I think I found William's passion! Photos are six years apart. Kate looks stunning and the same - but Wills has lost every inch of hair and packed on a few pounds.

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2018

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Anonymous wrote:Don't you think that any attention Harry and Meghan have brought to the royal family recently is just further highlighting how obsolete and unnecessary their existence is? I'm still baffled at how the Brits allow generations of a family to be entitled to, simply by virtue of birth, a lifetime of privilege, wealth and notoriety with absolutely no political power. They are nothing more than a bunch of glorified First Ladies prancing around trying to prove their worth. From what I've read most Brits feel loyalty to the Queen, but once she passes I just can't imagine how they'll continue to justify supporting this growing family. These people basically attend charity functions all day which is fine, but the country could find celebrities and political heads to do that for a fraction of the cost. I hear the argument that they prove their worth by bringing in tourism dollars, but I've never known someone to travel to England so that they could see (meet?) the royal family. It would be like the US bestowing millions upon the Trumps and anyone born in to or married in to their families for generations simply because they bring attention to a few charities or create international headlines and then crediting that for US tourism.

Actually watching Harry and Meghan prancing around the globe did make me realize how silly and obsolete this whole institution is. Privileged rich people sheepishly walking around trying to make their tremendous privilege palatable to the masses. gross.

+1. It’s ridiculous. Will be interesting to see how brexit ends up truly affecting the British economy. If england’s economy continues to decline I can very well see the end of the monarchy.

That's an interesting take. The conventional wisdom is that their tour and the charitable work they do is what keeps them relevant and wanted. Brexit will be an enormous strain though and who knows if the monarchy will be swept out as part of the fall out.

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Anonymous wrote:I think, to get back on topic, that one of the things he could be jealous of is the fact that Harry and Meghan do seem to have a vision for their lives and how they can help people. William doesn't seem to have that.

But who's fault is that? He's old enough to have found a passion and dedicated himself to his. His air ambulance career? He could have EASILY segued that into a Healthcare/Vaccines/Operations fund/charity focusing on something as benile as improving children's smiles or impressive as establishing hospitals with staff in every global community.

He likes motorcycles - he could have made clean energy his passion - improving the potential to have driverless cars or automatic industries that focus on better safety. Whatever.

He could have joined an actual service like Harry did or spend years volunteering abroad as he did for one time in high school. The fact that he has nothing to show for his privileged life after 37 years is his fault and his alone.

These are good points. It is odd that he and Kate haven’t found their passion projects yet. They e been doing this for years.

The above post proves that William envies the life of his rich country friends and wants to be like them. Kate follows his example. Together they are being publicly funded to live their quiet and privileged domestic life in the country with their aristocratic friends.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't you think that any attention Harry and Meghan have brought to the royal family recently is just further highlighting how obsolete and unnecessary their existence is? I'm still baffled at how the Brits allow generations of a family to be entitled to, simply by virtue of birth, a lifetime of privilege, wealth and notoriety with absolutely no political power. They are nothing more than a bunch of glorified First Ladies prancing around trying to prove their worth. From what I've read most Brits feel loyalty to the Queen, but once she passes I just can't imagine how they'll continue to justify supporting this growing family. These people basically attend charity functions all day which is fine, but the country could find celebrities and political heads to do that for a fraction of the cost. I hear the argument that they prove their worth by bringing in tourism dollars, but I've never known someone to travel to England so that they could see (meet?) the royal family. It would be like the US bestowing millions upon the Trumps and anyone born in to or married in to their families for generations simply because they bring attention to a few charities or create international headlines and then crediting that for US tourism.

Actually watching Harry and Meghan prancing around the globe did make me realize how silly and obsolete this whole institution is. Privileged rich people sheepishly walking around trying to make their tremendous privilege palatable to the masses. gross.

+1. It’s ridiculous. Will be interesting to see how brexit ends up truly affecting the British economy. If england’s economy continues to decline I can very well see the end of the monarchy.

Anonymous wrote:Don't you think that any attention Harry and Meghan have brought to the royal family recently is just further highlighting how obsolete and unnecessary their existence is? I'm still baffled at how the Brits allow generations of a family to be entitled to, simply by virtue of birth, a lifetime of privilege, wealth and notoriety with absolutely no political power. They are nothing more than a bunch of glorified First Ladies prancing around trying to prove their worth. From what I've read most Brits feel loyalty to the Queen, but once she passes I just can't imagine how they'll continue to justify supporting this growing family. These people basically attend charity functions all day which is fine, but the country could find celebrities and political heads to do that for a fraction of the cost. I hear the argument that they prove their worth by bringing in tourism dollars, but I've never known someone to travel to England so that they could see (meet?) the royal family. It would be like the US bestowing millions upon the Trumps and anyone born in to or married in to their families for generations simply because they bring attention to a few charities or create international headlines and then crediting that for US tourism.

Actually watching Harry and Meghan prancing around the globe did make me realize how silly and obsolete this whole institution is. Privileged rich people sheepishly walking around trying to make their tremendous privilege palatable to the masses. gross.

