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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason my children will never be in aftercare, they will never marry children of divorced parents.

Oh, you just wait bitch.

Your son will marry a whore, and your daughter will find the most repulsive man who grew up in a divorced household.

LMFAO!

You can't control your kids into adulthood. If they don't hate you now, they will soon enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you feel stupid now that you've read the rest of the page?

Anonymous wrote:I was just talking to a SAHM of teens (she teaches rec center classes during school hours) and she told me that she actually feels it's more important for her to be a SAHM now than it was when her kids were my age (2 and 3). I really hope we can continue to afford me SAH as the kids get older. I have a PhD, so maybe I can find some part-time flexible consulting work for during school hours.

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Anonymous wrote:This has been covered before. Some folks have to work full time and don't really have a choice. .

Sure they do. Downsize, downsize, downsize. You don't need to live in a 3,000 sq ft place, hire help for cleaning and yardwork, wear the best clothes, have an iPhone5, drive an SUV with only one or two kids, use coupons and shop the specials. Cook more, go out to eat once a month or less.

It can easily be done, even in this area. But people here are too set on keeping up their extravagant lifestyles.

Priorities.

Okay, troll. Fine.

My apartment is about 750 square feet. It has one bedroom and a tiny den that is my 4yo DD's bedroom. Her room doesn't have any windows and isn't big enough for a fullsized bed, so she'll be in a toddler sized bed until I can afford to move. I do my own cleaning and don't have a yard. The last time I went shopping was about 2 years ago, when I finally lost the last of the baby weight - that shopping trip happened at Target. I don't have an iPhone at all, much less the latest version, and I don't have a car. We go out to eat once a week, but there are only two of us, so the bill is never more than about $30. I cook everything else at home, including lunch for myself and DD.

But the thing is, I'm a single parent with little support from my daughter's dad. If I only work from 8am until 3pm, given that I'm an hourly employee, I will only bring home 80% of my full time salary, which won't be enough to cover our living expenses, even if you eliminate those extravagant $30 dinners on Friday nights. I suppose I could move further out of the city, but given that my job is downtown, any increase in commute will increase the amount of time my DD spends in aftercare.

I'm really curious as to what you'd expect someone like me to to do to avoid the aftercare programs you think are so "cruel". I'm already doing everything I can.

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Anonymous wrote:I was raised by two full-time working parents. Mom put in 40 hrs/week M-F and spent 2.5 years working all day Saturdays while she wrote a book and we had movie day with Dad. I'm a 4th generation working mom and I LOVED my childhood. If you're assuming your kids will spend all of the after school hours missing you, you probably didn't have a working mom, right? Or you didn't have many friends as a child? Those of us who actually grew up as the children of these kinds of mothers know how wonderful a family life can be with two working parents. I choose to work because I know it's best, not just for our bank account, but for my child. If you doubt that, then go for a different decision. That's fine and I'm sure that can work out great too. But you're making a straw man argument - the notion that daycare harms kids was debunked in the 80s. If you want to keep arguing it, feel free but there's no evidence to back you up.

And I was raised by two working parents as well. Spent my summers and after schools in daycare- and I wanted nothing more than to spend my summers running around the neighborhood with the rest of my friends, playing in the woods alone with no adults in sight, biking, etc. or just come home and have freshly made cookies by mom, time to veg out alone, etc. The type of childhood people always dream of. Sure, I had fun at camps and no I was not permanently damaged, but I really longed for that classic, carefree childhood.

Anonymous wrote:Children of divorce are just not good marriage candidates. My children know and understand this so they will not marry such tarnished offspring.

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Anonymous wrote:For the same reason my children will never be in aftercare, they will never marry children of divorced parents.

Oh, you just wait bitch.

Your son will marry a whore, and your daughter will find the most repulsive man who grew up in a divorced household.

LMFAO!

You can't control your kids into adulthood. If they don't hate you now, they will soon enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous wrote:For the same reason my children will never be in aftercare, they will never marry children of divorced parents.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just talking to a SAHM of teens (she teaches rec center classes during school hours) and she told me that she actually feels it's more important for her to be a SAHM now than it was when her kids were my age (2 and 3). I really hope we can continue to afford me SAH as the kids get older. I have a PhD, so maybe I can find some part-time flexible consulting work for during school hours.

that

Why'd you get the Ph.D if you were going to SAH? What was the point?

Anonymous wrote:For the same reason my children will never be in aftercare, they will never marry children of divorced parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Working moms always want to hear how progressive and educated they are and how they are providing and setting a good example for their children not to rely on a man for $.

In reality though: working moms bewilder me. When you consider the thought people put into getting a dog for example- whether the dog will have space to run, enough time for walks, enough time to spend with it each day. It's sad to see that people don't put this forethought into bringing an actual human being into the world. If you are having children to put them in daycare, aftercare, whatever, then you're showing that your child that your priority is your job, your career, your happiness and your poor child is less than a dog. I'm sorry if you don't want to hear this.

I'll have you know I crate trained my child. I admit I had a terrible time getting her not to jump up on strangers, but we finally got it once I employed the squirt bottle.

My dog, on the other hand, adores his doggy day care. He also does Kumon on weekends. I'm pretty sure he's going to make it into AAP.

No swim team? No violin lessons? Why don't you love your dog?

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Anonymous wrote:Working moms always want to hear how progressive and educated they are and how they are providing and setting a good example for their children not to rely on a man for $.

In reality though: working moms bewilder me. When you consider the thought people put into getting a dog for example- whether the dog will have space to run, enough time for walks, enough time to spend with it each day. It's sad to see that people don't put this forethought into bringing an actual human being into the world. If you are having children to put them in daycare, aftercare, whatever, then you're showing that your child that your priority is your job, your career, your happiness and your poor child is less than a dog. I'm sorry if you don't want to hear this.

I'll have you know I crate trained my child. I admit I had a terrible time getting her not to jump up on strangers, but we finally got it once I employed the squirt bottle.

My dog, on the other hand, adores his doggy day care. He also does Kumon on weekends. I'm pretty sure he's going to make it into AAP.