Anonymous
Post 05/05/2018 23:11     Subject: Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
Anonymous wrote:First of all PAC is for bad players. The few good players always leave. ONLY go there if your alternative is Arlington bottom two teams and your DC is dead set on travel.

ADP is not going to set your kid back. If you want to get better at soccer, you should actually bypass every team at Arlington other than red and maybe white and do ADP. If your player has talent like the previous poster, then supplement ADP with good individual and small group training, during the year and in the off seasons. Play Super Y, not for Arlington, but.a different club. Don't get caught up into the No Man's Land of a blue or black team. That's a waste. You will have more fun and get more development with less travel in ADP + Xtra programming, and if you your kid wants to play U13 soccer and above as a teenager, then you will be able to break in. Don't listen to any of these people who tell you otherwise. Club soccer is not going to even make the best red team player better. It is up to your and your DC.

ADP is one of the best programs inside the Beltway.


sooo... i agree with you on some points - disagree on others ... the PAC players are not "bad" - they are just not as developed as the arlington/mclean kids at the younger ages. You say "bad" I would say less developed skill wise.

I 1,000% agree that PAC is a better fit if your other option is a Black/Silver/Gold Arlington team. The Arlington system is based (mostly) on the coach demonstrating it once and then the kids are expected to execute. that works for some kids, but not all (my easily distracted child being one of them). At PAC they take the time to teach and develop the kids, in large part b/c the pool they start with is not nearly as skilled as the Arlington Red-Blue pool. The HAVE to develop them. Now... if you kid is a superstar and can make the Arlington Red or white (maybe blue) team - then that's the better fit without a doubt. But Arlington silver/gold? No thank you. IMO - better to go someplace else and develop than to end up in that no mans land. Some do break out from there - but really not many. Better to play someplace else and develop for a few years (to your point of private training and a kid working on their own) and then try out again and be bright and new and shiny (which arlington loves).

I also think ADP phasing out is something more to consider than you make it out to be. Sure - it's up to the kid to progress. But *most* kids need to up their game to go from ADP to travel at u12. Arlington goes down from 4-6 teams although it adds a DA. For a kid who is happy where they are, to be faced with the get better or go back to rec, that's hard. As with anything, rec teams are also hit or miss. I have a son playing u12 rec currently - those kids are there for social reasons with a little soccer mixed in. For a kid who really wants to play soccer, it's not a great fit.

I am by no means saying PAC is a super star club of kids - but it's a great fit for some kids and families. They take the time to develop the kids. For my son, who is loves soccer, yet can be easily distracted, PAC is a great fit. They take the time to show him things when he does not get it the first time. Certainly some Arlington coaches will do that - but i have sat through far too many Arlington sessions where they demonstrate once and that is it. But i have seen PAC coaches many times taking kids one or two at a time to revisit a skill or a tactic.

Anonymous
Post 05/05/2018 22:58     Subject: Re:Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^well-known Type A Arlington parent strategy.

Start ‘em in travel in first/second grade to get ‘em seen.


anyone see the k'garteners at the girls u9 tryouts?!


It's playing up one year. Blame USA soccer for requiring 1st graders to try out now for travel.


Blame parents for demanding that their kids be on “teams”. From rec and having the friends all play together (which is all good) but then after that the fix is always in. Instead of understanding and Academy style process and trusting it parents become obsessed with rosters and who is on or not on the team. Then is the A team or B team. These are all the fault of parents who either seek status or to shield their child from competing by social engineering rosters that keep everyone comfortable. Go read the Arlington Red/DA thread to see this at play. You have parents conspiring to try and keep “their team” together versus making the right soccer decision for their kid. It is all about the “team” and maintaining the team’s status quo. This is not the fault of US Soccer but the fault of parents.


Fool. Clear agenda.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2018 22:42     Subject: Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
Anonymous wrote:First of all PAC is for bad players. The few good players always leave. ONLY go there if your alternative is Arlington bottom two teams and your DC is dead set on travel.

ADP is not going to set your kid back. If you want to get better at soccer, you should actually bypass every team at Arlington other than red and maybe white and do ADP. If your player has talent like the previous poster, then supplement ADP with good individual and small group training, during the year and in the off seasons. Play Super Y, not for Arlington, but.a different club. Don't get caught up into the No Man's Land of a blue or black team. That's a waste. You will have more fun and get more development with less travel in ADP + Xtra programming, and if you your kid wants to play U13 soccer and above as a teenager, then you will be able to break in. Don't listen to any of these people who tell you otherwise. Club soccer is not going to even make the best red team player better. It is up to your and your DC.

ADP is one of the best programs inside the Beltway.