Say what you will about Prince Charles and his horrid treatment of Diana, you cannot say that he takes his job or title lightly. By all accounts he is respectful to his mother and deeply proud of and an active and enthusiastic member of the BRF. Both he and Camilla work their tails off and he from his youth has been a very serious and intellectual man.

He was an advocate of organic farming before organic was a thing and an earnest environmentalist before climate change became a big deal. He has apparently also written two books!

Prince Charles is, as we’ve mentioned, legitimately passionate about matters of ecological concern. He’s even written two books about the subject: Harmony: A New Way of Looking At The World, which describes itself as in the same vein as An Inconvenient Truth, and On the Future of Food, taken from his keynote speech at the Future of Food conference at Georgetown University in 2011. But that’s not all! In 1980, he wrote a children’s book based on a story he used to tell his younger brothers Andrew and Edward; The Old Man of Lochnagar is the tale of a gruff old man in a desperate search for peace and quiet and a hot bath. The book was made into a BBC animated film, with the Prince narrating, and later, with the Prince’s permission, a ballet.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/51922/11-things-prince-charles-does-his-time

William by comparison was always not very well disciplined and he lacked passion and vision since a very young age.

I think he was a very sensitive young boy and his parents bitter fights really effected him. After the death of his mother, he sort of grew up resenting the public, the press and probably thinks the monarchy is a royal burden that is forced upon him. I think he yearns to get away and be "a regular person" and as such affiliates with the Middletons and quiet country life. Behind the closed doors, he is a very troubled, unhappy young man.

Anonymous wrote:Don't you think that any attention Harry and Meghan have brought to the royal family recently is just further highlighting how obsolete and unnecessary their existence is? I'm still baffled at how the Brits allow generations of a family to be entitled to, simply by virtue of birth, a lifetime of privilege, wealth and notoriety with absolutely no political power. They are nothing more than a bunch of glorified First Ladies prancing around trying to prove their worth. From what I've read most Brits feel loyalty to the Queen, but once she passes I just can't imagine how they'll continue to justify supporting this growing family. These people basically attend charity functions all day which is fine, but the country could find celebrities and political heads to do that for a fraction of the cost. I hear the argument that they prove their worth by bringing in tourism dollars, but I've never known someone to travel to England so that they could see (meet?) the royal family. It would be like the US bestowing millions upon the Trumps and anyone born in to or married in to their families for generations simply because they bring attention to a few charities or create international headlines and then crediting that for US tourism.

I don't disagree completely but there is something to the attention that royals can bring to certain causes. Here's an article from Harry and Meghan's recent tour.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/kids-news/news/harry-and-meghan-use-their-celebrity-to-raise-awareness-of-causes-they-care-about/news-story/fbc58cd649f3914aeb82b9f4e27123a7

To keep the monarchy relevant, they probably need to lean in to this power. That's why William and Kate being so aloof is off-putting.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. Well, you don't actually.get it, because you keep on talking about how "we" all want to only read and talk about how awesome Kate is and her tiaras, evidently.

Why are you so frantically defensive of Kate?

Why are you so frantically against her?

Crazy lady, I am not. I have posted about.how lovely she looks in certain dresses, how the kids are cute, etc. I have also posted about republican polls and sentiment in the UK, for which you or your equally crazy friend freaked out and called me the anti-Kate troll.

So why are you so panicked about the slightest hint that someone might harbor an opinion about Kate that isn't entirely fawning? Do you think she is your friend? Do you identify with her? Why are you so unhinged when it comes to Kate?

I find it funny that you are calling me crazy. If you are not the pp why are you responding? If you are why can't you answer the question? I will answer you questions in order:

No, the Duchess is not my friend. No, I am not panicked. No I do not identify with her and no I am not unhinged as you put it.

I am simply bringing balance to your points, which are for the most part entirely baseless. But, keep thinking I am the crazy one!

DP. You seem unhinged. What balance do you bring by shutting down discussions? I get your point is that "we" (the royal "we"?) only care about tiaras, kids and fashion? That's clearly not the case, hence this thread.

How am I closing the discussion? You are still posting, correct? By balance I mean representing the other side. I never said "we" I am saying I. See bolded. Calling people unhinged is not winning the argument. Look in the mirror, babe!

Don't you think that any attention Harry and Meghan have brought to the royal family recently is just further highlighting how obsolete and unnecessary their existence is? I'm still baffled at how the Brits allow generations of a family to be entitled to, simply by virtue of birth, a lifetime of privilege, wealth and notoriety with absolutely no political power. They are nothing more than a bunch of glorified First Ladies prancing around trying to prove their worth. From what I've read most Brits feel loyalty to the Queen, but once she passes I just can't imagine how they'll continue to justify supporting this growing family. These people basically attend charity functions all day which is fine, but the country could find celebrities and political heads to do that for a fraction of the cost. I hear the argument that they prove their worth by bringing in tourism dollars, but I've never known someone to travel to England so that they could see (meet?) the royal family. It would be like the US bestowing millions upon the Trumps and anyone born in to or married in to their families for generations simply because they bring attention to a few charities or create international headlines and then crediting that for US tourism.

