Anonymous wrote:Maybe Trump is behind this big leak to detract attention from the confirmation hearings. Its a little coincidental that Tillerson is tomorrow.

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Anonymous wrote:Cue Trump supporters suddenly talking about Constitutional privacy rights and how what happens in the bedroom should stay in the bedroom.

Bedrooms in Moscow have no privacy rights.

Seriously, right? I've visited Russia. Any electronics you take there will be compromised -- so don't take them. Expect you're being watched. Trump is beyond stupid.

Its the example that they give in security classes for the USG, when overseas and Russians using spies, especially women to compromise people for information later. I did not think anyone was dumb enough to fall for it.

I wonder why the Russians leaked this? To keep him in line? I wonder if Assange will also share?

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Anonymous wrote:Cue Trump supporters suddenly talking about Constitutional privacy rights and how what happens in the bedroom should stay in the bedroom.

Bedrooms in Moscow have no privacy rights.

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Anonymous wrote:Surprised everyone is focusing on the kompromat when the report describes treason.

Treason is a strong word, hence spinning it to the other more salacious topics. Also, I doubt it will ever be proven to the level a Trump supporter needs.

Unfortunately, since we are not in a declared war with Russia, I don't think any court would determine that it's treason. But IMO it is totally treason.

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I know I haven't always believed in you, but please let this be true.

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Anonymous wrote:Surprised everyone is focusing on the kompromat when the report describes treason.

Treason is a strong word, hence spinning it to the other more salacious topics. Also, I doubt it will ever be proven to the level a Trump supporter needs.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone who regards Russia as "the enemy". Can I ask: who sets foreign policy in our democracy?

We've kinda been trying to not be enemies with Russia, but Putin hasn't been cooperating.

You know the Saudis are a putative friends and yet regularly undermine US interests? You know NATO countries and Israel spy on the US regularly? These are always complicated relationships and whether countries are allies or enemies is often a question of whether or not they serve the interests of the best connected Americans.

You're getting ridiculous with the false equivalence. This is indefensible and you know it.

whatever. if you think I'm anywhere close to being the ridiculous one here, you've already bought the bridge

Remember when you were prattling on about HRC's server and foundation? This is karma.

Which has what to do with Russia being our enemy or not? You've shifted from a discussion of foreign policy to a fight between petty personalities I wish we never had to deal with. But who runs the country and determines who enemies is worth getting some clarity on before some of you have a complete meltdown.

Once again, the foaming at the mouth anti-Trumpers are getting as sloppy as the Tea Baggers were in 2009/2010. I guess people really are equal regardless of sex, race, class, or creed!

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It's awful. The entire internet is NSFW.

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Anonymous wrote:Even Buzzfeed's editor has doubts..


This is a hit job...but 4Chan planted this info and said so themselves...and now we're here.

But there is a lot more than this. There is the Guardian report about the FBI FISA warrants on the Trump campaign. There is Trump's attitude toward Russia, which is otherwise unexplainable. There are reports that the IC briefed Trump on material the Russians have on him. Even if the 35-page report is not true and even if McCain had no part in it, there are lots of other details that are easily verifiable. A congressional investigation has to happen.

Let's see how Trump handles this at his presses tomorrow.

Where do you people get that its unexplainable? Russia has lots of oil, a pretty good military, it's culturally closer to the U.S. than many of our putative allies in the Middle East, and its been bombing ISIS and Al-Quaeda in Syria. I realize that isn't standard American elite fare, but it's not exactly 'unexplainable'.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone who regards Russia as "the enemy". Can I ask: who sets foreign policy in our democracy?

We've kinda been trying to not be enemies with Russia, but Putin hasn't been cooperating.

You know the Saudis are a putative friends and yet regularly undermine US interests? You know NATO countries and Israel spy on the US regularly? These are always complicated relationships and whether countries are allies or enemies is often a question of whether or not they serve the interests of the best connected Americans.

You're getting ridiculous with the false equivalence. This is indefensible and you know it.

whatever. if you think I'm anywhere close to being the ridiculous one here, you've already bought the bridge

Remember when you were prattling on about HRC's server and foundation? This is karma.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone who regards Russia as "the enemy". Can I ask: who sets foreign policy in our democracy?

We've kinda been trying to not be enemies with Russia, but Putin hasn't been cooperating.

You know the Saudis are a putative friends and yet regularly undermine US interests? You know NATO countries and Israel spy on the US regularly? These are always complicated relationships and whether countries are allies or enemies is often a question of whether or not they serve the interests of the best connected Americans.

And only RUSSIA has rendered the president of the US as his puppet... makes a difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I am missing something but this excerpt from the link seems to suggest the information was already available:

CNN has reviewed a 35-page compilation of the memos, from which the two-page synopsis was drawn. The memos originated as opposition research, first commissioned by anti-Trump Republicans, and later by Democrats.

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html

Some of the memos were circulating as far back as last summer. What has changed since then is that US intelligence agencies have now checked out the former British intelligence operative and his vast network throughout Europe and find him and his sources to be credible enough to include some of the information in the presentations to the President and President-elect a few days ago.

Help me out: is the suggestion that the Russians have found additional information over and beyond what opposition research surfaced?

My understanding is that we don't know exactly what the Russians have and, in fact, they might not have anything. What was discovered were claims by the Russians to have compromising information as well as contacts between the Trump campaign and the Russians. Again, as I understand it, a former British spy gathered the information. There is no new information. What is new is that US intelligence agencies have vetted the former British spy and found that his information is likely believable.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone who regards Russia as "the enemy". Can I ask: who sets foreign policy in our democracy?

We've kinda been trying to not be enemies with Russia, but Putin hasn't been cooperating.

You know the Saudis are a putative friends and yet regularly undermine US interests? You know NATO countries and Israel spy on the US regularly? These are always complicated relationships and whether countries are allies or enemies is often a question of whether or not they serve the interests of the best connected Americans.

You're getting ridiculous with the false equivalence. This is indefensible and you know it.

whatever. if you think I'm anywhere close to being the ridiculous one here, you've already bought the bridge

Remember when you were prattling on about HRC's server and foundation? This is karma.