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Anonymous wrote:I love this show. But I find myself weeping through it and by the end, just sobbing a big sob! Its exhausting, I don't think I can take any more.

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and now i see they're calling it "the next great tearjerker" on the xfinity guide. i may be watching this one at my leisure from here on out or immediately following up w/an old office of arrested dev episode because i don't wanna cry every damn week.

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Anonymous wrote:I love that this show is tackling racial issues. Randall picking a pool that he knows more black people go to because even at 8 years-old he understands that he's different and wants to be around people that look like him. I'm glad that the mother put her ego aside and asked for help from the black woman.

That black woman at the pool was such a snot to Rebecca. Why did she feel the need to humiliate Rebecca, simply because Rebecca was the white adoptive mom of a black child? She could have kindly offered advice re: the rash on Randall's neck, but instead she chose to loudly patronize Rebecca simply because Rebecca hadn't run right over to the black families and introduced Randall. WTF? I was really glad Rebecca went back and schooled that know-it-all.

Of course, we know they'll become friends regardless, but the whole scene made me mad.

I agree. It was over the top. I don't like the idea that someone who is selflessly raising another person's child being ridiculed over something like the child's hair.

A. I understand where the black woman is coming from. A white family with a black child doesn't bother to introduce (or even acknowledge) themselves to the other black families is a big snub. With the history of black-white relations white people adopting black children is still a sensitive topic (rightfully so), the least she could do is be friendly to other black people for Randall's sake.

B. Rebecca isn't selflessly raising another person's child*, she's raising her own child, and she adopted for the same selfish reasons that people have biological children. If her bio son hadn't died they would have went home with 3 white bio kids. She 'selfishly' wanted to come home with 3 kids because that is what they had planned on, period!

*We have to stop looking at adoption as some savior act when it's just as arrogant and selfish as having a biological child.

You are nuts. First of all, Rebecca was not obligated to go and start chatting up a bunch of strangers at a pool simply because they are black. If this was so important to the black folks, then why would they not approach her? Second of all, how is raising another person's child, or for that matter, having one's own biological child, "selfish and arrogant?" Would you prefer that children get tossed around from foster home to foster home rather than living with loving families who happen to be of a different race than the child. Would that be some kind of moral victory? If this is such a concern, then why don't more minority families step up and adopt these children? Or why don't people just not have children at all since, as you say, it is just an arrogant and selfish pursuit.

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Anonymous wrote:I love that this show is tackling racial issues. Randall picking a pool that he knows more black people go to because even at 8 years-old he understands that he's different and wants to be around people that look like him. I'm glad that the mother put her ego aside and asked for help from the black woman.

That black woman at the pool was such a snot to Rebecca. Why did she feel the need to humiliate Rebecca, simply because Rebecca was the white adoptive mom of a black child? She could have kindly offered advice re: the rash on Randall's neck, but instead she chose to loudly patronize Rebecca simply because Rebecca hadn't run right over to the black families and introduced Randall. WTF? I was really glad Rebecca went back and schooled that know-it-all.

Of course, we know they'll become friends regardless, but the whole scene made me mad.

I agree. It was over the top. I don't like the idea that someone who is selflessly raising another person's child being ridiculed over something like the child's hair.

A. I understand where the black woman is coming from. A white family with a black child doesn't bother to introduce (or even acknowledge) themselves to the other black families is a big snub. With the history of black-white relations white people adopting black children is still a sensitive topic (rightfully so), the least she could do is be friendly to other black people for Randall's sake.

B. Rebecca isn't selflessly raising another person's child*, she's raising her own child, and she adopted for the same selfish reasons that people have biological children. If her bio son hadn't died they would have went home with 3 white bio kids. She 'selfishly' wanted to come home with 3 kids because that is what they had planned on, period!

*We have to stop looking at adoption as some savior act when it's just as arrogant and selfish as having a biological child.

You are nuts. First of all, Rebecca was not obligated to go and start chatting up a bunch of strangers at a pool simply because they are black. If this was so important to the black folks, then why would they not approach her? Second of all, how is raising another person's child, or for that matter, having one's own biological child, "selfish and arrogant?" Would you prefer that children get tossed around from foster home to foster home rather than living with loving families who happen to be of a different race than the child. Would that be some kind of moral victory? If this is such a concern, then why don't more minority families step up and adopt these children? Or why don't people just not have children at all since, as you say, it is just an arrogant and selfish pursuit.