Very glad you had a great ADP program. It is VERY VERY hit or miss, so count yourself lucky. Others certainly do not feel the same.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2018 10:11     Subject: Re:Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^well-known Type A Arlington parent strategy.

Start ‘em in travel in first/second grade to get ‘em seen.


anyone see the k'garteners at the girls u9 tryouts?!


It's playing up one year. Blame USA soccer for requiring 1st graders to try out now for travel.


Blame parents for demanding that their kids be on “teams”. From rec and having the friends all play together (which is all good) but then after that the fix is always in. Instead of understanding and Academy style process and trusting it parents become obsessed with rosters and who is on or not on the team. Then is the A team or B team. These are all the fault of parents who either seek status or to shield their child from competing by social engineering rosters that keep everyone comfortable. Go read the Arlington Red/DA thread to see this at play. You have parents conspiring to try and keep “their team” together versus making the right soccer decision for their kid. It is all about the “team” and maintaining the team’s status quo. This is not the fault of US Soccer but the fault of parents.


So who cares? Its always like that on every team my kid has been on. There are few parents who are like let’s keep this team together forever. Guess what? It never happens. In a year or two most of the team has turned over. The top team obsession is the same as the big 3 private school obsession. It’s not about the kid but the parents. You should see what the sidelines of the rec teams of the big 3 are like.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2018 09:19     Subject: Re:Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^well-known Type A Arlington parent strategy.

Start ‘em in travel in first/second grade to get ‘em seen.


anyone see the k'garteners at the girls u9 tryouts?!


It's playing up one year. Blame USA soccer for requiring 1st graders to try out now for travel.


Blame parents for demanding that their kids be on “teams”. From rec and having the friends all play together (which is all good) but then after that the fix is always in. Instead of understanding and Academy style process and trusting it parents become obsessed with rosters and who is on or not on the team. Then is the A team or B team. These are all the fault of parents who either seek status or to shield their child from competing by social engineering rosters that keep everyone comfortable. Go read the Arlington Red/DA thread to see this at play. You have parents conspiring to try and keep “their team” together versus making the right soccer decision for their kid. It is all about the “team” and maintaining the team’s status quo. This is not the fault of US Soccer but the fault of parents.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 23:16     Subject: Re:Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^well-known Type A Arlington parent strategy.

Start ‘em in travel in first/second grade to get ‘em seen.


anyone see the k'garteners at the girls u9 tryouts?!


It's playing up one year. Blame USA soccer for requiring 1st graders to try out now for travel.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 18:20     Subject: Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:re: the white tryout shirt. If they specify a white shirt, buy a $4 shirt at Michael's and have your kid wear it. At one of the tryouts last year, every single girl had on the white shirt except one girl wearing a bright pink shirt. I was torn between feeling sorry for her and wondering if her parents were either too lazy to read or were trying to get her to stand out from the pack. The whole point of the white shirt is that every kid is supposed to look the same and they have to stand out on their own merits. If your kid got a spot because a coach remembered her due to her shirt, that's unfair to kids whose parents followed the rules.

Sorry.


LOL, no kid ever lost a spot to a player who was wearing a bright shirt. It just makes it easier if everyone is wearing a single color for when they scrimmage and one team wears pinnies. It is easier for the players too in order to distinguish "teammates" during scrimmages and drills.


Ha! This brought back memories. My son and one kid looked exactly alike. To this day, my spouse is convinced they had them mixed up when they made the rosters at U9. However, that kid has steadily moved down teams while mine was slowly creeping up them.

At these huge tryouts nobody knows!
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 17:52     Subject: Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:re: the white tryout shirt. If they specify a white shirt, buy a $4 shirt at Michael's and have your kid wear it. At one of the tryouts last year, every single girl had on the white shirt except one girl wearing a bright pink shirt. I was torn between feeling sorry for her and wondering if her parents were either too lazy to read or were trying to get her to stand out from the pack. The whole point of the white shirt is that every kid is supposed to look the same and they have to stand out on their own merits. If your kid got a spot because a coach remembered her due to her shirt, that's unfair to kids whose parents followed the rules.

Sorry.


LOL, no kid ever lost a spot to a player who was wearing a bright shirt. It just makes it easier if everyone is wearing a single color for when they scrimmage and one team wears pinnies. It is easier for the players too in order to distinguish "teammates" during scrimmages and drills.


