Anonymous
Post 10/22/2020 10:58     Subject: Re:Feedback on MadLax
to the previous post on roster size/cheating:

This thread is out of control.
1. These are kids. No adult should be disparaging/attacking children over their lacrosse abilities. Kids shouldn’t do that to each other either, but adults? You know better. It’s not just mean, it’s downright cruel. STOP.
2. People are upset. This started as someone sharing his/her concerns, but has devolved into nastiness. And none of this will be resolved on DC Urban Moms with people attacking each other.
3. As to cheating: I don’t know what the roster rules are for tournaments. In travel soccer, kids guest with higher-level teams within the club and outside the club all the time and it’s not cheating.
4. Legacy families/rosters: the tone of the 'play DMV or go back' is rude and I don't think we all embrace that. That's all.
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2020 10:38     Subject: Feedback on MadLax
It sure what to do about it? Really? The ungrateful quitter email will be worth it. Many teams are out there
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2020 10:36     Subject: Re:Feedback on MadLax
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are things with 2026 and 2028?


ML2028 Capital picked up a few players from BLC but as far as I know without nearly the drama associated to 2027.

Somewhat related topic, what's up with the younger BLC Blue teams (2028 and 2027) where multiple players are moving to new clubs...


I heard only 1 out of 3 of the BLC players that moved get any real playing time, and the other two are basically on DMV.


Sounds like there are some bitter BLC parents with abandonment issues. The BLC coaches who left were volunteers who didn't get the support they need from the BLC Board. They are doing what's best for their kids. Surely you can do the same without belittling people who gave so much of their hard work, time and effort to try and develop your son. No coach is perfect. Criticize them if you want. But please leave kids out of it. If you're happy with BLC, great. If not, move on.
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2020 10:11     Subject: Re:Feedback on MadLax
[quote=Anonymous]Ditto to the counter of the post that ‘BLC kids can play DMV or go back.’ I really don't think legacy families believe that at all.
And some of the posts before that, calling out certain kids are mean. STOP.[/quote]

Then I guess you are okay with the huge roster and constant trying out for playing time? If it's your kid getting bumped down to DMV or even to 2nd or 3rd line, I'm sure you'll be really okay with it.

What do the legacy families think should happen with the roster of 30+?

And I don't think it's okay we are cheating in allowing players to play on 2 ML teams at the same tournament but not sure what to do about it.
Anonymous
Post 10/22/2020 09:44     Subject: Re:Feedback on MadLax
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Didn’t BLC 2028 have a similar thing happen too? A bunch of kids left for Madlax and NL, including the coaches’ kid.


Yes. 2027 and 2028 BLC imploded.

The era of the Dad Coach For Club Lacrosse is coming to a close. Parents are sick of watching the Professionally coached teams develop faster from year to year.

It also puts parents in a tough spot having to criticize the Fathers of their sons best friends/classmates.

It’s not the Dads fault. BLC makes them coach for too long. They should stop after third grade.

BLC needs to decide if they are a rec program or an elite club program and enter tournaments accordingly. Don’t tell the parents you are an elite program if you are not committed to that type of development or accountability.

If your Clubs mission statement is that winning games is the least important part of youth lacrosse then don’t play at the Elite level. Maybe just stay as a rec program as they do that very well.

Are there any other Dad Coached Elite club programs that are also great rec programs? Is it possible to be great at both? I would love to hear some examples. I don’t think it’s possible in today’s world.


Parents are also jockeying earlier and earlier to get into an elite team and don’t want to pay north of $2,500 for sub par development. There are Tens of thousands of dollars at stake in private school athletic scholarships so being a strong player summer/fall of 7th grade is very important.

There is actually more money at stake in our area for Private high school scholarships then there are for D1 college dreams.

Don’t expect DC Express to magically fix everything in eighth grade. That’s too late.



Interesting. Madlax 24 and 28 are dad coached. And BLC in fact has professional coaches rounding out the teams.




Actually not true--- the 2028 BLC coach is a dad (his son was on the Orange team, but the both of them bumped up with the old coach and players left". The MadLax 2028 team is coached by the owner and a non-dad coach.


You are wrong. Both ML and BLC 2028 teams are coached by a Dad (ML owner) and a non Dad professional coach (and some additional assistants).
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2020 22:42     Subject: Re:Feedback on MadLax
Agree and it’s disturbing...

As someone who has already gone through all of this, d1 lacrosse is not nearly as hyped up as some of these club coaches make it out to be.

Make sure you son truly understands the commitment required has the willpower / competitive mindset to compete
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2020 22:20     Subject: Re:Feedback on MadLax
Anonymous wrote:Not sure where you are getting your information from, but not true at all. ML 28 just had their first Fall tournament and all the kids (including the kids that just moved up from DMV and the kids that moved from BLC) got a lot of playing time.



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are things with 2026 and 2028?


ML2028 Capital picked up a few players from BLC but as far as I know without nearly the drama associated to 2027.

Somewhat related topic, what's up with the younger BLC Blue teams (2028 and 2027) where multiple players are moving to new clubs...


I heard only 1 out of 3 of the BLC players that moved get any real playing time, and the other two are basically on DMV.


So many electrons by so many parents about 11 and 12 year olds...
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2020 20:31     Subject: Re:Feedback on MadLax
Not sure where you are getting your information from, but not true at all. ML 28 just had their first Fall tournament and all the kids (including the kids that just moved up from DMV and the kids that moved from BLC) got a lot of playing time.



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are things with 2026 and 2028?


ML2028 Capital picked up a few players from BLC but as far as I know without nearly the drama associated to 2027.

