Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 07:50     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you ever wonder how history repeats? A virus could reset and have us repeat history again. I can see very easily how kids, a lot of kids, can slump through the cracks and end up as child laborers. I can see a huge underclass forming and I can see those that have the means and those kids who are disciplined and resource rich ending up as decision makers in the future. A huge shift is occurring and it is ugly. A lot of families will be out of work, split up, struggling to feed themselves and survive. But, there will be some who hang on and stay in the middle while some still rise and join a ruling class. But, I mostly see child labor to increase money in households (under the table), serving class and ruling class.

Keep toking


It's extreme but yes, the trends of our country is that the poor are getting much poorer, the rich are getting much richer, and the middle class - what's left of it - is grateful for any scraps they can get. The gig economy further amplifies this. And part of this is that there's so much contempt for poor and working class people in this country, politically and socially.

Just look at the whole boundary analysis in MoCo. At the end of the day, it's all about middle and upper class middle income people who are pissed off at the prospect that there might be more poor kids in their schools. The very kids they believe they paid to get away from. Do you really believe that anyone of these of these "anti-poor" people cares if poor kids work? No, of course not. They'll say something like, "well, that's what you get for having kids you can't afford."

While I don't know about child labor starting back up tomorrow, in the longer term it's absolutely conceivable.


Yes, the rich are getting richer, but no, the poor aren't getting poorer. Widening wealth inequality does not equal the poor getting poorer. Everyone's standard of living in this country continues to rise by every measure of consumption. If there are very poor people in the U.S. who lack the basics, it is because they were recently peasants in a third world country, and even they consider themselves better off. Why do you continually distort the reality of poverty in the U.S.? Does it suck to be "relatively" poor? Sure, but it is not what you describe. The kids are not headed to the coal mines.


Yes, absolutely, the poor are getting poorer in the US. Please try and keep up before you finger wag nonsense.
Not a new phenomenon either. Not sure why coal mines are your barometer for poverty, but ok.

https://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/are-poor-getting-poorer-tale-two-https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.houstonchronicle.com/business/columnists/tomlinson/amp/Rich-get-richer-and-poor-get-poorer-in-this-14471084.php



Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 07:43     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This whole fiasco is like a situation where we might have had three straight months of daily two inch snowfalls. All the snowflakes would be fine with 90 straight days of no school due to snowfall.

Switch the situation to the coronavirus. No MCPD student has died or been seriously sick due to the pandemic. None. I keep hearing that children could carry it home and infect mom, dad, or grandma. Has there been any cases where that actually happened?

I suspect that this whole thing has been a huge “scared of my shadow” deal and had it not been for NYC and nursing homes we wouldn’t have missed a day of school.


So far three parents at my child’s school have died.


But that was not because school was open.


Exactly-that's terrible but unrelated to schools being open. 3 people died, who happened to be parents. Absolutely no connection to having it spread at schools since they weren't even open.

100 teachers in New York City died after schools stayed open for weeks while COVID spread. You are literally crazy if you think this is no big deal. You see 100,000 deaths and all you can think about is how this has inconvenienced you? You need psychological help.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 07:29     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
MCPS reported 70% participation with distance learning. The quality of education should improve when they prepare for the fall, and they are working on it now.

My children and their friends are learning very well with distance learning.

Get with the program, OP.


I wonder where they are getting the 70% from. Can’t be the zoom check-ins. Since they announced the grading policy only single digits have been attending.


Source, please? I don’t believe this is true, but if it is, then those schools need to step up their outreach to students and families. Why would parents and guardians tolerate this? School and learning involves much more than grades and what happens inside of brick and mortar buildings. So many industries have evolved over the last 100 years...it’s unfortunate that we can’t have the same expectations of innovation for learning and teaching.


Teachers, admin, and counselors are spending hours every day notifying families that their children aren’t attending. One parent asked me how many more assignments her son needed to turn in to “get a pass and be done.” That was before Memorial Day.


?? I did not think MCPS teachers were allowed to require class attendance at all. My child was doing her work but only attending classes that she found helpful. No one ever contacted us.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 07:23     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This whole fiasco is like a situation where we might have had three straight months of daily two inch snowfalls. All the snowflakes would be fine with 90 straight days of no school due to snowfall.

Switch the situation to the coronavirus. No MCPD student has died or been seriously sick due to the pandemic. None. I keep hearing that children could carry it home and infect mom, dad, or grandma. Has there been any cases where that actually happened?

I suspect that this whole thing has been a huge “scared of my shadow” deal and had it not been for NYC and nursing homes we wouldn’t have missed a day of school.


So far three parents at my child’s school have died.


Two of the grandparents of my students have died. But no parents yet.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 07:11     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This whole fiasco is like a situation where we might have had three straight months of daily two inch snowfalls. All the snowflakes would be fine with 90 straight days of no school due to snowfall.

Switch the situation to the coronavirus. No MCPD student has died or been seriously sick due to the pandemic. None. I keep hearing that children could carry it home and infect mom, dad, or grandma. Has there been any cases where that actually happened?

