Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This makes me think two things:

1) They should have been deported long before they had kids and settled down.
2) We need to remove birthright citizenship.

Because it's great for a country to have a large group of people who are native to the country but have no right to live there?

And this has what to do with MCPS, exactly?

Anonymous wrote:

This makes me think two things:

1) They should have been deported long before they had kids and settled down.
2) We need to remove birthright citizenship.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
pp, think about what you wrote. Then this week, go early and drop your kid off at school and watch the student body and parents.
Do the kids or parents or teachers look like they give a damn? If not, then start squawking. You are getting railroaded by a poorly performing school that is probably focusing mainly on the troublemakers, apathetic kids and ESOLs.
Demand tracking and attention for your middle class kid. Just the fact that you're on dcum regarding this topic means you care. Do something more. Ask questions. Ask the school what it is doing for your middle class kid? Take the answer and call the press. The press is all over what generous MoCo is doing for illegals (special testing, special counseling, special meals, special English classes); go tell the press what most of MoCo does for a middle class, legal, net tax-paying family. Go tell presidential candidate O'Malley what his agenda has done to middle class kids in one of the largest counties in the country.

Yeah, no. My situation is not what you assume it is.

Also, the kids you call "illegals", I call "US citizens".

How do you know the actual citizenship of your school's students? Is this published somewhere? There are a ton of Central American kids who showed up in MoCo between the ages of 4-18. They are not U.S. citizens, nor are their parents. Furthermore, most entered the country illegally or overstayed their 90 day tourist visa thus are here illegally and undocumented. Marrying a US citizen Hispanic is a well-used loophole to overstaying your 90 days and filling for a greencar. Casa de Maryland lawyers can help you file your "Oops, I got married while a tourist" spousal greencard app.

I'll ask you the same question.

Also, I'll repost the link from earlier in the thread:

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2014/09/03/as-growth-stalls-unauthorized-immigrant-population-becomes-more-settled/

About 40% of adults who are unauthorized immigrants live with their US-born children.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
pp, think about what you wrote. Then this week, go early and drop your kid off at school and watch the student body and parents.
Do the kids or parents or teachers look like they give a damn? If not, then start squawking. You are getting railroaded by a poorly performing school that is probably focusing mainly on the troublemakers, apathetic kids and ESOLs.
Demand tracking and attention for your middle class kid. Just the fact that you're on dcum regarding this topic means you care. Do something more. Ask questions. Ask the school what it is doing for your middle class kid? Take the answer and call the press. The press is all over what generous MoCo is doing for illegals (special testing, special counseling, special meals, special English classes); go tell the press what most of MoCo does for a middle class, legal, net tax-paying family. Go tell presidential candidate O'Malley what his agenda has done to middle class kids in one of the largest counties in the country.

Yeah, no. My situation is not what you assume it is.

Also, the kids you call "illegals", I call "US citizens".

How do you know the actual citizenship of your school's students? Is this published somewhere? There are a ton of Central American kids who showed up in MoCo between the ages of 4-18. They are not U.S. citizens, nor are their parents. Furthermore, most entered the country illegally or overstayed their 90 day tourist visa thus are here illegally and undocumented. Marrying a US citizen Hispanic is a well-used loophole to overstaying your 90 days and filling for a greencar. Casa de Maryland lawyers can help you file your "Oops, I got married while a tourist" spousal greencard app.

Anonymous wrote:What's the big deal about redrawing school boundaries to increase diversity? Or busing? Or really anything that the school district could do to lessen the segregation of the schools? Is your expensive house really going to suddenly drastically drop in value? Should it matter if the market value of your house does drop? Will it lead to massive white flight to... somewhere else? I just really don't think it would be that big of a deal to have the schools become a little more reflective of the socioeconomic and racial diversity of our area. As some posters have pointed out, their schools already are diverse. I'm sure the sky wouldn't fall if more schools were like those. Honestly, who doesn't value and benefit from a diverse student population?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
pp, think about what you wrote. Then this week, go early and drop your kid off at school and watch the student body and parents.
Do the kids or parents or teachers look like they give a damn? If not, then start squawking. You are getting railroaded by a poorly performing school that is probably focusing mainly on the troublemakers, apathetic kids and ESOLs.
Demand tracking and attention for your middle class kid. Just the fact that you're on dcum regarding this topic means you care. Do something more. Ask questions. Ask the school what it is doing for your middle class kid? Take the answer and call the press. The press is all over what generous MoCo is doing for illegals (special testing, special counseling, special meals, special English classes); go tell the press what most of MoCo does for a middle class, legal, net tax-paying family. Go tell presidential candidate O'Malley what his agenda has done to middle class kids in one of the largest counties in the country.

