Anonymous wrote:Really? It's for poors? Someone needs to tell Martha Stewart.

http://www.marthastewart.com/264904/backyard-chickens-for-beginners

Don't you love it when some idiot discovers an old thread and resurrects it?

Yes, it's for the poors. Did you really just hold Martha Stewart up as a barometer of taste or something? I mean, the woman is 70 years old, so I guess I can see how she might still be confusing the way she did things in the 1940s and 1950s as sophisticated or in good taste.

As for the idiot posting the poultry pictures, so what? They're animals. That we eat. Who cares?

Really? It's for poors? Someone needs to tell Martha Stewart.

http://www.marthastewart.com/264904/backyard-chickens-for-beginners

Anonymous wrote:Why would you want chickens?

Eeewww. Chickenshit everywhere. Screams, "I am poor."

What are you going to do when they stop laying eggs in a few years? Stew 'em?

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Anonymous wrote:Back in the day, having to keep chickens on your property was a sign of poverty and was a source of shame.

Just saying.

Those days are over.

Just saying.

No, not really. We live in a global economy with sophisticated supply chains and robust markets. Eggs are affordable and easily found at any grocery store. So, yeah, if you have chickens, I figure you're either poor or ironic to the point of appearing foolish.

Food for Thought:

"In the wild, chickens like to dust-bathe, turkeys fly considerable distances, and ducks spend most of their lives on water.

But in poultry farms, thousands are crammed together in dark sheds, unable to express their natural instincts. They are forced to stand and lie down in their own waste, as the litter on the barn floor is never changed."

Your: global-economy-with-sophisticated-chains-and-robust-markets-chickens, -turkeys, and -ducks.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Whatever, man. I didn't know this was a thread for "credibility." Credibility for what? This is an exciting backyard adventure! Have you done this for a living? It doesn't sound like it- you must be such the expert if you have to "take me to your buddies" house to show me how its done. Umm, no thanks. And I think you confusing aggressiveness in all chickens with what BREED. Yes, some are raised as fighting chickens, some for meat, some for egg producers, ect. Anyone can look that up. I don't need to "talk to people" to realize you have no idea what you're talking about. Egg shell comment is ignorant. Some lay brown, white and shades of the two. There is Amercauna "easter eggers" that lays colors, but tiny green? Bantams/easter egger chicken? Yeah, never heard of that one. I don't care what the numbers are, I have the $$.
BUT I'm learning as I go and I'll have to make real sure I don't accidentally mail order me up of some of those tiny, green-egged, man-eating, devil chickens, ok? Thanks for the heads up.
Now, please bug off.

Ah! I realize this was posted nearly a year ago, but OP, you are my hero! I have really been enjoying your conversations with the ignoramuses. This is keeping me up WAY too late, tomorrow is going to be a rough day!

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I DON'T know your neighbors, and you made it clear in your subject line that you are concerned about how your neighbors will perceive you.

They will judge you, detest you, and at worst, think you are poor. They will not, however, think your hobby is cute.

I realize you want everyone to say, "hey, cool!" But that's not going to happen.

Your first instinct was that maybe this might tick off your neighbors. I say, listen to your first instinct.

So as between being judged, detested, and thought of as poor, the worst thing woudl be to be thought of as poor? Worse than being hated?

Lady, you are cracked. (Or you don't have a very good grasp of the English language. Are you the "please don't use big words, they make my brain hurt" poster?)

"They will judge you, detest you, and at worst, think you are poor" Oh, the HORROR!

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, no plans on eating the chickens but will love me some fresh, organic eggs that I KNOW are organic because I raised them. I think it's cool that they will free range in plenty of space and my child will learn about something unique and have a neat experience. For me it's a hobby and something I want to do. I'm really not surprised by some comments that chickens are "gross" and you can catch "xyz"-all of which are hilarious to me. Ignorance.

If you are managing the chicken coop well and don't have way too many chickens they shouldn't smell at all.If you smell chickens, you smell mis-management. To the PP above, if your FIL had secured his coop with proper chicken wire and a protected run that should not have occurred really. But there are predators out there just as alligators prey on people's little dogs is southern states. I don't think that means they shouldn't have dogs anymore. They should protect their pets.