Somewhat related topic, what's up with the younger BLC Blue teams (2028 and 2027) where multiple players are moving to new clubs...


I heard only 1 out of 3 of the BLC players that moved get any real playing time, and the other two are basically on DMV.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2020 20:23     Subject: Re:Feedback on MadLax
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Didn’t BLC 2028 have a similar thing happen too? A bunch of kids left for Madlax and NL, including the coaches’ kid.


Yes. 2027 and 2028 BLC imploded.

The era of the Dad Coach For Club Lacrosse is coming to a close. Parents are sick of watching the Professionally coached teams develop faster from year to year.

It also puts parents in a tough spot having to criticize the Fathers of their sons best friends/classmates.

It’s not the Dads fault. BLC makes them coach for too long. They should stop after third grade.

BLC needs to decide if they are a rec program or an elite club program and enter tournaments accordingly. Don’t tell the parents you are an elite program if you are not committed to that type of development or accountability.

If your Clubs mission statement is that winning games is the least important part of youth lacrosse then don’t play at the Elite level. Maybe just stay as a rec program as they do that very well.

Are there any other Dad Coached Elite club programs that are also great rec programs? Is it possible to be great at both? I would love to hear some examples. I don’t think it’s possible in today’s world.


Parents are also jockeying earlier and earlier to get into an elite team and don’t want to pay north of $2,500 for sub par development. There are Tens of thousands of dollars at stake in private school athletic scholarships so being a strong player summer/fall of 7th grade is very important.

There is actually more money at stake in our area for Private high school scholarships then there are for D1 college dreams.

Don’t expect DC Express to magically fix everything in eighth grade. That’s too late.



Interesting. Madlax 24 and 28 are dad coached. And BLC in fact has professional coaches rounding out the teams.




Actually not true--- the 2028 BLC coach is a dad (his son was on the Orange team, but the both of them bumped up with the old coach and players left". The MadLax 2028 team is coached by the owner and a non-dad coach.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2020 20:23     Subject: Re:Feedback on MadLax
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Didn’t BLC 2028 have a similar thing happen too? A bunch of kids left for Madlax and NL, including the coaches’ kid.


Yes. 2027 and 2028 BLC imploded.

The era of the Dad Coach For Club Lacrosse is coming to a close. Parents are sick of watching the Professionally coached teams develop faster from year to year.

It also puts parents in a tough spot having to criticize the Fathers of their sons best friends/classmates.

It’s not the Dads fault. BLC makes them coach for too long. They should stop after third grade.

BLC needs to decide if they are a rec program or an elite club program and enter tournaments accordingly. Don’t tell the parents you are an elite program if you are not committed to that type of development or accountability.

If your Clubs mission statement is that winning games is the least important part of youth lacrosse then don’t play at the Elite level. Maybe just stay as a rec program as they do that very well.

Are there any other Dad Coached Elite club programs that are also great rec programs? Is it possible to be great at both? I would love to hear some examples. I don’t think it’s possible in today’s world.


Parents are also jockeying earlier and earlier to get into an elite team and don’t want to pay north of $2,500 for sub par development. There are Tens of thousands of dollars at stake in private school athletic scholarships so being a strong player summer/fall of 7th grade is very important.

There is actually more money at stake in our area for Private high school scholarships then there are for D1 college dreams.

Don’t expect DC Express to magically fix everything in eighth grade. That’s too late.



Interesting. Madlax 24 and 28 are dad coached. And BLC in fact has professional coaches rounding out the teams.



Not true
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2020 20:23     Subject: Re:Feedback on MadLax
Ditto to the counter of the post that ‘BLC kids can play DMV or go back.’ I really don't think legacy families believe that at all.
And some of the posts before that, calling out certain kids are mean. STOP.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2020 20:06     Subject: Feedback on MadLax
Yes.
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2020 19:54     Subject: Re:Feedback on MadLax
So there is only one 2023 ML A team?
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2020 19:49     Subject: Re:Feedback on MadLax
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only thing that makes any sense is that the BLC team was promised a team of their own -- Like DC Dogs.

I can't imagine the BLC parents thought the whole team would become part of Capital and replace the existing players.

Any BLC parent care to comment?


They have a team of their own and it's the DMV team. The 1 or 2 BLC players can switch to DMV to play with their friends and that team can be supplemented with kids in the program. The BLC dad can coach the team and those 2 teams can fight it out over the winter and in competing tournaments to find out which team plays in the top division of HoCo in the spring. Seems pretty easy to me and change the name too if that really bothers the BLC contingent. Otherwise, go back to BLC Orange for the year and have the same structure over there for winter and spring.


The DC dogs were considered as good or better than the Capital team. DMV is clearly the B team and they do B tournaments.

DC dogs were way better than the Capital team and the time. The Capital team folded I think they only have one or maybe two kids from the old ML team
Anonymous
Post 10/21/2020 18:49     Subject: Re:Feedback on MadLax
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only thing that makes any sense is that the BLC team was promised a team of their own -- Like DC Dogs.

I can't imagine the BLC parents thought the whole team would become part of Capital and replace the existing players.

Any BLC parent care to comment?


They have a team of their own and it's the DMV team. The 1 or 2 BLC players can switch to DMV to play with their friends and that team can be supplemented with kids in the program. The BLC dad can coach the team and those 2 teams can fight it out over the winter and in competing tournaments to find out which team plays in the top division of HoCo in the spring. Seems pretty easy to me and change the name too if that really bothers the BLC contingent. Otherwise, go back to BLC Orange for the year and have the same structure over there for winter and spring.


The DC dogs were considered as good or better than the Capital team. DMV is clearly the B team and they do B tournaments.