Anonymous
03/21/2018 17:02
Subject: Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:Your kids will be fine wherever.
The high school will be fine.
Your property values will be fine.
The school board will be fine.
The overcrowding will be fine.
Just move on!!!!!
What are you a school board member? You're as much of a repeater as the person you complain about. Just stop posting here if it bothers you so much.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 16:17
Subject: Thoreau AAP
Your kids will be fine wherever.
The high school will be fine.
Your property values will be fine.
The school board will be fine.
The overcrowding will be fine.
Just move on!!!!!
The high school will be fine.
Your property values will be fine.
The school board will be fine.
The overcrowding will be fine.
Just move on!!!!!
Anonymous
03/21/2018 16:02
Subject: Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The 50-60 are OHS bound rising 8th graders. Has nothing to do with Madison. These are OHS kids who are currently in 7th grade at LJ and apparently want to switch to TMS for 8th grade. (??? siblings? are you suggesting they all have siblings who are one year younger and would be rising 7th graders?)
I was thinking they were some of the AAP Madison kids as well in that mix. Maybe I'm wrong. Where are you getting this information? How do you know none of them are AAP Oakton or Madison bound? Either way, I think it makes sense that when there is a boundary change, people consider switching especially if it lines up with their future high school.
No...the gen ed kids transferring are leaving the bulk of their OHS peers at LJ, to go to a school where the grade below them will have about 150 OHS-bound kids. The 50-60 will be the only OHS kids in 8th grade at TMS....and yet they are willing to leave LJ for one year. Maybe they know kids from sports in the Vienna Oakton area who go to TMS. Maybe they have had enough of the crowded halls and trailors at LJ.
The point about "time to move on" is that it's more productive to change what can be changed going forward than being stuck in the past.
I think what all this is leading to is an entire boundary change for the county. The boundary change will just make TMS more overcrowded and other schools very undercrowded and poorer. It will eventually result in a new high school and a complete boundary change for the county.
So be it.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 16:01
Subject: Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The 50-60 are OHS bound rising 8th graders. Has nothing to do with Madison. These are OHS kids who are currently in 7th grade at LJ and apparently want to switch to TMS for 8th grade. (??? siblings? are you suggesting they all have siblings who are one year younger and would be rising 7th graders?)
Think of these kids as the "early adapters" who are bailing on LJ for Thoreau sooner rather than later. That's the exact dynamic the School Board has set in motion, and it's not going to stop.
There is no "sooner" or later. Either you are zoned for LJ or you are zoned for TMS (in the future). What is there to "adapt" to (for families in 2019 and beyond)?
Info from fcps admin source. The unexpected demand is not frim AAP growing at TMS.
It does point out how incredibly wrong facilities is in their estimations.
?? Not really. They were apparently right that the AAP numbers would stay the same. They expect that ALL (non Aap) OHS 7th and 8th graders will be at TMS starting in 2019. They allow 8th graders to be grandfathered to stay at LJ for fall 2018. Facilities' numbers aren't wrong just because some kids were willing to move for fall 2018. It does put an extra burden on TMS a bit earlier than planned. They aren't complaining. They are just working to accommodate whoever comes.
Ultimately, the facilites projections on gen ed kids will be spot on. As for AAP, no one knows...including those who see doom. Right now, their doom predictions for 2018 appear to be unfounded.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 15:57
Subject: Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The 50-60 are OHS bound rising 8th graders. Has nothing to do with Madison. These are OHS kids who are currently in 7th grade at LJ and apparently want to switch to TMS for 8th grade. (??? siblings? are you suggesting they all have siblings who are one year younger and would be rising 7th graders?)
I was thinking they were some of the AAP Madison kids as well in that mix. Maybe I'm wrong. Where are you getting this information? How do you know none of them are AAP Oakton or Madison bound? Either way, I think it makes sense that when there is a boundary change, people consider switching especially if it lines up with their future high school.