In my experience here, people have a negative connotation associated with chickens. Last time I brought it up to someone they exclaimed, "Oh if that's something YOU'RE into, then good for you" in a condescending tone. I really wish people were more open-minded. We are not poor, quite the contrary

Then, one poster here has chickens?! I wonder if my neighbors will be opposed so they are not associated with "the chickens next door"? Hmmm

If you want fresh, organic eggs, order them from South Mountain Creamery.

You are seriously a fool. Why you would subject your neighbors to your foolishness is beyond me. I mean, are deliberately setting out to erode property values or something?

Op here. Nice promo and no thanks. How do you know my neighbor does not have chickens and I'm curious how an immaculately maintained 1/2 acre with a nice garden and landscaping is eroding property value? You would not be able to hear or see the chickens unless you are sitting in my backyard petting one.

You really miss the point. Raising chickens is an activity for the poors. It's the last step before total destitution. It says, "I cannot afford to buy eggs at the grocery store, so I'm going to try to collect my own and sell the extras." So, the appearance of chickens in any established neighborhood immediately downgrades the neighborhood quality. There is a STIGMA attached to this activity. You might as well put your beater up on cinder blocks in the front yard or something.

Now, don't get me wrong. Maybe you ARE having some difficulty with your finances. I'm sympathetic if you are. But, if that's the case, maybe you are stretching too far to buy the house and maybe you cannot afford the neighborhood? Something to think about.

OP here and I had no idea this would cause so much discussion about class. There are many people out there who don't agree with your gross generalizations. I buy eggs in bulk at Costco or Sams if I need them. I already own a house, I don't need to buy and I don't do this for mere necessity. If you read any of the earlier posts-you'd see I'm doing this as a HOBBY. I could totally care less if owning a couple chickens is an "activity for the poor" in your eyes. Again, how do you know my neighbors? Your rationalization doesn't make any sense and it brings to light the judgmental person you are. For this, I feel sorry for YOU.

Wow 'anonymous claiming chickens are activities for the poors'....you are a first rate es en oh bee. SNOB. It is not flattering.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, no plans on eating the chickens but will love me some fresh, organic eggs that I KNOW are organic because I raised them. I think it's cool that they will free range in plenty of space and my child will learn about something unique and have a neat experience. For me it's a hobby and something I want to do. I'm really not surprised by some comments that chickens are "gross" and you can catch "xyz"-all of which are hilarious to me. Ignorance.

If you are managing the chicken coop well and don't have way too many chickens they shouldn't smell at all.If you smell chickens, you smell mis-management. To the PP above, if your FIL had secured his coop with proper chicken wire and a protected run that should not have occurred really. But there are predators out there just as alligators prey on people's little dogs is southern states. I don't think that means they shouldn't have dogs anymore. They should protect their pets.

In my experience here, people have a negative connotation associated with chickens. Last time I brought it up to someone they exclaimed, "Oh if that's something YOU'RE into, then good for you" in a condescending tone. I really wish people were more open-minded. We are not poor, quite the contrary

Then, one poster here has chickens?! I wonder if my neighbors will be opposed so they are not associated with "the chickens next door"? Hmmm

If you want fresh, organic eggs, order them from South Mountain Creamery.

You are seriously a fool. Why you would subject your neighbors to your foolishness is beyond me. I mean, are deliberately setting out to erode property values or something?

Backyard chickens lowers property values = myth. Myth Busters should do an episode on that one.

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Anonymous wrote:Please try to live off your quarter acre land by cutting off all public utilities , raising chickens and planting vegetables so that you will eventually die due to lack of food this competing darwin's cycle of natural selection.

So I guess the Amish have it all wrong then, huh? They sure are dying off at a rapid rate!

The Amish don't live in the city.

What the hell do you know about the Amish, anyway?

I know that they don't use electricity or cars like you and I, and that they survive off locally grown fruits and veggies and their own livestock just fine. And oops...forgive me that this site says "urban." Half these people involved in this convo live in the suburbs which also don't allow backyard livestock. My point: people CAN survive anywhere even if they can't watch Real Housewives or get on the internet...especially if they know HOW.

