the Depression, but it didn’t become an actual sports league until 1954 when eight schools agreed not to give athletic scholarships but rather to concentrate on academics. These were Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, and University of Pennsylvania. Massachusetts Institute of Technology participates in all Ivy functions although it’s not officially a member.

So, no.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We just went through a pandemic where Hopkins was listed as the main research on everything so what does it matter if it’s under the umbrella of an Ivy?

It doesn't matter to people who understand higher education in the U.S.; it matters to people who need sound bites and shorthand.

And it's ridiculous that there are people who seem to believe that a school's participation in this sports league has anything to do with the quality of the university for education and higher learning. It happens that most of the Ivies are good schools, not because of their inclusion in the Ivy league, but rather, in spite of.

Hopkins is below about half of the Ivy League schools, on a par with a couple and stronger than a couple of the schools.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Ivy League is a sports league. So only schools who are members are considered Ivies.

Seriously, you may as well be asking if Clemson is in the SEC.

And yet so many people do not understand this, it seems.

What does the Ivy League have to do with sports ball?

Weel, because it is a sportsball league.

No

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Ivy League is a sports league. So only schools who are members are considered Ivies.

Seriously, you may as well be asking if Clemson is in the SEC.

And yet so many people do not understand this, it seems.

What does the Ivy League have to do with sports ball?

No