They are typical Trumpsters, a bunch of nazis.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Republicans found another woman to hate.

Shocking.

I guess she shouldn’t be doing hateful things then.

Ok, now go do Mike DeWine in Ohio (also issued lockdown orders), Montana, West Virginia, and Kansas.

All these states have stricter lockdowns than Michigan: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-state-by-state-guide-to-coronavirus-lockdowns-11584749351


Just admit: you hate women.

They are afraid of her.. that she might be the VP pick. If they were so sure of Trump and how he is a stable genius, they would not need to do this. But they are afraid because deep down, they know that most Americans despise Trump. Trump won MI by .3%. MI is a hotspot for covid, and they know that Trump managed this terribly. They have much to fear.

Are you kidding!?!

I WANT her to be the VP nominee!!! I WANT her telling the whole country that they can’t buy a pack of vegetable seeds or buy house paint or go fishing in a boat with a motor!

This is GOLD!!

Even though public sentiment is 2:1 about remaining at home rather than going back to work precipitously?

Those that want to stay home can do so. The world goes on without them

Sorry, this is a PUBLIC health crisis. Your actions affect my health. Whatever we do, we do it together.

Your actions also affect other's health and lives and livelihood. Yet you are comfortable taking that away from others.

So either we go broke or we die. Maybe both, if we open back up prematurely. But you don't care, you just want the old world back, deaths be damned, cause they're all just old people or people with pre-existing conditions.

Your rights end at the tip of your nose. You don't get to tell others what to do. What is prematurely? You don't know and they can't tell you. That's the whole point. Fear is a powerful means of control.

In other words, you just want your old life back, consequences be damned. Right?

My old life is the same as my new one. I work out of the house already. I'm missing nothing I did prior. What I don't want is the consequences for millions in this country that unemployment brings. I don't want the hunger, the suicides, the homicides.

I don't want that either, which is why I am happy we are giving enhanced unemployment benefits to those who lose their jobs.

Enhanced unemployment doesn’t pay all the bills. Enhanced unemployment doesn’t stop the rise in domestic abuse, substance abuse, depression and suicide that comes with being forced into seclusion. I imagine you probably have a nice house, people keeping you company and a secure job. Everyone is not as lucky.

Enhanced unemployment covers a mutlitude of evils. You are a lot less likely to commit suicide if you have money coming in than if you don't. If it doesn't cover all the bills, then we should increase it.

As for all those mental health problems, our country has a horrible system for handling mental health. All those problems have been at epidemic levels for years and we have done very little about it. I'm all for an immediate and massive expansion of mental health services to deal with all that, even in the middle of the coronavirus pandemic. But that won't happen. In the meantime, I'm not going to confuse a job with a mental health service.

And if we are going to go on about all these indirect effects, the overall crime rate is down and the accident rate is down.

I imagine your father didn't beat your mother and you never pointed a gun at your own head. Everyone is not so unlucky.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Republicans found another woman to hate.

Shocking.

I guess she shouldn’t be doing hateful things then.

Ok, now go do Mike DeWine in Ohio (also issued lockdown orders), Montana, West Virginia, and Kansas.

All these states have stricter lockdowns than Michigan: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-state-by-state-guide-to-coronavirus-lockdowns-11584749351


Just admit: you hate women.

They are afraid of her.. that she might be the VP pick. If they were so sure of Trump and how he is a stable genius, they would not need to do this. But they are afraid because deep down, they know that most Americans despise Trump. Trump won MI by .3%. MI is a hotspot for covid, and they know that Trump managed this terribly. They have much to fear.

Are you kidding!?!

I WANT her to be the VP nominee!!! I WANT her telling the whole country that they can’t buy a pack of vegetable seeds or buy house paint or go fishing in a boat with a motor!

This is GOLD!!

Even though public sentiment is 2:1 about remaining at home rather than going back to work precipitously?

Those that want to stay home can do so. The world goes on without them

Sorry, this is a PUBLIC health crisis. Your actions affect my health. Whatever we do, we do it together.

Your actions also affect other's health and lives and livelihood. Yet you are comfortable taking that away from others.

So either we go broke or we die. Maybe both, if we open back up prematurely. But you don't care, you just want the old world back, deaths be damned, cause they're all just old people or people with pre-existing conditions.

