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Anonymous wrote:Why bashing on Olympiacos/Cougars, they are trying to put a good product together and grow. No one is saying they are "elite" but they have done well within their level of competition and it's good that they'll be in NCSL next year.
People are considering other options because VIVA/ABGC have once again shown that they are unorganized and incapable of running a soccer program. Those deciding to stay don't really understand the current soccer landscape in our area and that VIVA/ABGC are a sinking ship and have been on that road for many years. Drive an extra 15 minutes in any direction and you'll give your kids a much better soccer experience.

Why are you on this website? It isn’t about cougars/olympiacos. So please tell me why you are on this site when it is talking about villarreal/viva?

I'm not here b/c of olympiacos, I'm addressing VIVA/ABGC's lack of ability to be competent. In prior pages, someone said they were with VIVA and moving to Olympiacos because of this mess and someone including yourself decided to bash them. This is very related to VIVA/ABGC.

Please read your previous quotes because you are clearly trying to spread cougars/olympiacos. Please tell me why any would want to go to the number 17 team in the state (cougars/olympiacos) because I would rather have my kid go to the number 2 team in the state(viva/villarreal).

I'm not the poster you are responding to, but going after Olympiacos like you are is only making you seem petty, defensive, and insecure. Olympiacos practices at Pine Ridge, in Annandale, so they are clearly an option to consider for anyone currently at VIVA.

As for your statement that you'd rather have your kid go to the team with the 2nd most gotsoccer points in the state than the team with the 17th most gotsoccer points in the state - that may be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this site.

I'd rather send my kid to the team with better coaching.

Bo gets decent results playing direct soccer with man-children. Always has, always will. Doesn't matter what logo you put on the jersey, that's not going to change. If you think I'm wrong about that, please post video.

You are so funny bo has put more kids into college than any coach in the area. If olympiacos is so good why do they only talk about their 05 age group on instagram and your OLYMPIACOS WEBSITE. I will tell you why because Harry karageorge and his rebels have their kids play on the 05 team.They play in the lowest tournaments and lose. They really don’t care about any other team other than the 05’s.

My kid doesn't play for Olympiacos and I have no idea who Harry is.

Bo's good at marketing himself, I'll give him that. He's been around for a long time, won a few state cups. "Put more kids in college than any coach in the area"? That I highly doubt.

Anyway, I did find some video.

Please note that I'm not posting this so people can come on and take cheap shots at the kids. The coach is fair game though IMO. For example, I love the way he has them taking their goal kicks. Yep, you sure can see that La Liga influence all over this team, LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQRM9lN_fE

I see NO La Liga influence in this video. They do not connect a lot of passes and all is the same basic US kickball.
Taking goal kicks has nothing to do with modern soccer. Wake up dear parent.

They don’t even scan or look to receive and turn with their first touch. They take a touch (usually quite heavy) then turn clunkily then look up to try to play forward. Look at their very first pass out to the wing immediately after kickoff. The lane is there to easily get that pass out there on the ground, instead it’s practically a punt, the winger struggles to bring it down, gets closed down while waiting for that ball to come down and almost gives up a throw in. This tells you how the team plays in a nutshell, and they’re ranked #2? Lol

Great analysis of the 05 team play!!!! I have observed it for a year now. Always the same play - kick forward into pressure. Bo calls a pass back a negative pass. Well, million of negative passes then made in La Liga over a season. Yes these guys are #2 and may be deservingly so. All it tells us that others are even worse. I have seen some teams play a different style- passing, control, offside traps etc. However, size really matters at this age. Barcelona academy in Spain always looses to big kids from Serbia, France etc. Then it all changes after U17. In other words, u14 wins, rankings etc. do not a matter. What matters is education of players, which hardly exists.

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid will not get looked at by the pro team in Spain and has no chance to make it into the actual pro team in Spain. I’m sorry. If they were good enough, you wouldn’t be paying thousands just to wear their colors. I actually quite like Villarreal CF, but this thread has gone from “Bo Amato has a high college recruitment rate” to “my kid will play in La Liga.”

You are really funny ?. Imagine if one word you said was true!! I never said my kid would play in la liga. If anyone’s kid is not good enough for la liga, villarreal would sell the player to a lower division team or even the mls.

Your kid will not be sold by Villarreal either. He won’t even be a part of their structure. You are really deluded?

All I’m saying maybe if he is good enough a pathway opens for him, it may not happen it may happen never know. I guarantee that viva is will be a better program now without abgc up their ass every minute of the day.

Better than what???? Looking at the video of the top 05 team, there are no questions about what they are doing - same US direct soccer.

