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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing to see a bunch of grown adults act so venomous toward a CHILD.

Literally, this is a kid. Have you no shame?

When the "child" cynically uses the tragic deaths of his school mates to obtain personal notoriety and self-aggrandizement, then he is swimming in the deep end of the grown ups pool.

And, you need to change your Pampers.

Very true but the problem is Harvard. Hogg just saw an opening to exploit the system, and succeeded.

Same as Trump did, in a different context.

Hogg and Trump are both used car salesman who knew what their targets want to hear. In a pure merit based system, neither of them would succeed.

Exactly.

Neither would have Obama or W, btw.

Obama worked his way through to be elected president of Harvard Law Review, so I don't think his intellectual chops are lacking.

We can see in this very thread what Harvard values other than intellectual chops.

Apparently, leadership ability.

Oh, I'm sure that Law Review presidential gig was a cakewalk. Natch.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing to see a bunch of grown adults act so venomous toward a CHILD.

Literally, this is a kid. Have you no shame?

When the "child" cynically uses the tragic deaths of his school mates to obtain personal notoriety and self-aggrandizement, then he is swimming in the deep end of the grown ups pool.

And, you need to change your Pampers.

Very true but the problem is Harvard. Hogg just saw an opening to exploit the system, and succeeded.

Same as Trump did, in a different context.

Hogg and Trump are both used car salesman who knew what their targets want to hear. In a pure merit based system, neither of them would succeed.

Exactly.

Neither would have Obama or W, btw.

Obama worked his way through to be elected president of Harvard Law Review, so I don't think his intellectual chops are lacking.

We can see in this very thread what Harvard values other than intellectual chops.

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David Hogg will make a lifetime career out of his victimhood. LOSER.

It's pretty clear that Mr. Hogg is not even close to being academically qualified to attend Harvard (which is why a number of other lesser schools handily rejected his application, despite his notoriety and media-savvy credentials).

What his lack of brain-power implies is that he will struggle with his class work while at Harvard. It's inevitable based on his (at best) "mediocre" test scores.

I imagine he will spend a couple of years there giving short shrift to his class work and devoting most if not all of his time to polishing his "brand."

Most likely he will try to set up a non-profit foundation or NGO which he can run or otherwise get a high level job at, and then exit Harvard without actually getting his degree because he is needed so urgently elsewhere.

The shame of it all is there must be at least 500 or 1000 black or hispanic kids with better grades and scores who missed out on Harvard because they weren't good at marketing themselves.

Bwahahahaha. My degrees are from schools that functionally always rank among the top 5, and routinely among the top 3. I guarantee you David Hogg will do just fine at Harvard, as difficulty is associated largely with the major you choose rather than the undergrad school you attend. How else do you think the Bushes, Kushners, Trumps and other rich half-wits managed to even graduate?

I simply pointed out that Hogg was not admitted to Harvard based on academic merit, which is objectively verifiable as proven by the fact that about a dozen lesser schools rejected him (despite what could be described as his "public service accomplishments" as he wants to be perceived). That means they evaluated not only his test scores and his grades, but his recommendations, the quality of his high school, course work taken in high school, etc. etc.

To be rejected by so MANY lesser schools, Hoggs "total application package" must inevitably reflect someone who is OBVIOUSLY (at least "obviously" to an undergraduate admissions office) simply UNqualified academically, someone who they must believe has a good likelihood of NOT succeeding academically at their respective institutions.

So, this is not my opinion, this is the opinion of numerous evaluations by numerous colleges who would have absolutely no reason to deny him admission if he was even remotely academically qualified.

You must understand that this is in the context of his applications to institutions which are either "competitive" or "highly competitive" so all of these other schools are in effect deciding that they are not going to "waste" a space for a freshman on Hogg given that there are others more deserving of admission than he, and clearly so.

As to Bush, Trump, etc. etc., I do not know how many colleges they applied to as undergraduates and were rejected from, and I don't think that information is available, but it is available for Hogg, because he disclosed his numerous admission failures on social media.

I'm not sure where you get your information about which students can be successful at which schools, but I suspect you have a wildly distorted view of the actual level of achievement that attending any particular school represents.

I majored in a really demanding subject at my Ivy school. I also had to take a few classes for my general ed requirements that were a complete joke--no, wait, an embarrassing joke-- that required just a few hours spent skimming some texts and writing a few papers to get an A. I even remember one in which I was absolutely livid the day I had to turn in my final project, because I couldn't believe I was paying so much tuition to put up with this 5th grade crap we had to dish out for a grade.