I suspect that this whole thing has been a huge “scared of my shadow” deal and had it not been for NYC and nursing homes we wouldn’t have missed a day of school.


So far three parents at my child’s school have died.


But that was not because school was open.


Exactly-that's terrible but unrelated to schools being open. 3 people died, who happened to be parents. Absolutely no connection to having it spread at schools since they weren't even open.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 07:10     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This whole fiasco is like a situation where we might have had three straight months of daily two inch snowfalls. All the snowflakes would be fine with 90 straight days of no school due to snowfall.

Switch the situation to the coronavirus. No MCPD student has died or been seriously sick due to the pandemic. None. I keep hearing that children could carry it home and infect mom, dad, or grandma. Has there been any cases where that actually happened?

I suspect that this whole thing has been a huge “scared of my shadow” deal and had it not been for NYC and nursing homes we wouldn’t have missed a day of school.


So far three parents at my child’s school have died.


But that was not because school was open.


Right and does “3 parents at my kid’s school have died” who shares that regularly, know how those parents got COVID? Was it from their kids?
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 07:06     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This whole fiasco is like a situation where we might have had three straight months of daily two inch snowfalls. All the snowflakes would be fine with 90 straight days of no school due to snowfall.

Switch the situation to the coronavirus. No MCPD student has died or been seriously sick due to the pandemic. None. I keep hearing that children could carry it home and infect mom, dad, or grandma. Has there been any cases where that actually happened?

I suspect that this whole thing has been a huge “scared of my shadow” deal and had it not been for NYC and nursing homes we wouldn’t have missed a day of school.


So far three parents at my child’s school have died.


But that was not because school was open.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 07:04     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you ever wonder how history repeats? A virus could reset and have us repeat history again. I can see very easily how kids, a lot of kids, can slump through the cracks and end up as child laborers. I can see a huge underclass forming and I can see those that have the means and those kids who are disciplined and resource rich ending up as decision makers in the future. A huge shift is occurring and it is ugly. A lot of families will be out of work, split up, struggling to feed themselves and survive. But, there will be some who hang on and stay in the middle while some still rise and join a ruling class. But, I mostly see child labor to increase money in households (under the table), serving class and ruling class.

Keep toking


It's extreme but yes, the trends of our country is that the poor are getting much poorer, the rich are getting much richer, and the middle class - what's left of it - is grateful for any scraps they can get. The gig economy further amplifies this. And part of this is that there's so much contempt for poor and working class people in this country, politically and socially.

Just look at the whole boundary analysis in MoCo. At the end of the day, it's all about middle and upper class middle income people who are pissed off at the prospect that there might be more poor kids in their schools. The very kids they believe they paid to get away from. Do you really believe that anyone of these of these "anti-poor" people cares if poor kids work? No, of course not. They'll say something like, "well, that's what you get for having kids you can't afford."

While I don't know about child labor starting back up tomorrow, in the longer term it's absolutely conceivable.


Yes, the rich are getting richer, but no, the poor aren't getting poorer. Widening wealth inequality does not equal the poor getting poorer. Everyone's standard of living in this country continues to rise by every measure of consumption. If there are very poor people in the U.S. who lack the basics, it is because they were recently peasants in a third world country, and even they consider themselves better off. Why do you continually distort the reality of poverty in the U.S.? Does it suck to be "relatively" poor? Sure, but it is not what you describe. The kids are not headed to the coal mines.


What??? They had to close a highway in VT to accommodate an a 5 mile long line of cars to get food. Not that it matters but I suspect most of those Vermonters are not former 3rd world peasants.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 06:59     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
MCPS reported 70% participation with distance learning. The quality of education should improve when they prepare for the fall, and they are working on it now.

My children and their friends are learning very well with distance learning.

Get with the program, OP.


I wonder where they are getting the 70% from. Can’t be the zoom check-ins. Since they announced the grading policy only single digits have been attending.


Source, please? I don’t believe this is true, but if it is, then those schools need to step up their outreach to students and families. Why would parents and guardians tolerate this? School and learning involves much more than grades and what happens inside of brick and mortar buildings. So many industries have evolved over the last 100 years...it’s unfortunate that we can’t have the same expectations of innovation for learning and teaching.


Teachers, admin, and counselors are spending hours every day notifying families that their children aren’t attending. One parent asked me how many more assignments her son needed to turn in to “get a pass and be done.” That was before Memorial Day.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2020 00:51     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you ever wonder how history repeats? A virus could reset and have us repeat history again. I can see very easily how kids, a lot of kids, can slump through the cracks and end up as child laborers. I can see a huge underclass forming and I can see those that have the means and those kids who are disciplined and resource rich ending up as decision makers in the future. A huge shift is occurring and it is ugly. A lot of families will be out of work, split up, struggling to feed themselves and survive. But, there will be some who hang on and stay in the middle while some still rise and join a ruling class. But, I mostly see child labor to increase money in households (under the table), serving class and ruling class.

Keep toking


It's extreme but yes, the trends of our country is that the poor are getting much poorer, the rich are getting much richer, and the middle class - what's left of it - is grateful for any scraps they can get. The gig economy further amplifies this. And part of this is that there's so much contempt for poor and working class people in this country, politically and socially.

