Anonymous
08/21/2020 15:09
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please tell us how many college students, professors and faculty are in the hospitals. Not 80+ year old retirement home residents.
Right, who cares who Notre Dame ends up killing with their recklessness as long as it’s not a student or faculty.
Well if they keep kids on campus, they aren’t exactly going to be infecting hospice and nursing home patients. Honestly, keeping all these young people in college campuses is probably the safest place for them!
It may well be the safest place for them, but that’s not the whole picture. I think people don’t realize just how many other people it takes to support all those students on campus. Faculty members are only a small part of it. Every university also employs food service workers, custodial staff, groundskeepers, residence hall staff, administrative staff, technical support staff, etc. Who do you think is coordinating and delivering food to all these quarantined students? (Or not, as the case may be!) Cleaning their rooms? Keeping their WiFi working? Many of these people are high risk themselves. Many have elderly parents or immune-compromised spouses, who live with them or in nursing homes. Universities are major employers and they are responsible for the well-being of a lot of people, not just students. The higher the positivity rate on campus, the more risk those employees and their families take on. That’s just the truth. We can argue about whether it’s fair to put that risk on them but we can’t just ignore it.
Yes, let’s not forget most really need their jobs.
Anonymous
08/21/2020 14:59
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:In neighboring Michigan, 70 of the 75 Covid-19 deaths last week were in long-term care facilities. This is not a college campus issue.
Michigan does not track where a person resides who has covid other than county which can create enough problems by itself. If person X resides in County A most of the time, but has a vacation home on County B and while at her vacation home feels ill and goes to a hospital in County C -- deciding where to put that event is not easy.
Anonymous
08/21/2020 14:37
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please tell us how many college students, professors and faculty are in the hospitals. Not 80+ year old retirement home residents.
Right, who cares who Notre Dame ends up killing with their recklessness as long as it’s not a student or faculty.
Corona was in South Bend before kids went back to school. Only in your unhinged hallucinations are you able to trace nursing home deaths to partying college kids. Give it a rest, sweetie.
Sweetie, you're uninformed. Do you understand what community spread it? What do you think will happen when Notre Dame sends its students back home, all across the country? Do you think that the only people in nursing homes are the elderly? How do you think institutions like colleges and nursing homes actually run? Do you realize how many non-students come into contact with colleges and nursing homes who are NOT students or the infirm? There could very well be only two degrees of separation between a college student and nursing home resident. Let me give you an example--partying college kid comes into contact with dining hall worker. Dining hall worker has night shift at the nursing home, delivering meals to elderly residents. Can you connect the dots? This is what community spread means.
Anonymous
08/21/2020 14:24
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please tell us how many college students, professors and faculty are in the hospitals. Not 80+ year old retirement home residents.
Right, who cares who Notre Dame ends up killing with their recklessness as long as it’s not a student or faculty.
Corona was in South Bend before kids went back to school. Only in your unhinged hallucinations are you able to trace nursing home deaths to partying college kids. Give it a rest, sweetie.
You don't understand how infectious disease works, do you? A rise in infections anywhere in a community (e.g. a college campus) threatens to boost infections everywhere in a community (e.g. nursing homes, Starbucks workers, grocery store cashiers, people on the police force, health care workers, etc.).
Anonymous
08/21/2020 14:20
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:In neighboring Michigan, 70 of the 75 Covid-19 deaths last week were in long-term care facilities. This is not a college campus issue.
You think the infections in long-term care facilities were spontaneous?
Anonymous
08/21/2020 14:13
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
I also think that a condition of college kids going back to campus should be that they are responsible for cleaning their own dorms, even the bathrooms. The RA's could be professionally trained and responsible for overseeing student cleaning crews. This seems fair to me and would protect the professional cleaning staff. The cafeteria workers are not at risk as much because food can be grab and go.
Anonymous
08/21/2020 14:09
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any kids in the hospital? I'd assume the lack of hysteric articles about overrun hospitals in South Bend means this is a big nothingburger.
BINGO!! Report on the hospitalizations and deaths- not cases!
Their cases are doubling every two days. At the rate they are going, they will have over 2000 positives a week from now. You ok with that?
Hysteria!!!!! Let us know when a South Bend, Indiana hospital has more than 5 college kids with Corona.
It’s not hysteria. If 2000 kids test positive, and they each had just one roommate, that’s 2000 more kids who have to quarantine for two weeks and and can’t go to class. But there is no way ND can contract trace 2000 people. So those 2000 infected people come into contact with healthcare workers, custodians, Uber drivers, cafeteria workers, pharmacy clerks, and lots of other unsuspecting students. How do you think this virus spreads? How do you think 170000 people have died? 2000 becomes 4000 becomes 8000 and some of those people are going to get very sick, and some will die. The fact you can’t understand this basic truth is so unbelievable. This is what we know will happen because we are seeing it playing out before our eyes in real time.
