She wasn't always ON our team. That's the difference. So the camaraderie among WOHMs was already built. When you've been in the workforce all that time - w/o stepping out - you see things differently.

I've seen so many SAHMs throw themselves into school activities - running the auction, becoming volunteer coordinator, assisting with lunch duty. I've always said that if they could take that energy and put it into a job, they'd become CEOs in no time. So many substitute volunteering for work. why? It's a way to shine w/o the pressure of really performing. It's also an excuse to NOT work b/c you're so instrumental in ensuring your child's school is run well.

Anonymous wrote:When you are offended (or making the choice to feel insulted) by a SAHM who says quite honestly "I stayed at home to raise my kids" then YOU are creating the controversy where there is none!

I totally agree with the WOHMs who advise SAHMs not to talk on and on about their kids in an interview. Fair point. But, to assume a judgment or insult from someone who is talking about HER own choices... well, that's just making it all about you when it's not about you.

I have been asked several times in different interviews "how old are your kids." They know I have kids b/c of the gap and my explanation of what I was doing. The interviewers are the ones trying to bring in more info. about the kids.... and then they are subtly calculating if the kids still young and going to cause a problem for the employer.

If a person says she decided to stay home and take care of her kids it is NOT the same thing as judging all WOHMs for not taking care of their kids. It's not about the the WOHM!

Lastly, you would think that a person who WOH, would be thrilled to see the arch-enemy (SAHM) trying to follow in the WOHM's footsteps! Here is a person from the "opposing" team trying to join your team, and all you can do is insult the person who wants to join your team???? You insult the SAHMs for staying at home, but when they try to be WOHMs you want to kick them back into their corner (which you sarcastically deride).

Seriously. Think about your logic if you are one of the WOHMs who is slamming on the SAHMs trying to get jobs. And try to let go of the perceived attacks, b/c I've never heard SAHMs insulting WOHMs in real life. Ever.

Oh really ? You've never heard a SAHM say to a WOHM at preschool dropoff, "It must be so hard to work when you have small children"? My response was, "No, actually, it's not because I'm high energy and organized."

When you are offended (or making the choice to feel insulted) by a SAHM who says quite honestly "I stayed at home to raise my kids" then YOU are creating the controversy where there is none!

I totally agree with the WOHMs who advise SAHMs not to talk on and on about their kids in an interview. Fair point. But, to assume a judgment or insult from someone who is talking about HER own choices... well, that's just making it all about you when it's not about you.

I have been asked several times in different interviews "how old are your kids." They know I have kids b/c of the gap and my explanation of what I was doing. The interviewers are the ones trying to bring in more info. about the kids.... and then they are subtly calculating if the kids still young and going to cause a problem for the employer.

If a person says she decided to stay home and take care of her kids it is NOT the same thing as judging all WOHMs for not taking care of their kids. It's not about the the WOHM!

Lastly, you would think that a person who WOH, would be thrilled to see the arch-enemy (SAHM) trying to follow in the WOHM's footsteps! Here is a person from the "opposing" team trying to join your team, and all you can do is insult the person who wants to join your team???? You insult the SAHMs for staying at home, but when they try to be WOHMs you want to kick them back into their corner (which you sarcastically deride).

Seriously. Think about your logic if you are one of the WOHMs who is slamming on the SAHMs trying to get jobs. And try to let go of the perceived attacks, b/c I've never heard SAHMs insulting WOHMs in real life. Ever.

Come on guys. Why the hate. We all love out kids . I am a SAHM with huge gaps in my resume. I love that I stayed home, but wish I kept my hand in the pot. I have a lot of respect for parents who get up and get everyone out the door at an early hour. And working moms have a lot of respect for me when I can them out with their kids.
The fifty and over forum has some interesting insights.
Let's be confident with our choices. Let's teach our kids how to work together.

"You don't get extra special super duper bonus points in a job interview for staying at home with your children. "

Or any place else. It's a preference or a choice. That's it.

Anonymous wrote:you bitter bitches still bickering?

Said the metrosexual

Anonymous wrote:you bitter bitches still bickering?

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

you bitter bitches still bickering?

Anonymous wrote:The contempt on this thread for SAHM isn't even funny.

I think you are missing some of the very valuable advice offered.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The contempt on this thread for SAHM isn't even funny.

You must have missed all the "WOHM don't love their children enough if they put them in daycare" threads. Yeah, I'll admit it. That thread put me over the edge and so now, when these threads come up, I try (and fail) to hold my tongue. The finger pointing by many SAHMs that WOHM are inferior is so awful because it's being judgmental about their love for their children. That's what they're saying. They're saying WOHMs don't raise their children. In these threads, all that's being said "you are going to have a hard time getting a job if you talk about your kids during an interview." That's all. What's being said is "no one else loves your children like you do. Keep it out of the professional interview process." Why is that such a bad thing and why does that amount to contempt for SAHMs? You don't get extra special super duper bonus points in a job interview for staying at home with your children.

Oops - someone said the same thing above me. Didn't see it before posting. Sorry for the duplicate point.

Anonymous wrote:The contempt on this thread for SAHM isn't even funny.

You must have missed all the "WOHM don't love their children enough if they put them in daycare" threads. Yeah, I'll admit it. That thread put me over the edge and so now, when these threads come up, I try (and fail) to hold my tongue. The finger pointing by many SAHMs that WOHM are inferior is so awful because it's being judgmental about their love for their children. That's what they're saying. They're saying WOHMs don't raise their children. In these threads, all that's being said "you are going to have a hard time getting a job if you talk about your kids during an interview." That's all. What's being said is "no one else loves your children like you do. Keep it out of the professional interview process." Why is that such a bad thing and why does that amount to contempt for SAHMs? You don't get extra special super duper bonus points in a job interview for staying at home with your children.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised so many of you are actually bringing in SAHMs for interviews.

They're usually connected and/or the interview is a favor. 8)

Yes

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The contempt on this thread for SAHM isn't even funny.

It was kind of funny at first (boy, they really touch a nerve don't they?), but it's getting tiresome.

Now you know how the WOHMs feel about the condescending attitude from the SAHMs with talk about parents who don't raise their kids and ask why people had kids if they were only going to dump them in daycare. Yes, it gets old. Both sides need to start relaxing their guard and be nice to each other. Unfortunately, from recent trends and the nature of anonymous boards, this probably won't happen anytime soon. People feel free to let loose and be nastier under anonymity than they would if they had to see the other side face-to-face.

Anonymous wrote:The contempt on this thread for SAHM isn't even funny.

It was kind of funny at first (boy, they really touch a nerve don't they?), but it's getting tiresome.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's true. All SAHM stay home for 10 or more years, get handed interviews on a silver platter as favors to friends, then go in there and go on and on about their children. They have no professional skills and don't really want to WOH! You got it all figured out! Poor, silly SAHMs.

That is exactly why the WOH moms are so jealous.