Yeah, no. My situation is not what you assume it is.

Also, the kids you call "illegals", I call "US citizens".

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
pp, think about what you wrote. Then this week, go early and drop your kid off at school and watch the student body and parents.
Do the kids or parents or teachers look like they give a damn? If not, then start squawking. You are getting railroaded by a poorly performing school that is probably focusing mainly on the troublemakers, apathetic kids and ESOLs.
Demand tracking and attention for your middle class kid. Just the fact that you're on dcum regarding this topic means you care. Do something more. Ask questions. Ask the school what it is doing for your middle class kid? Take the answer and call the press. The press is all over what generous MoCo is doing for illegals (special testing, special counseling, special meals, special English classes); go tell the press what most of MoCo does for a middle class, legal, net tax-paying family. Go tell presidential candidate O'Malley what his agenda has done to middle class kids in one of the largest counties in the country.

Yeah, no. My situation is not what you assume it is.

Also, the kids you call "illegals", I call "US citizens".

Anonymous wrote:

A policy of personal responsibility and accountability might change uninvolved parents' behavior. But continued policies of enabling and excuses will not. Since Maryland is a socially and fiscally liberal state, it will continue more of the same, the latter. Generational government dependency.

Anonymous wrote:
pp, think about what you wrote. Then this week, go early and drop your kid off at school and watch the student body and parents.
Do the kids or parents or teachers look like they give a damn? If not, then start squawking. You are getting railroaded by a poorly performing school that is probably focusing mainly on the troublemakers, apathetic kids and ESOLs.
Demand tracking and attention for your middle class kid. Just the fact that you're on dcum regarding this topic means you care. Do something more. Ask questions. Ask the school what it is doing for your middle class kid? Take the answer and call the press. The press is all over what generous MoCo is doing for illegals (special testing, special counseling, special meals, special English classes); go tell the press what most of MoCo does for a middle class, legal, net tax-paying family. Go tell presidential candidate O'Malley what his agenda has done to middle class kids in one of the largest counties in the country.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1

I come from a lower SES background, and one thing you don't find, and that is often echoed by other poster who come from a similar background is that higher SES parents are moe involved in their schools. Often ridiculously so.

If everyone that was of a lower SES started demanding more of their schools more would happen.

Yes, if everyone with a lower SES behaved more like people with a high SES, then the schools wouldn't have the problems that go with having lots of students with low-SES parents. That kind of goes without saying. It's not a policy solution, though. Unless you think that, "Hey! Poors! Start behaving more like affluent people!" is a policy solution?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1

I come from a lower SES background, and one thing you don't find, and that is often echoed by other poster who come from a similar background is that higher SES parents are moe involved in their schools. Often ridiculously so.

If everyone that was of a lower SES started demanding more of their schools more would happen.

Yes, if everyone with a lower SES behaved more like people with a high SES, then the schools wouldn't have the problems that go with having lots of students with low-SES parents. That kind of goes without saying. It's not a policy solution, though. Unless you think that, "Hey! Poors! Start behaving more like affluent people!" is a policy solution?

Anonymous wrote:Instead of suggestions about 2 hour bus commutes a day, razing neighborhoods inside the Beltway in order to build subsidized middle class housing, forcing school integration by income, and attacking educated white collar families, how about focusing on something easier, more likely to happen and that can have a real impact: IMPROVING YOUR OWN SCHOOL. Get involved. Work from within. Complain and report class disruptions. Sit in on your kids’ class. Demand accountability from your teacher and principal. Know where your tax dollars are going. Get to know other parents. Raise your expectations. Demand tracking for high performers. Be noisy at the school, not on DCUM. Look how noisy Casa de Maryland is for all the Hispanics, legal or illegal. Get going!!!

Seriously, if you pay federal, Maryland state and MoCo county income tax, property tax, gas tax, sales tax then YOU fund the MCPS, state and county budget. Demand a well-functioning neighborhood school.