Anonymous wrote:Another thread devolving into the party politics bickering while this is a bipartisan issue. Yes, it is bad, this program needs to end, plain and simple. Outsourcing also has to be limited and/or taxed to support American economy. It's really not a republican vs. democrat issue.
Anonymous wrote:We will not shut up about the fact that at the same time as Meta is laying off thousands of people
They are sponsoring hundreds of green cards for jobs as simple as - fully remote Content Designer
End American Immigration Replacement today
And Democrats, the party of labor , do NOTHING!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I've worked in the tech industry for 20+ years, and I've seen H1s flood the industry, and more and more jobs offshored, so I know a bit about this whole situation.
But, your attitude really scares me. It reminds me of how Germans tolerated the evil that his Hitler because at least they had jobs. Just how much evil are you willing to accept for your job? People like you are willing to sell their souls to the devil for a job. If there was an apocalypse, people like you would be the ones to eat a baby because you were starving.
Trump and people like you have shown me that our civilization is just a veneer, that underneath this "great America", it's full of racist, selfish aholes who would support someone like Hitler if it meant that they could have a job and nice things.
In a few more years Americans are going to be stating the government got bought and paid for by the South Asian scam pipeline replacing American high tech workers with South Asians.
Don't you get it, or are you stupid? These are not good people. They don't give a rat's ass Americans are losing their livelihoods due to a SCAM pipeline extending from India to the U.S. government to Human Resources personnel. It's not even about the company's saving money. It's all about greasing palms and corruption.
So.. let me understand... you acknowledge that the system and people are corrupt, greedy, people greasing palms, but then you go support a corrupt, greedy, evil leader (Trump) who is all about having people grease his palm? Because you like what he says even though not so behind the scene he is corrupt, greedy, evil and expecting to have his palm greased?
MAGA logic.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone still believes mass immigration is a net positive for any native people. Ask the American Indian. Ask the Palestinian.
Astonishing you can say this with a straight face.
ask Trump - both wives who are immigrants, including one whose family came on a chain migration, and whose mother was also an immigrant
ask Vance - wife's family are immigrants
ask Rubio - family were immigrants
ask Miller - family were refugees
Trump hired foreigners at cheaper wages. How does that benefit people born here?
It doesn't. Don't be addicted to cheap labor
It's not always cheaper labor.
In many (I would argue the majority), Americans are willing to take these jobs but they are not even considered at any price due to the ethnic nepotism practiced by Indian hiring managers.
I mean, Trump hired H2 white eastern european foreign workers over local black floridians.
show us a SINGLE democrat advocating to restrict H2 visas?
a SINGLE democrat ???????
Show me what Trump has done about H2s? Here, I'll show you:
Trump increases visa:
first term:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-brings-in-15000-more-temporary-workers-this-year/
second term:
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-administration-will-add-roughly-65000-seasonal-guest-worker-visas-2026-2026-01-30/
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-seasonal-visa-reversal-breaks-from-foreign-labor-crackdown
Employer groups made an intense push after the government signaled at the end of 2025 it would release only 35,000 additional H-2B visas for the coming year, cutting nearly half the number available over the past three years. Their efforts culminated in the Labor and Homeland Security departments this month authorizing more than 64,000 additional H-2B visas—nearly doubling the annual number available by statute.
I'm sure they greased Trump's palm.
Trump picks eastern european foreign workers over Americans
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers
Who's your saviour now?
we know republicans are evil.
but Democrats used to be the party of labor but have abandoned US workers, YET STILL CLAIM THEY WANT TO HELP US WORKERS!!!!!
show a single Democrat that advocates to reduce H2 visas?
meanwhile. the evil party is ...