The point is that all Harvard classes are not equal, and students of highly diverse academic abilities and backgrounds can do just fine there. Memories are short, but it's worth remembering that before the influx of European Jewish refugees in the 20th century, the Ivies were the schools where men from good families went to get their gentlemen's C's before moving on to the positions of influence owed to them by virtue of their background. These people still attend. There are just fewer of them now.

Harvard and other similar schools could fill their entire class with valedictorians if they wanted to. The catch is that valedictorians seldom go on to be movers and shakers, which is what these schools are looking for because it'll make them look good down the line. Hogg is already a mover and shaker, and therefore a natural fit for Harvard, regardless of his scores. In 20 years, Hogg could be a Senator or more, while your average valedictorian could be a dermatologist or a law firm partner. Which do you think Harvard would rather have as an alum?

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing to see a bunch of grown adults act so venomous toward a CHILD.

Literally, this is a kid. Have you no shame?

When the "child" cynically uses the tragic deaths of his school mates to obtain personal notoriety and self-aggrandizement, then he is swimming in the deep end of the grown ups pool.

And, you need to change your Pampers.

Very true but the problem is Harvard. Hogg just saw an opening to exploit the system, and succeeded.

Same as Trump did, in a different context.

Hogg and Trump are both used car salesman who knew what their targets want to hear. In a pure merit based system, neither of them would succeed.

Exactly.

Neither would have Obama or W, btw.

Obama worked his way through to be elected president of Harvard Law Review, so I don't think his intellectual chops are lacking.

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David Hogg will make a lifetime career out of his victimhood. LOSER.

It's pretty clear that Mr. Hogg is not even close to being academically qualified to attend Harvard (which is why a number of other lesser schools handily rejected his application, despite his notoriety and media-savvy credentials).

What his lack of brain-power implies is that he will struggle with his class work while at Harvard. It's inevitable based on his (at best) "mediocre" test scores.

I imagine he will spend a couple of years there giving short shrift to his class work and devoting most if not all of his time to polishing his "brand."

Most likely he will try to set up a non-profit foundation or NGO which he can run or otherwise get a high level job at, and then exit Harvard without actually getting his degree because he is needed so urgently elsewhere.

The shame of it all is there must be at least 500 or 1000 black or hispanic kids with better grades and scores who missed out on Harvard because they weren't good at marketing themselves.

Bwahahahaha. My degrees are from schools that functionally always rank among the top 5, and routinely among the top 3. I guarantee you David Hogg will do just fine at Harvard, as difficulty is associated largely with the major you choose rather than the undergrad school you attend. How else do you think the Bushes, Kushners, Trumps and other rich half-wits managed to even graduate?

I simply pointed out that Hogg was not admitted to Harvard based on academic merit, which is objectively verifiable as proven by the fact that about a dozen lesser schools rejected him (despite what could be described as his "public service accomplishments" as he wants to be perceived). That means they evaluated not only his test scores and his grades, but his recommendations, the quality of his high school, course work taken in high school, etc. etc.

To be rejected by so MANY lesser schools, Hoggs "total application package" must inevitably reflect someone who is OBVIOUSLY (at least "obviously" to an undergraduate admissions office) simply UNqualified academically, someone who they must believe has a good likelihood of NOT succeeding academically at their respective institutions.

So, this is not my opinion, this is the opinion of numerous evaluations by numerous colleges who would have absolutely no reason to deny him admission if he was even remotely academically qualified.

You must understand that this is in the context of his applications to institutions which are either "competitive" or "highly competitive" so all of these other schools are in effect deciding that they are not going to "waste" a space for a freshman on Hogg given that there are others more deserving of admission than he, and clearly so.

As to Bush, Trump, etc. etc., I do not know how many colleges they applied to as undergraduates and were rejected from, and I don't think that information is available, but it is available for Hogg, because he disclosed his numerous admission failures on social media.

Harvard told my friend if she donated 150k, her kid was guaranteed entry

How is that different from straight bribery?

It's not uncommon, friend of mine went to law school that way.

Harvard?

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing to see a bunch of grown adults act so venomous toward a CHILD.

Literally, this is a kid. Have you no shame?

When the "child" cynically uses the tragic deaths of his school mates to obtain personal notoriety and self-aggrandizement, then he is swimming in the deep end of the grown ups pool.

And, you need to change your Pampers.

Very true but the problem is Harvard. Hogg just saw an opening to exploit the system, and succeeded.

Same as Trump did, in a different context.

Hogg and Trump are both used car salesman who knew what their targets want to hear. In a pure merit based system, neither of them would succeed.

Exactly.

Neither would have Obama or W, btw.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing to see a bunch of grown adults act so venomous toward a CHILD.

Literally, this is a kid. Have you no shame?