Your rights end at the tip of your nose. You don't get to tell others what to do. What is prematurely? You don't know and they can't tell you. That's the whole point. Fear is a powerful means of control.

In other words, you just want your old life back, consequences be damned. Right?

My old life is the same as my new one. I work out of the house already. I'm missing nothing I did prior. What I don't want is the consequences for millions in this country that unemployment brings. I don't want the hunger, the suicides, the homicides.

I don't want that either, which is why I am happy we are giving enhanced unemployment benefits to those who lose their jobs.

Enhanced unemployment doesn’t pay all the bills. Enhanced unemployment doesn’t stop the rise in domestic abuse, substance abuse, depression and suicide that comes with being forced into seclusion. I imagine you probably have a nice house, people keeping you company and a secure job. Everyone is not as lucky.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Republicans found another woman to hate.

Shocking.

I guess she shouldn’t be doing hateful things then.

Ok, now go do Mike DeWine in Ohio (also issued lockdown orders), Montana, West Virginia, and Kansas.

All these states have stricter lockdowns than Michigan: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-state-by-state-guide-to-coronavirus-lockdowns-11584749351


Just admit: you hate women.

They are afraid of her.. that she might be the VP pick. If they were so sure of Trump and how he is a stable genius, they would not need to do this. But they are afraid because deep down, they know that most Americans despise Trump. Trump won MI by .3%. MI is a hotspot for covid, and they know that Trump managed this terribly. They have much to fear.

Are you kidding!?!

I WANT her to be the VP nominee!!! I WANT her telling the whole country that they can’t buy a pack of vegetable seeds or buy house paint or go fishing in a boat with a motor!

This is GOLD!!

Even though public sentiment is 2:1 about remaining at home rather than going back to work precipitously?

Those that want to stay home can do so. The world goes on without them

Sorry, this is a PUBLIC health crisis. Your actions affect my health. Whatever we do, we do it together.

Your actions also affect other's health and lives and livelihood. Yet you are comfortable taking that away from others.

So either we go broke or we die. Maybe both, if we open back up prematurely. But you don't care, you just want the old world back, deaths be damned, cause they're all just old people or people with pre-existing conditions.

Your rights end at the tip of your nose. You don't get to tell others what to do. What is prematurely? You don't know and they can't tell you. That's the whole point. Fear is a powerful means of control.

In other words, you just want your old life back, consequences be damned. Right?

My old life is the same as my new one. I work out of the house already. I'm missing nothing I did prior. What I don't want is the consequences for millions in this country that unemployment brings. I don't want the hunger, the suicides, the homicides.

I don't want that either, which is why I am happy we are giving enhanced unemployment benefits to those who lose their jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Republicans found another woman to hate.

Shocking.

I guess she shouldn’t be doing hateful things then.

Ok, now go do Mike DeWine in Ohio (also issued lockdown orders), Montana, West Virginia, and Kansas.

All these states have stricter lockdowns than Michigan: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-state-by-state-guide-to-coronavirus-lockdowns-11584749351


Just admit: you hate women.

They are afraid of her.. that she might be the VP pick. If they were so sure of Trump and how he is a stable genius, they would not need to do this. But they are afraid because deep down, they know that most Americans despise Trump. Trump won MI by .3%. MI is a hotspot for covid, and they know that Trump managed this terribly. They have much to fear.

Are you kidding!?!

I WANT her to be the VP nominee!!! I WANT her telling the whole country that they can’t buy a pack of vegetable seeds or buy house paint or go fishing in a boat with a motor!

This is GOLD!!

Even though public sentiment is 2:1 about remaining at home rather than going back to work precipitously?

Those that want to stay home can do so. The world goes on without them

Sorry, this is a PUBLIC health crisis. Your actions affect my health. Whatever we do, we do it together.

Your actions also affect other's health and lives and livelihood. Yet you are comfortable taking that away from others.

So either we go broke or we die. Maybe both, if we open back up prematurely. But you don't care, you just want the old world back, deaths be damned, cause they're all just old people or people with pre-existing conditions.

Your rights end at the tip of your nose. You don't get to tell others what to do. What is prematurely? You don't know and they can't tell you. That's the whole point. Fear is a powerful means of control.