No...the gen ed kids transferring are leaving the bulk of their OHS peers at LJ, to go to a school where the grade below them will have about 150 OHS-bound kids. The 50-60 will be the only OHS kids in 8th grade at TMS....and yet they are willing to leave LJ for one year. Maybe they know kids from sports in the Vienna Oakton area who go to TMS. Maybe they have had enough of the crowded halls and trailors at LJ.
The point about "time to move on" is that it's more productive to change what can be changed going forward than being stuck in the past.
I think what all this is leading to is an entire boundary change for the county. The boundary change will just make TMS more overcrowded and other schools very undercrowded and poorer. It will eventually result in a new high school and a complete boundary change for the county.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 15:56
Subject: Thoreau AAP
I keep seeing this bumped think8ng there is new information.
My kid will be aap 7th grader in fall 2019. Up until now I’ve thought about our decision on whether LJ (which is where I assume most of her closest aap friends were going to go) and TMS (where her neighbors non aap will go).
I would have pushed TM since she is not interested in TJ and I’d want to help set her up for a better high school social life at Madison (more friends from middle school, aap and not) Looks like if a good amount of aap are choosing TM it will make our decision easier.
Will keep checking back to see if more facts are posted on Thoreau AAP.
My kid will be aap 7th grader in fall 2019. Up until now I’ve thought about our decision on whether LJ (which is where I assume most of her closest aap friends were going to go) and TMS (where her neighbors non aap will go).
I would have pushed TM since she is not interested in TJ and I’d want to help set her up for a better high school social life at Madison (more friends from middle school, aap and not) Looks like if a good amount of aap are choosing TM it will make our decision easier.
Will keep checking back to see if more facts are posted on Thoreau AAP.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 15:53
Subject: Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The 50-60 are OHS bound rising 8th graders. Has nothing to do with Madison. These are OHS kids who are currently in 7th grade at LJ and apparently want to switch to TMS for 8th grade. (??? siblings? are you suggesting they all have siblings who are one year younger and would be rising 7th graders?)
I was thinking they were some of the AAP Madison kids as well in that mix. Maybe I'm wrong. Where are you getting this information? How do you know none of them are AAP Oakton or Madison bound? Either way, I think it makes sense that when there is a boundary change, people consider switching especially if it lines up with their future high school.
No...the gen ed kids transferring are leaving the bulk of their OHS peers at LJ, to go to a school where the grade below them will have about 150 OHS-bound kids. The 50-60 will be the only OHS kids in 8th grade at TMS....and yet they are willing to leave LJ for one year. Maybe they know kids from sports in the Vienna Oakton area who go to TMS. Maybe they have had enough of the crowded halls and trailors at LJ.
The point about "time to move on" is that it's more productive to change what can be changed going forward than being stuck in the past.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 15:48
Subject: Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The 50-60 are OHS bound rising 8th graders. Has nothing to do with Madison. These are OHS kids who are currently in 7th grade at LJ and apparently want to switch to TMS for 8th grade. (??? siblings? are you suggesting they all have siblings who are one year younger and would be rising 7th graders?)
Think of these kids as the "early adapters" who are bailing on LJ for Thoreau sooner rather than later. That's the exact dynamic the School Board has set in motion, and it's not going to stop.
There is no "sooner" or later. Either you are zoned for LJ or you are zoned for TMS (in the future). What is there to "adapt" to (for families in 2019 and beyond)?
Info from fcps admin source. The unexpected demand is not frim AAP growing at TMS.
It does point out how incredibly wrong facilities is in their estimations.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 15:46
Subject: Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The 50-60 are OHS bound rising 8th graders. Has nothing to do with Madison. These are OHS kids who are currently in 7th grade at LJ and apparently want to switch to TMS for 8th grade. (??? siblings? are you suggesting they all have siblings who are one year younger and would be rising 7th graders?)
Think of these kids as the "early adapters" who are bailing on LJ for Thoreau sooner rather than later. That's the exact dynamic the School Board has set in motion, and it's not going to stop.
There is no "sooner" or later. Either you are zoned for LJ or you are zoned for TMS (in the future). What is there to "adapt" to (for families in 2019 and beyond)?