Classes are now online, so anyone in quarantine can continue to attend classes. I honestly recommend that classes continue online for the rest of the semester. I also recommend that the university start giving strong consequences for large parties, as Purdue has done.
Anonymous
08/21/2020 13:53
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
In neighboring Michigan, 70 of the 75 Covid-19 deaths last week were in long-term care facilities. This is not a college campus issue.
Anonymous
08/21/2020 13:47
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please tell us how many college students, professors and faculty are in the hospitals. Not 80+ year old retirement home residents.
Right, who cares who Notre Dame ends up killing with their recklessness as long as it’s not a student or faculty.
Corona was in South Bend before kids went back to school. Only in your unhinged hallucinations are you able to trace nursing home deaths to partying college kids. Give it a rest, sweetie.
Anonymous
08/21/2020 12:30
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please tell us how many college students, professors and faculty are in the hospitals. Not 80+ year old retirement home residents.
Right, who cares who Notre Dame ends up killing with their recklessness as long as it’s not a student or faculty.
Well if they keep kids on campus, they aren’t exactly going to be infecting hospice and nursing home patients. Honestly, keeping all these young people in college campuses is probably the safest place for them!
It may well be the safest place for them, but that’s not the whole picture. I think people don’t realize just how many other people it takes to support all those students on campus. Faculty members are only a small part of it. Every university also employs food service workers, custodial staff, groundskeepers, residence hall staff, administrative staff, technical support staff, etc. Who do you think is coordinating and delivering food to all these quarantined students? (Or not, as the case may be!) Cleaning their rooms? Keeping their WiFi working? Many of these people are high risk themselves. Many have elderly parents or immune-compromised spouses, who live with them or in nursing homes. Universities are major employers and they are responsible for the well-being of a lot of people, not just students. The higher the positivity rate on campus, the more risk those employees and their families take on. That’s just the truth. We can argue about whether it’s fair to put that risk on them but we can’t just ignore it.
Anonymous
08/21/2020 12:22
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please tell us how many college students, professors and faculty are in the hospitals. Not 80+ year old retirement home residents.
Right, who cares who Notre Dame ends up killing with their recklessness as long as it’s not a student or faculty.
Well if they keep kids on campus, they aren’t exactly going to be infecting hospice and nursing home patients. Honestly, keeping all these young people in college campuses is probably the safest place for them!
And none of the students, professors, faculty, janitors, cafeteria workers, librarians, tech support, groundskeepers etc. have or have any household contacts with people that have pre-existing conditions? The point is that when you bring together a densely populated group that tends asymptomatic/mild, socializes a lot, they are going to generate exponential growth of cases that touch many, many other people's lives. College students living at home connect with fewer people and impact fewer people so less chance for spread.
In addition, this isn't just nursing home outbreaks. I look at the dashboard of my county of Fairfax alone and the deaths are 22 in the 18-49 age group, 63 in the 50-64, and 468 in the 65+. So while deaths are concentrated in the older ages, they are spread out. And the hospitalizations are even more spread across the ages, (though I have to dig around to find that data).
Anonymous
08/21/2020 10:53
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:Please tell us how many college students, professors and faculty are in the hospitals. Not 80+ year old retirement home residents.
You are a painful embarrassment to the country.
Anonymous
08/21/2020 10:52
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please tell us how many college students, professors and faculty are in the hospitals. Not 80+ year old retirement home residents.
Right, who cares who Notre Dame ends up killing with their recklessness as long as it’s not a student or faculty.
Well if they keep kids on campus, they aren’t exactly going to be infecting hospice and nursing home patients. Honestly, keeping all these young people in college campuses is probably the safest place for them!
Anonymous
08/21/2020 10:49
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:Please tell us how many college students, professors and faculty are in the hospitals. Not 80+ year old retirement home residents.
So everyone over 80 is expendable? Or is it 70? 60? How about if they're overweight? Have asthma? Diabetes?
This is beginning to sound like the concept of "Life unworthy of life" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_unworthy_of_life
Anonymous
08/21/2020 10:46
Subject: Is Notre Dame screwing up?
Anonymous wrote:Please tell us how many college students, professors and faculty are in the hospitals. Not 80+ year old retirement home residents.
Right, who cares who Notre Dame ends up killing with their recklessness as long as it’s not a student or faculty.