In other words, you just want your old life back, consequences be damned. Right?

My old life is the same as my new one. I work out of the house already. I'm missing nothing I did prior. What I don't want is the consequences for millions in this country that unemployment brings. I don't want the hunger, the suicides, the homicides.

I don't want that either, which is why I am happy we are giving enhanced unemployment benefits to those who lose their jobs.

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We have over 5 MILLION people on unemployment. They are using reality.

What if those medical experts are wrong? Their models sure have been.

I'm all for letting the governors of the states to decide. They then get to own the repercussions in their own states. Works for me.

The models weren't wrong. Social distancing is working.

why doesn’t NYC make this obvious to people?

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We have over 5 MILLION people on unemployment. They are using reality.

What if those medical experts are wrong? Their models sure have been.

I'm all for letting the governors of the states to decide. They then get to own the repercussions in their own states. Works for me.

The models weren't wrong. Social distancing is working.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Republicans found another woman to hate.

Shocking.

I guess she shouldn’t be doing hateful things then.

Ok, now go do Mike DeWine in Ohio (also issued lockdown orders), Montana, West Virginia, and Kansas.

All these states have stricter lockdowns than Michigan: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-state-by-state-guide-to-coronavirus-lockdowns-11584749351


Just admit: you hate women.

They are afraid of her.. that she might be the VP pick. If they were so sure of Trump and how he is a stable genius, they would not need to do this. But they are afraid because deep down, they know that most Americans despise Trump. Trump won MI by .3%. MI is a hotspot for covid, and they know that Trump managed this terribly. They have much to fear.

Are you kidding!?!

I WANT her to be the VP nominee!!! I WANT her telling the whole country that they can’t buy a pack of vegetable seeds or buy house paint or go fishing in a boat with a motor!

This is GOLD!!

Even though public sentiment is 2:1 about remaining at home rather than going back to work precipitously?

Those that want to stay home can do so. The world goes on without them

Sorry, this is a PUBLIC health crisis. Your actions affect my health. Whatever we do, we do it together.

Your actions also affect other's health and lives and livelihood. Yet you are comfortable taking that away from others.

No I am not comfortable doing that. Every decision involves a tradeoff. We can have a discussion about what is worth what, but there is no one right answer. There never will be. Right now, I think it is best we pay people not to work. So take your check and watch Tiger King.

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Two weeks keeps turning into another two weeks. Know why? Because if they said two months, they would have to justify why. It's not 2% mortality, btw. It's looking more like POINT 2.5 to POINT 3%. Which is why all of a sudden the way they count deaths is different.

COVID 19 is going to be the #1 cause of death in the US this week. We are on track for it. Usually it's heart disease.

And heart disease deaths have dropped to almost nothing. What does that tell you?

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Reclassification by CDC. Since you all revere CNN, here you go:


(CNN)The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is now counting "probable" cases of coronavirus among its tabulations, according to the agency's website.
The inclusion of such cases will add thousands to the total number of patients and deaths by including people who didn't have a positive test but showed signs of having the virus.
It comes after the Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists suggested the CDC and state health departments add probable cases.

Previously, the CDC was only counting cases that had been confirmed by them or cases where the agency had yet to confirm a test done by a local or private entity.

That doesn't say or even imply that heart disease deaths have dropped to "almost nothing."

They haven't. They are being reclassified to Covid deaths...

That's because they probably were Covid deaths. Which was written on their death certificates or case files, but not reported to CDC.

Probably? I deal in fact.

Then the fact is, the attending doctor determines cause of death and those doctors said it was Covid. The end.

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Anonymous wrote:80% of the virus is in and immediately around Detroit; Wayne, Oakland, Macomb counties. 3 counties out of 83. And many of the remaining 20% are people who work or have main residences in those three counties (and fled to other parts of the state to escape the SE Michigan hot spot).

And?

And you are destroying lives to protect Detroit.

Of course it hits urban areas first. Then who comes next genius? Are non-detroit residents immune or something? Don’t you understand that a virus will spread?

Using your logic we never would have taken any action in the USA four weeks ago since it was worse in europe at that exact moment in time. Waiting until the worst happens before acting is the best way to kill thousands of more people.