I agree with that. In some ways I think he is frozen. He wants the privilege and lifestyle but not the part about giving back and so freezes into inaction. It's too bad, really. He could do a loy of good in the world, but he doesn't.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point, I don't know who is crazier or more persistent.

To revert to the topic of the thread, I'm wondering what William's vision of Prince of Wales will be. According to Charles, it will be different than his own advocacy/interests. Besides mental illness, what are William's areas of passion that he will pursue as PoW?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/08/prince-of-wales-william-charles-bbc-documentary

If you'd been reading, this whole thread has been about how William doesn't HAVE any 'areas of passion'. None that he'd actually put any effort into anyway. Notice he specifically called out his father's work ethic as something he'd change. The crazy thing is..Charles had founded the Prince's Trust by 28. William is now nearly a decade older than he was at the time and sitting on his butt.

Amazing how we've been pointing out for weeks he's lazy and lo-and-behold, he confirms it.

In the documentary made by John Bridcut on BBC One tonight, the Dukes of Cambridge and Sussex speak candidly about their relationship with their father. William says: “Having more time with him at home would be lovely, and being able to play around with the grandchildren...because when he’s there, he’s brilliant, but we need him there as much as possible.” William also reveals he plans to be a very different kind of Prince of Wales: “There are so many things I admire about my father...but I want to be my own man and take my own style, passions

I've participated in the thread and personally agree that William hasn't shown much in the way of passion. Nor does he have the drive and stamina of Prince Charles. That's what makes me wonder what he would do as PoW. Otherwise, as has been stated in this thread before, he will be content to let the monarchy wither on the vine. But I suspect that he (and Kate) want all the privileges without the heavy lift.

Anonymous wrote:I think, to get back on topic, that one of the things he could be jealous of is the fact that Harry and Meghan do seem to have a vision for their lives and how they can help people. William doesn't seem to have that.

But who's fault is that? He's old enough to have found a passion and dedicated himself to his. His air ambulance career? He could have EASILY segued that into a Healthcare/Vaccines/Operations fund/charity focusing on something as benile as improving children's smiles or impressive as establishing hospitals with staff in every global community.

He likes motorcycles - he could have made clean energy his passion - improving the potential to have driverless cars or automatic industries that focus on better safety. Whatever.

He could have joined an actual service like Harry did or spend years volunteering abroad as he did for one time in high school. The fact that he has nothing to show for his privileged life after 37 years is his fault and his alone.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point, I don't know who is crazier or more persistent.

To revert to the topic of the thread, I'm wondering what William's vision of Prince of Wales will be. According to Charles, it will be different than his own advocacy/interests. Besides mental illness, what are William's areas of passion that he will pursue as PoW?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/08/prince-of-wales-william-charles-bbc-documentary

If you'd been reading, this whole thread has been about how William doesn't HAVE any 'areas of passion'. None that he'd actually put any effort into anyway. Notice he specifically called out his father's work ethic as something he'd change. The crazy thing is..Charles had founded the Prince's Trust by 28. William is now nearly a decade older than he was at the time and sitting on his butt.

Amazing how we've been pointing out for weeks he's lazy and lo-and-behold, he confirms it.

In the documentary made by John Bridcut on BBC One tonight, the Dukes of Cambridge and Sussex speak candidly about their relationship with their father. William says: “Having more time with him at home would be lovely, and being able to play around with the grandchildren...because when he’s there, he’s brilliant, but we need him there as much as possible.” William also reveals he plans to be a very different kind of Prince of Wales: “There are so many things I admire about my father...but I want to be my own man and take my own style, passions

I'm guessing you're single because who would put up with you arguing your point to the absolute death? It's like being stuck with a robot on repeat.

Anonymous wrote:At this point, I don't know who is crazier or more persistent.

To revert to the topic of the thread, I'm wondering what William's vision of Prince of Wales will be. According to Charles, it will be different than his own advocacy/interests. Besides mental illness, what are William's areas of passion that he will pursue as PoW?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/08/prince-of-wales-william-charles-bbc-documentary

If you'd been reading, this whole thread has been about how William doesn't HAVE any 'areas of passion'. None that he'd actually put any effort into anyway. Notice he specifically called out his father's work ethic as something he'd change. The crazy thing is..Charles had founded the Prince's Trust by 28. William is now nearly a decade older than he was at the time and sitting on his butt.

Amazing how we've been pointing out for weeks he's lazy and lo-and-behold, he confirms it.

In the documentary made by John Bridcut on BBC One tonight, the Dukes of Cambridge and Sussex speak candidly about their relationship with their father. William says: “Having more time with him at home would be lovely, and being able to play around with the grandchildren...because when he’s there, he’s brilliant, but we need him there as much as possible.” William also reveals he plans to be a very different kind of Prince of Wales: “There are so many things I admire about my father...but I want to be my own man and take my own style, passions