Info from fcps admin source. The unexpected demand is not frim AAP growing at TMS.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 15:31
Subject: Re:Thoreau AAP
The school board is useless, but really it's facilities that is the problem for proposing these changes in the first place. Is this all Jeff Platenberg's doing? He's the head and was also the head for the Annandale fiasco. https://www.fcps.edu/department/department-facilities-and-transportation-services
Anonymous
03/21/2018 15:22
Subject: Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:The 50-60 are OHS bound rising 8th graders. Has nothing to do with Madison. These are OHS kids who are currently in 7th grade at LJ and apparently want to switch to TMS for 8th grade. (??? siblings? are you suggesting they all have siblings who are one year younger and would be rising 7th graders?)
Think of these kids as the "early adapters" who are bailing on LJ for Thoreau sooner rather than later. That's the exact dynamic the School Board has set in motion, and it's not going to stop.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 15:20
Subject: Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:The 50-60 are OHS bound rising 8th graders. Has nothing to do with Madison. These are OHS kids who are currently in 7th grade at LJ and apparently want to switch to TMS for 8th grade. (??? siblings? are you suggesting they all have siblings who are one year younger and would be rising 7th graders?)
I was thinking they were some of the AAP Madison kids as well in that mix. Maybe I'm wrong. Where are you getting this information? How do you know none of them are AAP Oakton or Madison bound? Either way, I think it makes sense that when there is a boundary change, people consider switching especially if it lines up with their future high school.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 15:17
Subject: Thoreau AAP
The 50-60 are OHS bound rising 8th graders. Has nothing to do with Madison. These are OHS kids who are currently in 7th grade at LJ and apparently want to switch to TMS for 8th grade. (??? siblings? are you suggesting they all have siblings who are one year younger and would be rising 7th graders?)
Anonymous
03/21/2018 15:11
Subject: Re:Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why "get over it" is the correct response to a bad decision that shouldn't be ignored with both School Board elections and the actual implementation of the boundary shift happening next year.
Some folks really want this injustice forgotten. Soon they'll be claiming those neighborhoods went to Thoreau "forever." Or maybe they can't deal with the fact that the same SB members who claim to be social justice warriors were more than happy to consign GenEd kids at Jackson to a sub-par environment.
You don't have to "get over it" altogether if you think it was wrong. Go ahead and do something about it in the real world. (suggestions have been made to make LJ the best it can be, run for school board, etc.). Those who oppose it have stated their case over and over. The decision has, in fact, been made. It IS being implemented. The point of "getting over it" is that opposers should recognize that THIS decision is done. It's not going to be reversed in the near term. So, doesn't it make sense to move on from arguing about what should have been decided on Feb. 22, and move on to what should be done next month, next fall, next year, next election?
You still have to deal with the facts -- even if you want change. The fact is that every school board member in attendance voted for it. So, you will have to get organized if you want to unseat all of them. And then come up with a plan to help your portion of FCPS.
By the way -- speaking of facts -- about 50-60 rising 8th graders are transferring from LJ to TMS for next fall (not AAP). There must be something going on (under the current situation) that 50-60 kids want to leave LJ in the middle of MS. Improving upon THAT might be a good start going forward.
I'm sure it has more to do with those kids going to Madison and Oakton High School. Some may be siblings and others may just feel like it's a better transition from that school to high school.
Anonymous
03/21/2018 15:08
Subject: Re:Thoreau AAP
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why "get over it" is the correct response to a bad decision that shouldn't be ignored with both School Board elections and the actual implementation of the boundary shift happening next year.
Some folks really want this injustice forgotten. Soon they'll be claiming those neighborhoods went to Thoreau "forever." Or maybe they can't deal with the fact that the same SB members who claim to be social justice warriors were more than happy to consign GenEd kids at Jackson to a sub-par environment.
SO interesting to read about your opinion for the millionth time. Do keep responding to days old posts in order tto bump up this thread to the top of the page just so you can whine some more.