We've been hearing the "this area first' argument for weeks. We are getting data in from other countries that show the death rate is much lower than 1%. Seems there are a lot of asymptomatic people

Depends a lot on what data you look at. And then it depends on what you think is an "acceptable" death rate.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Republicans found another woman to hate.

Shocking.

I guess she shouldn’t be doing hateful things then.

Ok, now go do Mike DeWine in Ohio (also issued lockdown orders), Montana, West Virginia, and Kansas.

All these states have stricter lockdowns than Michigan: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-state-by-state-guide-to-coronavirus-lockdowns-11584749351


Just admit: you hate women.

They are afraid of her.. that she might be the VP pick. If they were so sure of Trump and how he is a stable genius, they would not need to do this. But they are afraid because deep down, they know that most Americans despise Trump. Trump won MI by .3%. MI is a hotspot for covid, and they know that Trump managed this terribly. They have much to fear.

Are you kidding!?!

I WANT her to be the VP nominee!!! I WANT her telling the whole country that they can’t buy a pack of vegetable seeds or buy house paint or go fishing in a boat with a motor!

This is GOLD!!

Even though public sentiment is 2:1 about remaining at home rather than going back to work precipitously?

Those that want to stay home can do so. The world goes on without them

Sorry, this is a PUBLIC health crisis. Your actions affect my health. Whatever we do, we do it together.

Your actions also affect other's health and lives and livelihood. Yet you are comfortable taking that away from others.

So either we go broke or we die. Maybe both, if we open back up prematurely. But you don't care, you just want the old world back, deaths be damned, cause they're all just old people or people with pre-existing conditions.

Your rights end at the tip of your nose. You don't get to tell others what to do. What is prematurely? You don't know and they can't tell you. That's the whole point. Fear is a powerful means of control.

In other words, you just want your old life back, consequences be damned. Right?

My old life is the same as my new one. I work out of the house already. I'm missing nothing I did prior. What I don't want is the consequences for millions in this country that unemployment brings. I don't want the hunger, the suicides, the homicides.

I wish Trump and GOP Senate leadership shared your concerns.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Republicans found another woman to hate.

Shocking.

I guess she shouldn’t be doing hateful things then.

Ok, now go do Mike DeWine in Ohio (also issued lockdown orders), Montana, West Virginia, and Kansas.

All these states have stricter lockdowns than Michigan: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-state-by-state-guide-to-coronavirus-lockdowns-11584749351


Just admit: you hate women.

They are afraid of her.. that she might be the VP pick. If they were so sure of Trump and how he is a stable genius, they would not need to do this. But they are afraid because deep down, they know that most Americans despise Trump. Trump won MI by .3%. MI is a hotspot for covid, and they know that Trump managed this terribly. They have much to fear.

Are you kidding!?!

I WANT her to be the VP nominee!!! I WANT her telling the whole country that they can’t buy a pack of vegetable seeds or buy house paint or go fishing in a boat with a motor!

This is GOLD!!

Even though public sentiment is 2:1 about remaining at home rather than going back to work precipitously?

Those that want to stay home can do so. The world goes on without them

Sorry, this is a PUBLIC health crisis. Your actions affect my health. Whatever we do, we do it together.

Your actions also affect other's health and lives and livelihood. Yet you are comfortable taking that away from others.

So either we go broke or we die. Maybe both, if we open back up prematurely. But you don't care, you just want the old world back, deaths be damned, cause they're all just old people or people with pre-existing conditions.

Your rights end at the tip of your nose. You don't get to tell others what to do. What is prematurely? You don't know and they can't tell you. That's the whole point. Fear is a powerful means of control.

While that's a nice thought, but we tell each other what to do all the time. There has never been a human society that has not controlled people to at least some extent.

You are right that fear is a powerful means of control. That's how people are. Deal with it.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Republicans found another woman to hate.

Shocking.

I guess she shouldn’t be doing hateful things then.

Ok, now go do Mike DeWine in Ohio (also issued lockdown orders), Montana, West Virginia, and Kansas.

All these states have stricter lockdowns than Michigan: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-state-by-state-guide-to-coronavirus-lockdowns-11584749351


Just admit: you hate women.