I dont think the poster is criticising adoption per say, simply the notion that its a "noble" rather than a selfish act. And i agree. My DH was adopted by one of the most selfish, frighteningly narcissistic people i have ever met. You can bet she was motivated by what she "wanted" not what thr noble thing tondo was.

NP here, agree, the pp was not criticizing adoption. I also agree that kate is not selflessly raising another persons child. She had very selfish (I'm not saying it was bad, it's wonderful Randall found a loving family) reasons for adopting Randall. And she is raising him just as she's raising her other children.

I'll add, I don't think the black mother was arrogant or snobbish at all. I think Kate deep down knew she was wrong for not seeking out any AA influences in Randall's life. That's why she reacted like she was so offended but really she should have been thankful to the woman for even offering any advice. And personally, I do think Kate is obligated to ensure she knows how to take care of things that might be unique to Randall, and yes that means trying to befriend other black families with children, especially since there are very few African Americans where they live.

Anonymous wrote:I love this show. But I find myself weeping through it and by the end, just sobbing a big sob! Its exhausting, I don't think I can take any more.

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Anonymous wrote:I love that this show is tackling racial issues. Randall picking a pool that he knows more black people go to because even at 8 years-old he understands that he's different and wants to be around people that look like him. I'm glad that the mother put her ego aside and asked for help from the black woman.

That black woman at the pool was such a snot to Rebecca. Why did she feel the need to humiliate Rebecca, simply because Rebecca was the white adoptive mom of a black child? She could have kindly offered advice re: the rash on Randall's neck, but instead she chose to loudly patronize Rebecca simply because Rebecca hadn't run right over to the black families and introduced Randall. WTF? I was really glad Rebecca went back and schooled that know-it-all.

Of course, we know they'll become friends regardless, but the whole scene made me mad.

I agree. It was over the top. I don't like the idea that someone who is selflessly raising another person's child being ridiculed over something like the child's hair.

A. I understand where the black woman is coming from. A white family with a black child doesn't bother to introduce (or even acknowledge) themselves to the other black families is a big snub. With the history of black-white relations white people adopting black children is still a sensitive topic (rightfully so), the least she could do is be friendly to other black people for Randall's sake.

B. Rebecca isn't selflessly raising another person's child*, she's raising her own child, and she adopted for the same selfish reasons that people have biological children. If her bio son hadn't died they would have went home with 3 white bio kids. She 'selfishly' wanted to come home with 3 kids because that is what they had planned on, period!

*We have to stop looking at adoption as some savior act when it's just as arrogant and selfish as having a biological child.

You are nuts. First of all, Rebecca was not obligated to go and start chatting up a bunch of strangers at a pool simply because they are black. If this was so important to the black folks, then why would they not approach her? Second of all, how is raising another person's child, or for that matter, having one's own biological child, "selfish and arrogant?" Would you prefer that children get tossed around from foster home to foster home rather than living with loving families who happen to be of a different race than the child. Would that be some kind of moral victory? If this is such a concern, then why don't more minority families step up and adopt these children? Or why don't people just not have children at all since, as you say, it is just an arrogant and selfish pursuit.

I dont think the poster is criticising adoption per say, simply the notion that its a "noble" rather than a selfish act. And i agree. My DH was adopted by one of the most selfish, frighteningly narcissistic people i have ever met. You can bet she was motivated by what she "wanted" not what thr noble thing tondo was.

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Anonymous wrote:I love that this show is tackling racial issues. Randall picking a pool that he knows more black people go to because even at 8 years-old he understands that he's different and wants to be around people that look like him. I'm glad that the mother put her ego aside and asked for help from the black woman.

That black woman at the pool was such a snot to Rebecca. Why did she feel the need to humiliate Rebecca, simply because Rebecca was the white adoptive mom of a black child? She could have kindly offered advice re: the rash on Randall's neck, but instead she chose to loudly patronize Rebecca simply because Rebecca hadn't run right over to the black families and introduced Randall. WTF? I was really glad Rebecca went back and schooled that know-it-all.

Of course, we know they'll become friends regardless, but the whole scene made me mad.

I agree. It was over the top. I don't like the idea that someone who is selflessly raising another person's child being ridiculed over something like the child's hair.