I originally asked about the shirt and just bought one at Michael’s for $3.50. I’m not concerned about her having a disadvantage or advantage because of her clothes at tryouts this weekend. When PP mentioned Michael’s I remembered how every year we need a plain shirt with short notice for a camp or school project. Now we are all set for that as well.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 16:57     Subject: Re:Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
Anonymous wrote:

Post 05/04/2018 11:26 Subject: Re:Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
Anonymous wrote:
My understanding (from a parent of boy on one of their U10 teams) is that they are not having open try outs - just player IDs through practices. Supposedly offers will go out next week so if you want to schedule a time for your son to drop in on a practice you might want to arrange that ASAP.



so it sounds like they have their teams are set only adding a few new players thru ID practices ? guessing no open tryouts means they want to fill voids of departing players? how do they run things under their new philosophy (ECNL) separate elite, blue , and white teams or a weekly player pool ?


Yes, it would seem that way (just filling vacant spots). Not sure about how they run things (we are not in BRYC) but I do know that there are two teams of U10B (which I believe are elite?) and that the blue/white teams seem to be run out of the Rec side. Take what I say with a grain of salt - I am sure there are others on this forum much more well-versed in BRYC.




On the Elite academy side the teams are broken down elite and blue for the first two teams and white if the have enough kids to field a third team. black and silver are use on the rec side. I think BRYC has a solid program maybe spread a little thin in coaching by looking at their website.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 13:43     Subject: Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
Anonymous wrote:re: the white tryout shirt. If they specify a white shirt, buy a $4 shirt at Michael's and have your kid wear it. At one of the tryouts last year, every single girl had on the white shirt except one girl wearing a bright pink shirt. I was torn between feeling sorry for her and wondering if her parents were either too lazy to read or were trying to get her to stand out from the pack. The whole point of the white shirt is that every kid is supposed to look the same and they have to stand out on their own merits. If your kid got a spot because a coach remembered her due to her shirt, that's unfair to kids whose parents followed the rules.

Sorry.


LOL, no kid ever lost a spot to a player who was wearing a bright shirt. It just makes it easier if everyone is wearing a single color for when they scrimmage and one team wears pinnies. It is easier for the players too in order to distinguish "teammates" during scrimmages and drills.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 13:38     Subject: Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
re: the white tryout shirt. If they specify a white shirt, buy a $4 shirt at Michael's and have your kid wear it. At one of the tryouts last year, every single girl had on the white shirt except one girl wearing a bright pink shirt. I was torn between feeling sorry for her and wondering if her parents were either too lazy to read or were trying to get her to stand out from the pack. The whole point of the white shirt is that every kid is supposed to look the same and they have to stand out on their own merits. If your kid got a spot because a coach remembered her due to her shirt, that's unfair to kids whose parents followed the rules.

Sorry.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:53     Subject: Re:Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018

Post 05/04/2018 11:26 Subject: Re:Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
Anonymous wrote:
My understanding (from a parent of boy on one of their U10 teams) is that they are not having open try outs - just player IDs through practices. Supposedly offers will go out next week so if you want to schedule a time for your son to drop in on a practice you might want to arrange that ASAP.



so it sounds like they have their teams are set only adding a few new players thru ID practices ? guessing no open tryouts means they want to fill voids of departing players? how do they run things under their new philosophy (ECNL) separate elite, blue , and white teams or a weekly player pool ?


Yes, it would seem that way (just filling vacant spots). Not sure about how they run things (we are not in BRYC) but I do know that there are two teams of U10B (which I believe are elite?) and that the blue/white teams seem to be run out of the Rec side. Take what I say with a grain of salt - I am sure there are others on this forum much more well-versed in BRYC.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:26     Subject: Re:Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
Anonymous wrote:My understanding (from a parent of boy on one of their U10 teams) is that they are not having open try outs - just player IDs through practices. Supposedly offers will go out next week so if you want to schedule a time for your son to drop in on a practice you might want to arrange that ASAP.



so it sounds like they have their teams are set only adding a few new players thru ID practices ? guessing no open tryouts means they want to fill voids of departing players? how do they run things under their new philosophy (ECNL) separate elite, blue , and white teams or a weekly player pool ?
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:17     Subject: Re:Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
Washington Spirit ID Session for Pre Academy Program (U9-U12 girls)
Friday, May 4th
5 to 6:15 PM
Lake Fairfax 4

The Washington Spirit will hold an ID Session for girls (9U-12U) who are interested in learning more about the Pre-Academy Program. There will be an informational meeting for parents tonight at 5 PM at the field.

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Anonymous
Post 05/04/2018 11:01     Subject: Re:Spring Travel Soccer Tryouts 2018
My understanding (from a parent of boy on one of their U10 teams) is that they are not having open try outs - just player IDs through practices. Supposedly offers will go out next week so if you want to schedule a time for your son to drop in on a practice you might want to arrange that ASAP.