Anonymous
Post 05/05/2020 09:58     Subject: Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.


I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.




Sadly I definitely agree with this.



Of course they are the privileged crowd! They either work from home or don’t need to work at all. They aren’t the ones waiting tables, cutting your hair, checking you in at the fitness studio.

They are the ones yelling at you for not wearing a mask outdoors on an isolated road.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2020 09:55     Subject: Re:Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!
Let’s face it. As usual, poor people in America get the shaft. My husband works in big tech. They are estimating only 30% of their global employees will be back in an office by October.
My wealthy SAHM friends all plan to continue to stay at home during the summer. All have cancelled vacation plans. All are either using delivery to get groceries or going at odd hours.
Who is really at risk? Poor people who work in crowded places that can’t be protected and who have crappy or no health care.
There will be people who take dumb risks because they’re either young and unlikely to get really sick (which is fine as long as they don’t pass it on...) or because they don’t believe the risks are real. And we we will see how that plays out.
But most of the wealthy and educated people will sit back in their cushy homes and watch and wait.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2020 09:55     Subject: Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.


I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.



People don't want to see society destroyed. That's not being selfish. It's not simply "I want to take my beach vacation," I mean sure you hear that, I say things like that too. But that's not the real reason I want to see things reopen. It is because I truly feel that the damage we are doing to the economy is way worse than the number of lives that would be lost otherwise.


The government is to blame for what happened to the economy. They could have implemented UBI, suspended mortgages and rents, provided free healthcare like the ENTIRE rest of the developed world did. The fact we live in a capitalist society that doesn’t value its workers and have a government that doesn’t care to actually help is why it’s so bad for us and why we have to throw in the towel before getting it under control the way other countries did. It’s nearly eradicated in Singapore and New Zealand. The US is just saying lol oh well



Are you seriously trying to claim that Singapore isn't a capitalist country? And these shutdowns are going to devastate economies around the world, capitalist or not.


I’m claiming Singapore’s response was one of a county in which human life is somewhat valued. Our country’s response revealed we do not value human life. Not one thing was done to try to ease the burden of lockdown so we could actually stay home and halt the virus, there’s still no mass testing that makes opening up safer. We will just accept there’s no testing, no vaccine, no government assistance to people and businesses to allow for a true lockdown, we will go back to regular life because there’s no other options and accept many will die. Other countries didn’t have that same fatalistic attitude. We did.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2020 09:53     Subject: Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.


I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.


Do you hear yourself? A compliant populace? We do not live in a communist state.


We live in a barely functional state with zero concern beyond ourselves. Our country was always going to fare worst with this virus. Even in this thread people think losing 3 million people is no big deal. The craziest part is some people still believe in American exceptionalism. We are a joke.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2020 09:43     Subject: Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!
Anonymous wrote:This may be a minor question, but why are gyms included in the list of places that are reopening? They seem like hotspots to spread the virus - people touching shared equipment, breathing out heavily. It is nice outdoors and people can just exercise there or in their homes. If people want to work with a personal trainer, they could arrange to do so in a park etc. with their own weights.

People in gyms are relatively in shape and healthy, so their immune systems are strong, so a virus as weak as COVID isn’t a big deal compared to old people in a eldercare home.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2020 09:40     Subject: Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!
This may be a minor question, but why are gyms included in the list of places that are reopening? They seem like hotspots to spread the virus - people touching shared equipment, breathing out heavily. It is nice outdoors and people can just exercise there or in their homes. If people want to work with a personal trainer, they could arrange to do so in a park etc. with their own weights.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2020 09:37     Subject: Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!
Anonymous wrote:As a nurse with INOVA who had been furloughed, this is true. Not only are hospitals not overwhelmed, they are DEAD. ER is dead, whole units are shut down.

I'm going to return to a DISASTER of people who have been forced to put off important medical care. What is going to be dangerous is the hours everyone is going to have to put in when Northam gets his head out of his ass.


Can you elaborate on what kind of disaster you envision?
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2020 09:37     Subject: Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.


I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.




Well, many people in this area, for example, routinely telework in any event. So there’s really no cost to their snarking out things like “you first.” But their position, from a morality standpoint, seems to be that so long as they oppose reopenings, they cannot be accused of hypocrisy.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2020 09:33     Subject: Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!
Getting tired of the doomsday mindset people have. If I say the virus is no big deal and I want to live my life, I’m called a Nazi.

Apparently, living my life in fear is the new norm and if you’re not scared, wearing gloves or a facemask, and I laugh at bogus terms like “social distancing” and “contact tracing”, something is wrong with ME. Not the other way around.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2020 08:31     Subject: Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!
Anonymous wrote:7 million people did not die of starvation during the Great Depression in the US.


Seriously. This claim was made by a Russian propagandist. We now have indignant Americans literally quoting from Russian propagandists. https://www.pravdareport.com/world/105255-famine/
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2020 08:26     Subject: Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!
7 million people did not die of starvation during the Great Depression in the US.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2020 08:21     Subject: Re:Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!
Anonymous wrote:
Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.


I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.



Liberty Doll
@TheLibertyDoll
It's ironic that the "check your privilege" crowd is largely also the "just stay home" crowd.

"Just stay home" is a pretty big dose of privilege.



I think that's ridiculous. No one I know is saying, "just stay home rather than go to your job at the grocery store or CVS." People are saying stay home instead of going to the pool/hosting block parties etc.


Not true they are saying stay home to all the people that aren’t allowed to work right now.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2020 08:14     Subject: Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.


I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.




Sadly I definitely agree with this.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2020 08:12     Subject: Re:Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!
Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.


I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.



Liberty Doll
@TheLibertyDoll
It's ironic that the "check your privilege" crowd is largely also the "just stay home" crowd.

"Just stay home" is a pretty big dose of privilege.



I think that's ridiculous. No one I know is saying, "just stay home rather than go to your job at the grocery store or CVS." People are saying stay home instead of going to the pool/hosting block parties etc.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2020 08:07     Subject: Virginia to open up in limited capacity next Friday!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Northam’s order seems like an attempt to consider both economic and medical reality. A phased approach is at least a plan, and we need a plan to assuage the next waves of armed protests.


I’ll say it again. Privileged white Americans are too selfish to sustain this. Our government is too corrupt to have put in measures that would have helped people bear it long term. The result is we half assed it for awhile and with summer coming Americans will just decide they’re done. Mass death will become a fixture of life that we accept so we can go to the pool. Northam understands that this is ending whether it’s time or not because we Americans are just too stupid and intolerant to keep doing it. So he’s enacting phases to at least impose some order rather than just let it be a free for all but I’m positive nobody thinks it’s actually a good idea. They just don’t have choices without government support and a compliant populace.