He's 18. He can drive. He can enlist and offer up his life for his country. He can marry. He can work FT. He is no child in my eyes.

You certainly are a sh1thead in my eyes.

Love,

the sh1thead

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David Hogg will make a lifetime career out of his victimhood. LOSER.

It's pretty clear that Mr. Hogg is not even close to being academically qualified to attend Harvard (which is why a number of other lesser schools handily rejected his application, despite his notoriety and media-savvy credentials).

What his lack of brain-power implies is that he will struggle with his class work while at Harvard. It's inevitable based on his (at best) "mediocre" test scores.

I imagine he will spend a couple of years there giving short shrift to his class work and devoting most if not all of his time to polishing his "brand."

Most likely he will try to set up a non-profit foundation or NGO which he can run or otherwise get a high level job at, and then exit Harvard without actually getting his degree because he is needed so urgently elsewhere.

The shame of it all is there must be at least 500 or 1000 black or hispanic kids with better grades and scores who missed out on Harvard because they weren't good at marketing themselves.

Bwahahahaha. My degrees are from schools that functionally always rank among the top 5, and routinely among the top 3. I guarantee you David Hogg will do just fine at Harvard, as difficulty is associated largely with the major you choose rather than the undergrad school you attend. How else do you think the Bushes, Kushners, Trumps and other rich half-wits managed to even graduate?

I simply pointed out that Hogg was not admitted to Harvard based on academic merit, which is objectively verifiable as proven by the fact that about a dozen lesser schools rejected him (despite what could be described as his "public service accomplishments" as he wants to be perceived). That means they evaluated not only his test scores and his grades, but his recommendations, the quality of his high school, course work taken in high school, etc. etc.

To be rejected by so MANY lesser schools, Hoggs "total application package" must inevitably reflect someone who is OBVIOUSLY (at least "obviously" to an undergraduate admissions office) simply UNqualified academically, someone who they must believe has a good likelihood of NOT succeeding academically at their respective institutions.

So, this is not my opinion, this is the opinion of numerous evaluations by numerous colleges who would have absolutely no reason to deny him admission if he was even remotely academically qualified.

You must understand that this is in the context of his applications to institutions which are either "competitive" or "highly competitive" so all of these other schools are in effect deciding that they are not going to "waste" a space for a freshman on Hogg given that there are others more deserving of admission than he, and clearly so.

As to Bush, Trump, etc. etc., I do not know how many colleges they applied to as undergraduates and were rejected from, and I don't think that information is available, but it is available for Hogg, because he disclosed his numerous admission failures on social media.

Harvard told my friend if she donated 150k, her kid was guaranteed entry

I'm not saying your friend is lying, but I find this very hard to believe. For one thing, Harvard has a massive endowment and $150k isn't a huge amount to them, especially when the price of full-pay tuition for four years is higher than that. Secondly, there are plenty of families who could easily come up with this kind of $$ in exchange for admission to Harvard, and I would imagine the donation amount would probably be closer to $1M. Also, UVA was forced to release some of their admissions documents a couple years ago under a FOIA request and IIRC, didn't automatically admit a prospective student whose family had donated $250k (no idea whether the student was ultimately offered admission).

Anonymous wrote:Do you all think Harvard knew his mediocre SAT score was on the internet via his reddit comment history?

Does Harvard give a sh*t about what you think?

Do you all think Harvard knew his mediocre SAT score was on the internet via his reddit comment history?

Georgetown Law's Sanda Fluke was incredibly bright and also had DNC juice but she still lost her campaign primaries and is just a lawyer out in California, last I checked. College is four years. Hogg could remain really ambitious & use the Harvard credential to propel him... or once outside of his parents house he could turn into a lazy layabout who loves weed. Way too early to predict.

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David Hogg will make a lifetime career out of his victimhood. LOSER.

It's pretty clear that Mr. Hogg is not even close to being academically qualified to attend Harvard (which is why a number of other lesser schools handily rejected his application, despite his notoriety and media-savvy credentials).

What his lack of brain-power implies is that he will struggle with his class work while at Harvard. It's inevitable based on his (at best) "mediocre" test scores.

I imagine he will spend a couple of years there giving short shrift to his class work and devoting most if not all of his time to polishing his "brand."

Most likely he will try to set up a non-profit foundation or NGO which he can run or otherwise get a high level job at, and then exit Harvard without actually getting his degree because he is needed so urgently elsewhere.

The shame of it all is there must be at least 500 or 1000 black or hispanic kids with better grades and scores who missed out on Harvard because they weren't good at marketing themselves.