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but no. If your kid’s good enough, you’d realize it or would be approached and could take them straight to an actual source where they can try to make that top level. A surrogate money grab an ocean away will not do that for you and you have some weird delusion about what you’re going to get out of VIVA. You want to give your kid a chance you’d be trying to see if you can get them a trial in Europe, Mexico, South America, MLS, USL, NASL, PDL, whatever. You’ve been duped and are trying to dupe others with this “at least they gave their kid a chance” crap.

Exactly, if the kid is good by 18 - chances will come. Before 18 the kid cannot go to Europe anyways unless the family move there. Focus on player development, not on the fake promises and illusions. To many fake promises in the US soccer now. Player DEVELOPMENT needs to happen. Yet we are seeing videos of 05 VReal team that plays horrible soccer despite the high rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:Why bashing on Olympiacos/Cougars, they are trying to put a good product together and grow. No one is saying they are "elite" but they have done well within their level of competition and it's good that they'll be in NCSL next year.
People are considering other options because VIVA/ABGC have once again shown that they are unorganized and incapable of running a soccer program. Those deciding to stay don't really understand the current soccer landscape in our area and that VIVA/ABGC are a sinking ship and have been on that road for many years. Drive an extra 15 minutes in any direction and you'll give your kids a much better soccer experience.

Why are you on this website? It isn’t about cougars/olympiacos. So please tell me why you are on this site when it is talking about villarreal/viva?

I'm not here b/c of olympiacos, I'm addressing VIVA/ABGC's lack of ability to be competent. In prior pages, someone said they were with VIVA and moving to Olympiacos because of this mess and someone including yourself decided to bash them. This is very related to VIVA/ABGC.

Please read your previous quotes because you are clearly trying to spread cougars/olympiacos. Please tell me why any would want to go to the number 17 team in the state (cougars/olympiacos) because I would rather have my kid go to the number 2 team in the state(viva/villarreal).

I'm not the poster you are responding to, but going after Olympiacos like you are is only making you seem petty, defensive, and insecure. Olympiacos practices at Pine Ridge, in Annandale, so they are clearly an option to consider for anyone currently at VIVA.

As for your statement that you'd rather have your kid go to the team with the 2nd most gotsoccer points in the state than the team with the 17th most gotsoccer points in the state - that may be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this site.

I'd rather send my kid to the team with better coaching.

Bo gets decent results playing direct soccer with man-children. Always has, always will. Doesn't matter what logo you put on the jersey, that's not going to change. If you think I'm wrong about that, please post video.

You are so funny bo has put more kids into college than any coach in the area. If olympiacos is so good why do they only talk about their 05 age group on instagram and your OLYMPIACOS WEBSITE. I will tell you why because Harry karageorge and his rebels have their kids play on the 05 team.They play in the lowest tournaments and lose. They really don’t care about any other team other than the 05’s.

My kid doesn't play for Olympiacos and I have no idea who Harry is.

Bo's good at marketing himself, I'll give him that. He's been around for a long time, won a few state cups. "Put more kids in college than any coach in the area"? That I highly doubt.

Anyway, I did find some video.

Please note that I'm not posting this so people can come on and take cheap shots at the kids. The coach is fair game though IMO. For example, I love the way he has them taking their goal kicks. Yep, you sure can see that La Liga influence all over this team, LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQRM9lN_fE

I see NO La Liga influence in this video. They do not connect a lot of passes and all is the same basic US kickball.
Taking goal kicks has nothing to do with modern soccer. Wake up dear parent.

OMG did you seriously miss the sarcasm there dear parent?

Let me try and spell it out for you:

They aren't trying to play out of the back from goal kicks. He has his central defender come in and boot it long every time - presumably because he can kick farther than the goalie.

If the Spanish coaches they brought over had any influence at all, there is no way they would let the team take goal kicks that way.

So yeah, I'm agreeing with you. No La Liga influence. It was a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:Why bashing on Olympiacos/Cougars, they are trying to put a good product together and grow. No one is saying they are "elite" but they have done well within their level of competition and it's good that they'll be in NCSL next year.
People are considering other options because VIVA/ABGC have once again shown that they are unorganized and incapable of running a soccer program. Those deciding to stay don't really understand the current soccer landscape in our area and that VIVA/ABGC are a sinking ship and have been on that road for many years. Drive an extra 15 minutes in any direction and you'll give your kids a much better soccer experience.

Why are you on this website? It isn’t about cougars/olympiacos. So please tell me why you are on this site when it is talking about villarreal/viva?

I'm not here b/c of olympiacos, I'm addressing VIVA/ABGC's lack of ability to be competent. In prior pages, someone said they were with VIVA and moving to Olympiacos because of this mess and someone including yourself decided to bash them. This is very related to VIVA/ABGC.