The Amish also rely on a close-knit community versus someone choosing to live as a hermit or in isolation.

BTW, the Amish may not use electricity, but they do use kerosene and make telephone calls as long as the line is owned by the English. I think some may even use cellular since it's not actually wired into the outside world.

I actually know Amish people. Do you?

I too know that, and that they can drive IN cars but not actually DRIVE them. And they don't wear color clothing, but some less-strict Amish churches/associations/communities do. And Mennonites can wear color and are much more lenient in terms of modern ways of living. I even heard some have fridges because they are powered by solar energy. SCORE for the Amish! They get it. And am I quote, friends with an Amish family, no. Have I met Amish before and conversed? Yes. So congrats, you know more Amish people than I do.

But, I'm not here to argue about who knows the most Amish, and the technicalities of their lives. This is getting off topic. My point is basically, there is a community of people living in our world today, without the conveniences of modern technology, and they aren't dead. They are alive and living and also own their own chickens.

1- people CAN live off the grid and not die
2- Amish was used as an example because they are the best example of those in USA living off the grid who won't be classified as 'poor'
3- many people on this thread, i am willing to bet, live in the COUNTY and therefore are not urban but suburban therefore do not live in the city hence my example of the Amish in the first place.

Sorry I even said Amish. Shit.

And (this made me laugh out loud) just because someone wants chickens and is even willing to live off the grid doesn't mean they are hermits! Try not to judge others so much.

Yes, chickens rock! i had a black one and my sister had a yellow one-mine turned out to be a rooster.
"Chickens sing of poverty".

"So was a tan and being very thin. Keep up with times!"
+1000
That's funny,even I got it.

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Anonymous wrote:Please try to live off your quarter acre land by cutting off all public utilities , raising chickens and planting vegetables so that you will eventually die due to lack of food this competing darwin's cycle of natural selection.

So I guess the Amish have it all wrong then, huh? They sure are dying off at a rapid rate!

The Amish don't live in the city.

What the hell do you know about the Amish, anyway?

I know that they don't use electricity or cars like you and I, and that they survive off locally grown fruits and veggies and their own livestock just fine. And oops...forgive me that this site says "urban." Half these people involved in this convo live in the suburbs which also don't allow backyard livestock. My point: people CAN survive anywhere even if they can't watch Real Housewives or get on the internet...especially if they know HOW.

The Amish also rely on a close-knit community versus someone choosing to live as a hermit or in isolation.

BTW, the Amish may not use electricity, but they do use kerosene and make telephone calls as long as the line is owned by the English. I think some may even use cellular since it's not actually wired into the outside world.

I actually know Amish people. Do you?

Psssst.... http://www.today.com/video/today/42532056#42532056

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Anonymous wrote:Please try to live off your quarter acre land by cutting off all public utilities , raising chickens and planting vegetables so that you will eventually die due to lack of food this competing darwin's cycle of natural selection.

So I guess the Amish have it all wrong then, huh? They sure are dying off at a rapid rate!

The Amish don't live in the city.

What the hell do you know about the Amish, anyway?

I know that they don't use electricity or cars like you and I, and that they survive off locally grown fruits and veggies and their own livestock just fine. And oops...forgive me that this site says "urban." Half these people involved in this convo live in the suburbs which also don't allow backyard livestock. My point: people CAN survive anywhere even if they can't watch Real Housewives or get on the internet...especially if they know HOW.

Anonymous wrote:I will run over your chickens

OMG. That is disturbing! I guess you will do the same to cats and dogs...and kids chasing after a ball in the street? Yikes. Luckily for us chicken owners we are smart enough to keep our chickens OUT of the road... They don't cross the street 'round these parts.

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Anonymous wrote:Please try to live off your quarter acre land by cutting off all public utilities , raising chickens and planting vegetables so that you will eventually die due to lack of food this competing darwin's cycle of natural selection.

So I guess the Amish have it all wrong then, huh? They sure are dying off at a rapid rate!

The Amish don't live in the city.

What the hell do you know about the Amish, anyway?