Bwahahahaha. My degrees are from schools that functionally always rank among the top 5, and routinely among the top 3. I guarantee you David Hogg will do just fine at Harvard, as difficulty is associated largely with the major you choose rather than the undergrad school you attend. How else do you think the Bushes, Kushners, Trumps and other rich half-wits managed to even graduate?

I simply pointed out that Hogg was not admitted to Harvard based on academic merit, which is objectively verifiable as proven by the fact that about a dozen lesser schools rejected him (despite what could be described as his "public service accomplishments" as he wants to be perceived). That means they evaluated not only his test scores and his grades, but his recommendations, the quality of his high school, course work taken in high school, etc. etc.

To be rejected by so MANY lesser schools, Hoggs "total application package" must inevitably reflect someone who is OBVIOUSLY (at least "obviously" to an undergraduate admissions office) simply UNqualified academically, someone who they must believe has a good likelihood of NOT succeeding academically at their respective institutions.

So, this is not my opinion, this is the opinion of numerous evaluations by numerous colleges who would have absolutely no reason to deny him admission if he was even remotely academically qualified.

You must understand that this is in the context of his applications to institutions which are either "competitive" or "highly competitive" so all of these other schools are in effect deciding that they are not going to "waste" a space for a freshman on Hogg given that there are others more deserving of admission than he, and clearly so.

As to Bush, Trump, etc. etc., I do not know how many colleges they applied to as undergraduates and were rejected from, and I don't think that information is available, but it is available for Hogg, because he disclosed his numerous admission failures on social media.

Harvard told my friend if she donated 150k, her kid was guaranteed entry

Your friend is a liar, and you're obviously not Harvard material yourself. Or maybe you're the liar.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing to see a bunch of grown adults act so venomous toward a CHILD.

Literally, this is a kid. Have you no shame?

When the "child" cynically uses the tragic deaths of his school mates to obtain personal notoriety and self-aggrandizement, then he is swimming in the deep end of the grown ups pool.

And, you need to change your Pampers.

Very true but the problem is Harvard. Hogg just saw an opening to exploit the system, and succeeded.

Same as Trump did, in a different context.

Hogg and Trump are both used car salesman who knew what their targets want to hear. In a pure merit based system, neither of them would succeed.

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Anonymous wrote:

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David Hogg will make a lifetime career out of his victimhood. LOSER.

It's pretty clear that Mr. Hogg is not even close to being academically qualified to attend Harvard (which is why a number of other lesser schools handily rejected his application, despite his notoriety and media-savvy credentials).

What his lack of brain-power implies is that he will struggle with his class work while at Harvard. It's inevitable based on his (at best) "mediocre" test scores.

I imagine he will spend a couple of years there giving short shrift to his class work and devoting most if not all of his time to polishing his "brand."

Most likely he will try to set up a non-profit foundation or NGO which he can run or otherwise get a high level job at, and then exit Harvard without actually getting his degree because he is needed so urgently elsewhere.

The shame of it all is there must be at least 500 or 1000 black or hispanic kids with better grades and scores who missed out on Harvard because they weren't good at marketing themselves.

Bwahahahaha. My degrees are from schools that functionally always rank among the top 5, and routinely among the top 3. I guarantee you David Hogg will do just fine at Harvard, as difficulty is associated largely with the major you choose rather than the undergrad school you attend. How else do you think the Bushes, Kushners, Trumps and other rich half-wits managed to even graduate?

I simply pointed out that Hogg was not admitted to Harvard based on academic merit, which is objectively verifiable as proven by the fact that about a dozen lesser schools rejected him (despite what could be described as his "public service accomplishments" as he wants to be perceived). That means they evaluated not only his test scores and his grades, but his recommendations, the quality of his high school, course work taken in high school, etc. etc.

To be rejected by so MANY lesser schools, Hoggs "total application package" must inevitably reflect someone who is OBVIOUSLY (at least "obviously" to an undergraduate admissions office) simply UNqualified academically, someone who they must believe has a good likelihood of NOT succeeding academically at their respective institutions.

So, this is not my opinion, this is the opinion of numerous evaluations by numerous colleges who would have absolutely no reason to deny him admission if he was even remotely academically qualified.

You must understand that this is in the context of his applications to institutions which are either "competitive" or "highly competitive" so all of these other schools are in effect deciding that they are not going to "waste" a space for a freshman on Hogg given that there are others more deserving of admission than he, and clearly so.

As to Bush, Trump, etc. etc., I do not know how many colleges they applied to as undergraduates and were rejected from, and I don't think that information is available, but it is available for Hogg, because he disclosed his numerous admission failures on social media.

Harvard told my friend if she donated 150k, her kid was guaranteed entry

How is that different from straight bribery?

It's not uncommon, friend of mine went to law school that way.