Please read your previous quotes because you are clearly trying to spread cougars/olympiacos. Please tell me why any would want to go to the number 17 team in the state (cougars/olympiacos) because I would rather have my kid go to the number 2 team in the state(viva/villarreal).

I'm not the poster you are responding to, but going after Olympiacos like you are is only making you seem petty, defensive, and insecure. Olympiacos practices at Pine Ridge, in Annandale, so they are clearly an option to consider for anyone currently at VIVA.

As for your statement that you'd rather have your kid go to the team with the 2nd most gotsoccer points in the state than the team with the 17th most gotsoccer points in the state - that may be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this site.

I'd rather send my kid to the team with better coaching.

Bo gets decent results playing direct soccer with man-children. Always has, always will. Doesn't matter what logo you put on the jersey, that's not going to change. If you think I'm wrong about that, please post video.

You are so funny bo has put more kids into college than any coach in the area. If olympiacos is so good why do they only talk about their 05 age group on instagram and your OLYMPIACOS WEBSITE. I will tell you why because Harry karageorge and his rebels have their kids play on the 05 team.They play in the lowest tournaments and lose. They really don’t care about any other team other than the 05’s.

My kid doesn't play for Olympiacos and I have no idea who Harry is.

Bo's good at marketing himself, I'll give him that. He's been around for a long time, won a few state cups. "Put more kids in college than any coach in the area"? That I highly doubt.

Anyway, I did find some video.

Please note that I'm not posting this so people can come on and take cheap shots at the kids. The coach is fair game though IMO. For example, I love the way he has them taking their goal kicks. Yep, you sure can see that La Liga influence all over this team, LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQRM9lN_fE

I tried to watch this, had to stop after 5 minutes. Ugh. That team is really ranked #2 in the state? They are playing volleyball.

Well the state level is not that high obviously. All top teams including DAs are playing pin pong - no ball possession, running and kicking. La Liga - here we come, take us!!!! may be our boys can help with field maintenance there or sell candies at the games

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Anonymous wrote:Your kid will not get looked at by the pro team in Spain and has no chance to make it into the actual pro team in Spain. I’m sorry. If they were good enough, you wouldn’t be paying thousands just to wear their colors. I actually quite like Villarreal CF, but this thread has gone from “Bo Amato has a high college recruitment rate” to “my kid will play in La Liga.”

You are really funny ?. Imagine if one word you said was true!! I never said my kid would play in la liga. If anyone’s kid is not good enough for la liga, villarreal would sell the player to a lower division team or even the mls.

"There will be an opportunity for selected players based on recommendation, skills and performance, to visit Villarreal CF Spain for individual tryouts and team training."

It's right there on the website: http://villarrealvaacademy.org/.

That's what they're promising. Problem is it's a baldfaced lie and they know it.

1. It's against FIFA rules for youth players to move countries for soccer reasons. If a kid's parents happen to relocate for work related reasons, and the kid just happens to be good at soccer, and ends up in an academy, that's fine. But soccer can't be the reason for the move. FIFA will investigate and the sanctions have been significant. When they cracked down on Barca a few years ago they imposed a 2 season transfer ban. The fallout and ripple effect of that was felt all over Europe. The clubs don't mess around with this any more.

Do players still move to Europe? Sure. But they do it in a way that makes it look like it's for non-soccer family/work reasons, and the kid usually plays amateur level for a year before being "found" and transferring to an academy. Even then FIFA will look into it. Any kid trying to transfer after going for a "tryout" would be immediately red flagged. It just isn't going to happen.

Putting aside #1 though,

2. Even if Villarreal CF was interested in scouting and recruiting players from this area, they would not be looking at VIVA. That would make zero sense. They would go where the best players are. In the past when European clubs did that it meant sending teams and scouts to the top flights of the biggest tournaments. That's how local (Beth-Olney) product Gideon Zelalem was scouted by Arsenal - at the Dallas Cup. Nowadays it would mean going to DA showcases and/or the GA Cup.

3. The players are nowhere near the level to even be considered for Villarreal CF's academy. I'm not trying to be mean but that's just a fact. A couple of them at most might get a look at one of the local DAs, but to be honest even that's a stretch. With the exception of VDA - which is really hurting in this age group - I don't think anyone on that field would have a realistic chance of making Arlington, DCU or Bethesda. They are good travel soccer players, but they are not prospective future pros.

What boils me up is that Bo and Carlos know all 3 of these things perfectly well, but they still have no problem lying to people to get them to join and stay with the program, by convincing them that playing with VIVA is a way to "get looked at" by the professional team in Spain.

Very unethical people.

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Just imagine if bo was actually coaching the game. Because he wasn’t.

Is Bo known for not being at games?