The person(s) who is slut shaming OP: Where is your tirade against the demand? Where are your words for the men who pay to look at naked women?

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I see there's a poster who doesn't think I have the right to set boundaries - it's that mentality that leads to the rape and killing of women. Very upsetting. You win PP!

The point is that she's selling her self/body for money which really makes her no better than a hooker. It's all a part of the same industry:sex.

And stop the madness. There is nothing empowering to women about a woman who takes her clothes off for male enjoyment, as if she's a zoo animal.

An empowered female would draw the line at selling her body for a dollar.

If she was so empowered there would be no shame or secrecy in her actions.

Needing to have someone walk you to your car at the end of the night because your profession is wrought with so much strife is NOT empowering. Clearly it's harmful, scary and unsafe.

Spin all you'd like sister.

You know that many, if not most, of the women on DCUM married for money. Get over yourself PP.

That's complete bs.

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Anonymous wrote:A while back, I asked the original poster if she had even considered being a webcam girl and didn't get an answer.

I thought it was a reason able question. They can work from a studio or home, so it would be safer. They can make a ton of money, depending upon what they are willing to do and how many hours they are willing to work.

They can set their own hours.

Webcam girls come in all shapes, sizes, and ages. Many much older than the OP are doing quite well.

Countries, and areas within a country can be blocked, to keep people that you don't want to know what you are doing from finding out online. Seems like it would be easier to protect your identity than if stripping in a club.

Also, there are webcam girls that dance and make good money while probably showing less skin than OP does.

Sorry I overlooked that question.

No, I'm not interested in becoming a webcam girl. I don't even know what that is, but I imagine it would involve my computer and my home. So...not interested.

Why do you have such a high opinion of yourself?

Why shouldn't she? And what does that have to do with webcam stripping versus strip club stripping?

Her whole attitude is "I am above prostitution" "I am above using my home" "I don't want to see erect penises"

So you think op shouldn't have a right to set boundaries?

She takes her clothes off for strangers for money, having boundaries at this point is vital and empowering to her.

Fixed that for you!

How is it empowering? She shows men her naked body, but won't have sex with them. Excellent boundary there.

Um, yeah, it is. How is it that you don't see that? The men coming in know those are the rules, she's reaffirming it in her stance and answers here, she's making money (more than a lot of us) by doing so. In my mind, as long as she's cool with it, that equals empowering and having boundaries.

Would you encourage your dd to do it?

Utterly irrelevant. The only person's whose perspective matters is OP and her body, no one else's. Whether anyone would encourage their daughter to become a stripper is an entirely different conversation as to whether or not strippers have the right to set boundaries for themselves, and in this case, whether OP has the right to set personal boundaries for herself while at work.

PP again. But I'll answer your question. Should my daughter ever decide to become a stripper, yes, I would absolutely encourage her to set boundaries for herself while working.

Former stripper here and a new poster on this thread. I worked as a dancer (that was job title on contract lol) in several states over the course of 14 years. For me it was a positive experience in every way. I only recall a couple of girls who did prostitution on the side. This was and still is illegal - those girls were fired when management caught on to them. For what it is worth, both of these girls were from countries where prostitution is very common and apparently more socially acceptable. But the vast majority of strippers that i worked with were strictly business - not drug addicts or prostitutes. The stereotypical hard-partying promiscuous girls is no more common among strippers than on a college campus. Sorry but it's true as my OP sister can probably attest.
My customers were generally respectful, kind and harmless. Of course a creep here and there - again just like the general population. well, i don't want to hijack this thing just thought i would chime in. Not sure we are changing anyone's opinions on here but it is an interesting thread thanks OP!

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Anonymous wrote:A while back, I asked the original poster if she had even considered being a webcam girl and didn't get an answer.

I thought it was a reason able question. They can work from a studio or home, so it would be safer. They can make a ton of money, depending upon what they are willing to do and how many hours they are willing to work.

They can set their own hours.

Webcam girls come in all shapes, sizes, and ages. Many much older than the OP are doing quite well.

Countries, and areas within a country can be blocked, to keep people that you don't want to know what you are doing from finding out online. Seems like it would be easier to protect your identity than if stripping in a club.

Also, there are webcam girls that dance and make good money while probably showing less skin than OP does.

Sorry I overlooked that question.

No, I'm not interested in becoming a webcam girl. I don't even know what that is, but I imagine it would involve my computer and my home. So...not interested.

Why do you have such a high opinion of yourself?

Why shouldn't she? And what does that have to do with webcam stripping versus strip club stripping?

Her whole attitude is "I am above prostitution" "I am above using my home" "I don't want to see erect penises"

So you think op shouldn't have a right to set boundaries?