Two complementary bills now pending would deliver what executive action cannot. In the House, Rep. Eli Crane's End H-1B Visa Abuse Act (H.R. 8443) pauses new H-1B issuance for three years, then permanently cuts the cap to 25,000 and imposes a real labor-market test on every petition. In the Senate, Sen. Tom Cotton's Visa Cap Enforcement Act (S. 2941) closes the loopholes that let hundreds of thousands of additional foreign workers slip past the 65,000 statutory cap each year. Together, they address both the size of the program and the loopholes that inflate it well beyond what Congress originally authorized.
Send a message to your U.S. Representative urging him/her to support and pass H.R. 8443, the End H-1B Visa Abuse Act, and to your U.S. Senators urging them to support and pass S. 2941, the Visa Cap Enforcement Act.
This is all great, but even if this passes, available jobs for American citizens are unlikely to increase without also targeting outsourcing. Every major fortune 500 company has an offshore outlet or a contract with a big offshore bodyshop to provide labor that could be done by our grads easily in the USA. The number of these positions across all the companies is enormous. Right now there is zero penalty or any type of tax for our corporations to offshore the entire departments if they wanted to. It's time to tax this sh*t. I don't see how these extra profits are trickling down to us.
The US relies on H2 foreign workers to work on farms. There is no way American workers will work those jobs. And before someone says, "Well, if they pay enough they will." Think things through. Business 101... labor is the most expensive part of the cost of goods/services for a company.
Unlike the service jobs at Trump's hotels where Americans really did want to work there, but they were the wrong skin color.
There's not a labor shortage, there's a livable wage shortage.
If your business can't pay a livable wage, then your business is a failure. That's how capitalism works.
If you base your business on workers who aren't making a living wage because as illegal immigrants, they have no rights or are afraid to assert them, that's a bad business plan.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone still believes mass immigration is a net positive for any native people. Ask the American Indian. Ask the Palestinian.
Astonishing you can say this with a straight face.
ask Trump - both wives who are immigrants, including one whose family came on a chain migration, and whose mother was also an immigrant
ask Vance - wife's family are immigrants
ask Rubio - family were immigrants
ask Miller - family were refugees
Trump hired foreigners at cheaper wages. How does that benefit people born here?
It doesn't. Don't be addicted to cheap labor
It's not always cheaper labor.
In many (I would argue the majority), Americans are willing to take these jobs but they are not even considered at any price due to the ethnic nepotism practiced by Indian hiring managers.
I mean, Trump hired H2 white eastern european foreign workers over local black floridians.
show us a SINGLE democrat advocating to restrict H2 visas?
a SINGLE democrat ???????
Show me what Trump has done about H2s? Here, I'll show you:
Trump increases visa:
first term:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-brings-in-15000-more-temporary-workers-this-year/
second term:
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-administration-will-add-roughly-65000-seasonal-guest-worker-visas-2026-2026-01-30/
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-seasonal-visa-reversal-breaks-from-foreign-labor-crackdown
Employer groups made an intense push after the government signaled at the end of 2025 it would release only 35,000 additional H-2B visas for the coming year, cutting nearly half the number available over the past three years. Their efforts culminated in the Labor and Homeland Security departments this month authorizing more than 64,000 additional H-2B visas—nearly doubling the annual number available by statute.
I'm sure they greased Trump's palm.
Trump picks eastern european foreign workers over Americans
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers
Who's your saviour now?
we know republicans are evil.
but Democrats used to be the party of labor but have abandoned US workers, YET STILL CLAIM THEY WANT TO HELP US WORKERS!!!!!
show a single Democrat that advocates to reduce H2 visas?
meanwhile. the evil party is ...
Two complementary bills now pending would deliver what executive action cannot. In the House, Rep. Eli Crane's End H-1B Visa Abuse Act (H.R. 8443) pauses new H-1B issuance for three years, then permanently cuts the cap to 25,000 and imposes a real labor-market test on every petition. In the Senate, Sen. Tom Cotton's Visa Cap Enforcement Act (S. 2941) closes the loopholes that let hundreds of thousands of additional foreign workers slip past the 65,000 statutory cap each year. Together, they address both the size of the program and the loopholes that inflate it well beyond what Congress originally authorized.