Just look at the whole boundary analysis in MoCo. At the end of the day, it's all about middle and upper class middle income people who are pissed off at the prospect that there might be more poor kids in their schools. The very kids they believe they paid to get away from. Do you really believe that anyone of these of these "anti-poor" people cares if poor kids work? No, of course not. They'll say something like, "well, that's what you get for having kids you can't afford."

While I don't know about child labor starting back up tomorrow, in the longer term it's absolutely conceivable.


Yes, the rich are getting richer, but no, the poor aren't getting poorer. Widening wealth inequality does not equal the poor getting poorer. Everyone's standard of living in this country continues to rise by every measure of consumption. If there are very poor people in the U.S. who lack the basics, it is because they were recently peasants in a third world country, and even they consider themselves better off. Why do you continually distort the reality of poverty in the U.S.? Does it suck to be "relatively" poor? Sure, but it is not what you describe. The kids are not headed to the coal mines.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 23:56     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This whole fiasco is like a situation where we might have had three straight months of daily two inch snowfalls. All the snowflakes would be fine with 90 straight days of no school due to snowfall.

Switch the situation to the coronavirus. No MCPD student has died or been seriously sick due to the pandemic. None.I keep hearing that children could carry it home and infect mom, dad, or grandma. Has there been any cases where that actually happened?

I suspect that this whole thing has been a huge “scared of my shadow” deal and had it not been for NYC and nursing homes we wouldn’t have missed a day of school.


I know, right? It's like when they made people evacuate for Hurricane Andrew so they wouldn't be killed, and only 44 people died, so why did they make people evacuate if so few people were going to die? They could have just stayed home. Pointless fear-mongering. My office building caught fire and they made us all go outside, and no one got smoke inhalation, so why did we have to go outside?

The mitigation efforts being successful prove that they were unnecessary! Because that's how cause and effect work.


Really, the build is on fire and you question having to evacuate?


Please check the batteries in your sarcasm detector.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 23:41     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This whole fiasco is like a situation where we might have had three straight months of daily two inch snowfalls. All the snowflakes would be fine with 90 straight days of no school due to snowfall.

Switch the situation to the coronavirus. No MCPD student has died or been seriously sick due to the pandemic. None.I keep hearing that children could carry it home and infect mom, dad, or grandma. Has there been any cases where that actually happened?

I suspect that this whole thing has been a huge “scared of my shadow” deal and had it not been for NYC and nursing homes we wouldn’t have missed a day of school.


I know, right? It's like when they made people evacuate for Hurricane Andrew so they wouldn't be killed, and only 44 people died, so why did they make people evacuate if so few people were going to die? They could have just stayed home. Pointless fear-mongering. My office building caught fire and they made us all go outside, and no one got smoke inhalation, so why did we have to go outside?

The mitigation efforts being successful prove that they were unnecessary! Because that's how cause and effect work.


Really, the build is on fire and you question having to evacuate?
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 23:36     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021
Anonymous wrote:This whole fiasco is like a situation where we might have had three straight months of daily two inch snowfalls. All the snowflakes would be fine with 90 straight days of no school due to snowfall.

Switch the situation to the coronavirus. No MCPD student has died or been seriously sick due to the pandemic. None. I keep hearing that children could carry it home and infect mom, dad, or grandma. Has there been any cases where that actually happened?

I suspect that this whole thing has been a huge “scared of my shadow” deal and had it not been for NYC and nursing homes we wouldn’t have missed a day of school.


So far three parents at my child’s school have died.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 23:35     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021
Anonymous wrote:This whole fiasco is like a situation where we might have had three straight months of daily two inch snowfalls. All the snowflakes would be fine with 90 straight days of no school due to snowfall.

Switch the situation to the coronavirus. No MCPD student has died or been seriously sick due to the pandemic. None.I keep hearing that children could carry it home and infect mom, dad, or grandma. Has there been any cases where that actually happened?

I suspect that this whole thing has been a huge “scared of my shadow” deal and had it not been for NYC and nursing homes we wouldn’t have missed a day of school.


I know, right? It's like when they made people evacuate for Hurricane Andrew so they wouldn't be killed, and only 44 people died, so why did they make people evacuate if so few people were going to die? They could have just stayed home. Pointless fear-mongering. My office building caught fire and they made us all go outside, and no one got smoke inhalation, so why did we have to go outside?

The mitigation efforts being successful prove that they were unnecessary! Because that's how cause and effect work.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2020 22:31     Subject: The prospect of kids not going back to school until 2021
This whole fiasco is like a situation where we might have had three straight months of daily two inch snowfalls. All the snowflakes would be fine with 90 straight days of no school due to snowfall.

Switch the situation to the coronavirus. No MCPD student has died or been seriously sick due to the pandemic. None. I keep hearing that children could carry it home and infect mom, dad, or grandma. Has there been any cases where that actually happened?

I suspect that this whole thing has been a huge “scared of my shadow” deal and had it not been for NYC and nursing homes we wouldn’t have missed a day of school.