They are afraid of her.. that she might be the VP pick. If they were so sure of Trump and how he is a stable genius, they would not need to do this. But they are afraid because deep down, they know that most Americans despise Trump. Trump won MI by .3%. MI is a hotspot for covid, and they know that Trump managed this terribly. They have much to fear.

Are you kidding!?!

I WANT her to be the VP nominee!!! I WANT her telling the whole country that they can’t buy a pack of vegetable seeds or buy house paint or go fishing in a boat with a motor!

This is GOLD!!

Even though public sentiment is 2:1 about remaining at home rather than going back to work precipitously?

Those that want to stay home can do so. The world goes on without them

Sorry, this is a PUBLIC health crisis. Your actions affect my health. Whatever we do, we do it together.

Your actions also affect other's health and lives and livelihood. Yet you are comfortable taking that away from others.

So either we go broke or we die. Maybe both, if we open back up prematurely. But you don't care, you just want the old world back, deaths be damned, cause they're all just old people or people with pre-existing conditions.

Your rights end at the tip of your nose. You don't get to tell others what to do. What is prematurely? You don't know and they can't tell you. That's the whole point. Fear is a powerful means of control.

Isn’t trump and the GOP using fear of economic hardship as a means of controlling/forcing people back to work?

What is or is not “premature” is determined by medical experts NOT you or I. Those experts disagree with you. Why should your personal opinion be used as any sort of benchmark? Who are you to tell others what to do?

We have over 5 MILLION people on unemployment. They are using reality.

What if those medical experts are wrong? Their models sure have been.

I'm all for letting the governors of the states to decide. They then get to own the repercussions in their own states. Works for me.

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Anonymous wrote:80% of the virus is in and immediately around Detroit; Wayne, Oakland, Macomb counties. 3 counties out of 83. And many of the remaining 20% are people who work or have main residences in those three counties (and fled to other parts of the state to escape the SE Michigan hot spot).

And?

And you are destroying lives to protect Detroit.

Of course it hits urban areas first. Then who comes next genius? Are non-detroit residents immune or something? Don’t you understand that a virus will spread?

Using your logic we never would have taken any action in the USA four weeks ago since it was worse in europe at that exact moment in time. Waiting until the worst happens before acting is the best way to kill thousands of more people.

We've been hearing the "this area first' argument for weeks. We are getting data in from other countries that show the death rate is much lower than 1%. Seems there are a lot of asymptomatic people

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Republicans found another woman to hate.

Shocking.

I guess she shouldn’t be doing hateful things then.

Ok, now go do Mike DeWine in Ohio (also issued lockdown orders), Montana, West Virginia, and Kansas.

All these states have stricter lockdowns than Michigan: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-state-by-state-guide-to-coronavirus-lockdowns-11584749351


Just admit: you hate women.

They are afraid of her.. that she might be the VP pick. If they were so sure of Trump and how he is a stable genius, they would not need to do this. But they are afraid because deep down, they know that most Americans despise Trump. Trump won MI by .3%. MI is a hotspot for covid, and they know that Trump managed this terribly. They have much to fear.

Are you kidding!?!

I WANT her to be the VP nominee!!! I WANT her telling the whole country that they can’t buy a pack of vegetable seeds or buy house paint or go fishing in a boat with a motor!

This is GOLD!!

Even though public sentiment is 2:1 about remaining at home rather than going back to work precipitously?

Those that want to stay home can do so. The world goes on without them

Sorry, this is a PUBLIC health crisis. Your actions affect my health. Whatever we do, we do it together.

Your actions also affect other's health and lives and livelihood. Yet you are comfortable taking that away from others.

So either we go broke or we die. Maybe both, if we open back up prematurely. But you don't care, you just want the old world back, deaths be damned, cause they're all just old people or people with pre-existing conditions.

Your rights end at the tip of your nose. You don't get to tell others what to do. What is prematurely? You don't know and they can't tell you. That's the whole point. Fear is a powerful means of control.

Isn’t trump and the GOP using fear of economic hardship as a means of controlling/forcing people back to work?

What is or is not “premature” is determined by medical experts NOT you or I. Those experts disagree with you. Why should your personal opinion be used as any sort of benchmark? Who are you to tell others what to do?