A. I understand where the black woman is coming from. A white family with a black child doesn't bother to introduce (or even acknowledge) themselves to the other black families is a big snub. With the history of black-white relations white people adopting black children is still a sensitive topic (rightfully so), the least she could do is be friendly to other black people for Randall's sake.

B. Rebecca isn't selflessly raising another person's child*, she's raising her own child, and she adopted for the same selfish reasons that people have biological children. If her bio son hadn't died they would have went home with 3 white bio kids. She 'selfishly' wanted to come home with 3 kids because that is what they had planned on, period!

*We have to stop looking at adoption as some savior act when it's just as arrogant and selfish as having a biological child.

You are nuts. First of all, Rebecca was not obligated to go and start chatting up a bunch of strangers at a pool simply because they are black. If this was so important to the black folks, then why would they not approach her? Second of all, how is raising another person's child, or for that matter, having one's own biological child, "selfish and arrogant?" Would you prefer that children get tossed around from foster home to foster home rather than living with loving families who happen to be of a different race than the child. Would that be some kind of moral victory? If this is such a concern, then why don't more minority families step up and adopt these children? Or why don't people just not have children at all since, as you say, it is just an arrogant and selfish pursuit.

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Anonymous wrote:I love that this show is tackling racial issues. Randall picking a pool that he knows more black people go to because even at 8 years-old he understands that he's different and wants to be around people that look like him. I'm glad that the mother put her ego aside and asked for help from the black woman.

That black woman at the pool was such a snot to Rebecca. Why did she feel the need to humiliate Rebecca, simply because Rebecca was the white adoptive mom of a black child? She could have kindly offered advice re: the rash on Randall's neck, but instead she chose to loudly patronize Rebecca simply because Rebecca hadn't run right over to the black families and introduced Randall. WTF? I was really glad Rebecca went back and schooled that know-it-all.

Of course, we know they'll become friends regardless, but the whole scene made me mad.

I agree. It was over the top. I don't like the idea that someone who is selflessly raising another person's child being ridiculed over something like the child's hair.

A. I understand where the black woman is coming from. A white family with a black child doesn't bother to introduce (or even acknowledge) themselves to the other black families is a big snub. With the history of black-white relations white people adopting black children is still a sensitive topic (rightfully so), the least she could do is be friendly to other black people for Randall's sake.

B. Rebecca isn't selflessly raising another person's child*, she's raising her own child, and she adopted for the same selfish reasons that people have biological children. If her bio son hadn't died they would have went home with 3 white bio kids. She 'selfishly' wanted to come home with 3 kids because that is what they had planned on, period!

*We have to stop looking at adoption as some savior act when it's just as arrogant and selfish as having a biological child.

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Anonymous wrote:I love that this show is tackling racial issues. Randall picking a pool that he knows more black people go to because even at 8 years-old he understands that he's different and wants to be around people that look like him. I'm glad that the mother put her ego aside and asked for help from the black woman.

That black woman at the pool was such a snot to Rebecca. Why did she feel the need to humiliate Rebecca, simply because Rebecca was the white adoptive mom of a black child? She could have kindly offered advice re: the rash on Randall's neck, but instead she chose to loudly patronize Rebecca simply because Rebecca hadn't run right over to the black families and introduced Randall. WTF? I was really glad Rebecca went back and schooled that know-it-all.

Of course, we know they'll become friends regardless, but the whole scene made me mad.

I agree. It was over the top. I don't like the idea that someone who is selflessly raising another person's child being ridiculed over something like the child's hair.

Agree with both PPs. That scene made me so mad. I have to say, I'm really liking Mandy Moore as an actress. Very believable!

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Anonymous wrote:I love that this show is tackling racial issues. Randall picking a pool that he knows more black people go to because even at 8 years-old he understands that he's different and wants to be around people that look like him. I'm glad that the mother put her ego aside and asked for help from the black woman.

That black woman at the pool was such a snot to Rebecca. Why did she feel the need to humiliate Rebecca, simply because Rebecca was the white adoptive mom of a black child? She could have kindly offered advice re: the rash on Randall's neck, but instead she chose to loudly patronize Rebecca simply because Rebecca hadn't run right over to the black families and introduced Randall. WTF? I was really glad Rebecca went back and schooled that know-it-all.

Of course, we know they'll become friends regardless, but the whole scene made me mad.

I agree. It was over the top. I don't like the idea that someone who is selflessly raising another person's child being ridiculed over something like the child's hair.