She takes her clothes off for strangers for money, having boundaries at this point is vital and empowering to her.

Fixed that for you!

How is it empowering? She shows men her naked body, but won't have sex with them. Excellent boundary there.

Um, yeah, it is. How is it that you don't see that? The men coming in know those are the rules, she's reaffirming it in her stance and answers here, she's making money (more than a lot of us) by doing so. In my mind, as long as she's cool with it, that equals empowering and having boundaries.

Would you encourage your dd to do it?

Utterly irrelevant. The only person's whose perspective matters is OP and her body, no one else's. Whether anyone would encourage their daughter to become a stripper is an entirely different conversation as to whether or not strippers have the right to set boundaries for themselves, and in this case, whether OP has the right to set personal boundaries for herself while at work.

I did read the thread, and she said it had set her back, though she's still working on it in therapy.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I see there's a poster who doesn't think I have the right to set boundaries - it's that mentality that leads to the rape and killing of women. Very upsetting. You win PP!

The point is that she's selling her self/body for money which really makes her no better than a hooker. It's all a part of the same industry:sex.

And stop the madness. There is nothing empowering to women about a woman who takes her clothes off for male enjoyment, as if she's a zoo animal.

An empowered female would draw the line at selling her body for a dollar.

If she was so empowered there would be no shame or secrecy in her actions.

Needing to have someone walk you to your car at the end of the night because your profession is wrought with so much strife is NOT empowering. Clearly it's harmful, scary and unsafe.

Spin all you'd like sister.

You know that many, if not most, of the women on DCUM married for money. Get over yourself PP.

Anonymous wrote:OP, you mentioned that this work has set you back in your progress in dealing with your sexual abuse as a child. That is the concern I have for you, and for any woman who does this. I think it's ultimately harmful to you to offer yourself as a piece of meat for men to devour, even if it's just with their eyes. I've worked closely with sex addicts, who make up a good portion of strip club regulars, and the way they look at women is as specific body parts, exactly the way we look at a steak. The problem with this is that while the steak is no longer attached to a living being, your body parts are. So you are continuing to allow yourself to be dehumanized by men. Your rationale is very sensible--it's good money. But I do think the cost is very great for you, more than you currently can see. I wish you the best.

I'm not the OP but if you read the entire thread she said that stripping has actually helped her come to terms with the childhood sexual abuse.

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I'm pretty sure all men see women as a collection of body parts to a degree. It's a normal part of me sexuality.

OP, you mentioned that this work has set you back in your progress in dealing with your sexual abuse as a child. That is the concern I have for you, and for any woman who does this. I think it's ultimately harmful to you to offer yourself as a piece of meat for men to devour, even if it's just with their eyes. I've worked closely with sex addicts, who make up a good portion of strip club regulars, and the way they look at women is as specific body parts, exactly the way we look at a steak. The problem with this is that while the steak is no longer attached to a living being, your body parts are. So you are continuing to allow yourself to be dehumanized by men. Your rationale is very sensible--it's good money. But I do think the cost is very great for you, more than you currently can see. I wish you the best.

Seriously, why is it hard to believe that all strippers are not also prostitutes? Do you think all swimsuit models are also prostitutes? How about actresses who do nude roles? Just because someone shows their body for money does not mean they are having sex for money.

Anonymous wrote:I'm the PP. Has anyone asked how the club prevents people from taking cell phone photos and videos?

Yes, the OP has answered that question.

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Anonymous wrote:I know you don't do it, but can you give us any advice on how one of us may succeed in hooking up with a stripper? Is there a particular technique that could result in getting a stripper to join a client in a hotel after work? Any insight is appreciated.

Most women I work with do not/ would not date the men who come in. Sorry, I don't have any advice for you.

There are multiple websites devoted to help strippers "land" a rich man, including how to get money out of them, get them to pay rent, etc. Its a huge part of strippers side work. Perhaps dating is the wrong word. OP being deliberately obtuse and coy about what "those other" strippers do is getting old.

If there are multiple such websites, then there is no need to ask the OP for the OP's advice on how to do something that the OP does not do.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - thank you all for defending me against the creepy, misogynistic troll!

Everyone who disagrees with you is not a troll dear.
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PS a stripper has no moral authority to call other people creepy

Don't you see how you continue to dehumanizing Op? She's not allowed to have boundaries. She's not allowed to call out the person that thinks she should allow her body to be violated. She's just a nothing, not a fellow human. Let's dehumanize all sex workers, let them all rot. Obviously they're worth nothing, they have no morals or value.

This is what your words actually say.

The words actually say that pots should not call kettles black