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Anonymous wrote:United basic economy is the worst. We were on a 4 hour flight yesterday and the 6 foot tall guy next to me was miserable the entire time because the person in front of him reclined, jamming the seatback into his knees.

They're terrible. People fully recline and their heads are basically in your lap. I was literally counting the flecks of dandruff in some guy's hair.

Either you’re really tall to be able to see people’s heads or you’re just exaggerating. Because when we’re talking about plane seats, we’re not talking like a la-z-boy recliner. I go from sitting straight up to sitting just slightly tilted back.

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Anonymous wrote:They need to design planes understanding the concept of givers and takers. Some people are going to take, no matter what it costs anyone else. Unfortunately they're in the majority these days.

The airlines just need to decide how it's going to be, not let people "work it out themselves", because the takers will just take what they can in all cases, no matter what.

If they allow people to recline then they should need to advertise the distances as if someone if reclining in front of you and you're not (e.g. if eating or working). And then let us compare and choose preferred airlines that way.

The jerk-olas on this thread are proof of that!

Seriously. What a sad commentary on humanity.

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Anonymous wrote:United basic economy is the worst. We were on a 4 hour flight yesterday and the 6 foot tall guy next to me was miserable the entire time because the person in front of him reclined, jamming the seatback into his knees.

Sorry, that is just untrue. My husband is 6'3" and I am 6' tall. We fly United basic economy all the time. Our knees are not jammed unless we slouch down in our seats and stuff three books, a laptop, and our to-go sandwich in the seat pocket. Now with that said, I should add that we are both rather slender. I suppose if the man were obese...

Your husband must be pretty skinny. I think the PP was talking about a normal athletic (not fat) man. Muscle adds bulk to a frame too - it’s not just either skin and bones or obese.

Anonymous wrote:United basic economy is the worst. We were on a 4 hour flight yesterday and the 6 foot tall guy next to me was miserable the entire time because the person in front of him reclined, jamming the seatback into his knees.

Sorry, that is just untrue. My husband is 6'3" and I am 6' tall. We fly United basic economy all the time. Our knees are not jammed unless we slouch down in our seats and stuff three books, a laptop, and our to-go sandwich in the seat pocket. Now with that said, I should add that we are both rather slender. I suppose if the man were obese...

Anonymous wrote:They need to design planes understanding the concept of givers and takers. Some people are going to take, no matter what it costs anyone else. Unfortunately they're in the majority these days.

The airlines just need to decide how it's going to be, not let people "work it out themselves", because the takers will just take what they can in all cases, no matter what.

If they allow people to recline then they should need to advertise the distances as if someone if reclining in front of you and you're not (e.g. if eating or working). And then let us compare and choose preferred airlines that way.

The jerk-olas on this thread are proof of that!

Anonymous wrote:United basic economy is the worst. We were on a 4 hour flight yesterday and the 6 foot tall guy next to me was miserable the entire time because the person in front of him reclined, jamming the seatback into his knees.

They're terrible. People fully recline and their heads are basically in your lap. I was literally counting the flecks of dandruff in some guy's hair.

Anonymous wrote:United basic economy is the worst. We were on a 4 hour flight yesterday and the 6 foot tall guy next to me was miserable the entire time because the person in front of him reclined, jamming the seatback into his knees.

I think it’s right to ask the person to put the seat up a little under special circumstances like when it’s jamming your knees and you can’t sit comfortably ... as opposed to just being uniformly “anti-recline” ... Even the lady in the video put it up when the guy said he couldn’t eat his meal.

United basic economy is the worst. We were on a 4 hour flight yesterday and the 6 foot tall guy next to me was miserable the entire time because the person in front of him reclined, jamming the seatback into his knees.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never had an issue using a tray table when the person in front of me reclines. And if your LAPtop won’t fit, maybe, you know, put it on your LAP.

And I've never had an issue sitting up normally for the full length of a flight. If you do, maybe, you know, get a back pillow.

Or I could make use of the function of the seat that I paid for.

Or I could make use of the knee space I paid for. See how this works?

You didn't pay for the right to determine how the seat in front of you use is used. If you can't fit in your seat when the seat in front of you is being used in the way it was supposed to be used, then you need to buy a bigger seat.

See the comments from airline CEOs. And the fact that people have been kicked off flights for not agreeing to NOT recline their seats.

The way it's "supposed" to be is that people only recline if it is okay with the person behind them. Hint: if the person behind you is negatively affected by your reclining, it probably isn't.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never had an issue using a tray table when the person in front of me reclines. And if your LAPtop won’t fit, maybe, you know, put it on your LAP.

And I've never had an issue sitting up normally for the full length of a flight. If you do, maybe, you know, get a back pillow.

Or I could make use of the function of the seat that I paid for.

Or I could make use of the knee space I paid for. See how this works?

You didn't pay for the right to determine how the seat in front of you use is used. If you can't fit in your seat when the seat in front of you is being used in the way it was supposed to be used, then you need to buy a bigger seat.

See the comments from airline CEOs. And the fact that people have been kicked off flights for not agreeing to NOT recline their seats.

The way it's "supposed" to be is that people only recline if it is okay with the person behind them. Hint: if the person behind you is negatively affected by your reclining, it probably isn't.

Who has been kicked off?

They can take away the ability to recline completely. But they can’t tell one passenger they cannot recline but the rest of the plane can.

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Anonymous wrote:Both parties were inconsiderate here. There is no right answer.

No. The right answer is not to kick the person in front of you. When in doubt violence is always the wrong answer.

I am trying to figure out what planes you've been on that have enough leg room to kick LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:The tray table is still usable with the seat reclined.

Depends how far. Not if reclined all the way.

Lol! They barely recline I have eaten meals on international flights about 100 times and almost every single time, the seat in front of me was reclined. It seems some of these complainers just don’t have proper motor function?

Or are just really fat.

I have a cross country flight tomorrow morn and I’ll probably recline.

If the person in front of me reclines, that is fine.

Because I’m normal.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never had an issue using a tray table when the person in front of me reclines. And if your LAPtop won’t fit, maybe, you know, put it on your LAP.

And I've never had an issue sitting up normally for the full length of a flight. If you do, maybe, you know, get a back pillow.

Or I could make use of the function of the seat that I paid for.

Or I could make use of the knee space I paid for. See how this works?

You didn't pay for the right to determine how the seat in front of you use is used. If you can't fit in your seat when the seat in front of you is being used in the way it was supposed to be used, then you need to buy a bigger seat.

See the comments from airline CEOs. And the fact that people have been kicked off flights for not agreeing to NOT recline their seats.

The way it's "supposed" to be is that people only recline if it is okay with the person behind them. Hint: if the person behind you is negatively affected by your reclining, it probably isn't.

They need to design planes understanding the concept of givers and takers. Some people are going to take, no matter what it costs anyone else. Unfortunately they're in the majority these days.

The airlines just need to decide how it's going to be, not let people "work it out themselves", because the takers will just take what they can in all cases, no matter what.

If they allow people to recline then they should need to advertise the distances as if someone if reclining in front of you and you're not (e.g. if eating or working). And then let us compare and choose preferred airlines that way.