Send a message to your U.S. Representative urging him/her to support and pass H.R. 8443, the End H-1B Visa Abuse Act, and to your U.S. Senators urging them to support and pass S. 2941, the Visa Cap Enforcement Act.
This is all great, but even if this passes, available jobs for American citizens are unlikely to increase without also targeting outsourcing. Every major fortune 500 company has an offshore outlet or a contract with a big offshore bodyshop to provide labor that could be done by our grads easily in the USA. The number of these positions across all the companies is enormous. Right now there is zero penalty or any type of tax for our corporations to offshore the entire departments if they wanted to. It's time to tax this sh*t. I don't see how these extra profits are trickling down to us.
The US relies on H2 foreign workers to work on farms. There is no way American workers will work those jobs. And before someone says, "Well, if they pay enough they will." Think things through. Business 101... labor is the most expensive part of the cost of goods/services for a company.
Unlike the service jobs at Trump's hotels where Americans really did want to work there, but they were the wrong skin color.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone still believes mass immigration is a net positive for any native people. Ask the American Indian. Ask the Palestinian.
Astonishing you can say this with a straight face.
ask Trump - both wives who are immigrants, including one whose family came on a chain migration, and whose mother was also an immigrant
ask Vance - wife's family are immigrants
ask Rubio - family were immigrants
ask Miller - family were refugees
Trump hired foreigners at cheaper wages. How does that benefit people born here?
It doesn't. Don't be addicted to cheap labor
It's not always cheaper labor.
In many (I would argue the majority), Americans are willing to take these jobs but they are not even considered at any price due to the ethnic nepotism practiced by Indian hiring managers.
I mean, Trump hired H2 white eastern european foreign workers over local black floridians.
show us a SINGLE democrat advocating to restrict H2 visas?
a SINGLE democrat ???????
Show me what Trump has done about H2s? Here, I'll show you:
Trump increases visa:
first term:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-brings-in-15000-more-temporary-workers-this-year/
second term:
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-administration-will-add-roughly-65000-seasonal-guest-worker-visas-2026-2026-01-30/
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-seasonal-visa-reversal-breaks-from-foreign-labor-crackdown
Employer groups made an intense push after the government signaled at the end of 2025 it would release only 35,000 additional H-2B visas for the coming year, cutting nearly half the number available over the past three years. Their efforts culminated in the Labor and Homeland Security departments this month authorizing more than 64,000 additional H-2B visas—nearly doubling the annual number available by statute.
I'm sure they greased Trump's palm.
Trump picks eastern european foreign workers over Americans
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers
Who's your saviour now?
we know republicans are evil.
but Democrats used to be the party of labor but have abandoned US workers, YET STILL CLAIM THEY WANT TO HELP US WORKERS!!!!!
show a single Democrat that advocates to reduce H2 visas?
meanwhile. the evil party is ...
Two complementary bills now pending would deliver what executive action cannot. In the House, Rep. Eli Crane's End H-1B Visa Abuse Act (H.R. 8443) pauses new H-1B issuance for three years, then permanently cuts the cap to 25,000 and imposes a real labor-market test on every petition. In the Senate, Sen. Tom Cotton's Visa Cap Enforcement Act (S. 2941) closes the loopholes that let hundreds of thousands of additional foreign workers slip past the 65,000 statutory cap each year. Together, they address both the size of the program and the loopholes that inflate it well beyond what Congress originally authorized.
Send a message to your U.S. Representative urging him/her to support and pass H.R. 8443, the End H-1B Visa Abuse Act, and to your U.S. Senators urging them to support and pass S. 2941, the Visa Cap Enforcement Act.
This is all great, but even if this passes, available jobs for American citizens are unlikely to increase without also targeting outsourcing. Every major fortune 500 company has an offshore outlet or a contract with a big offshore bodyshop to provide labor that could be done by our grads easily in the USA. The number of these positions across all the companies is enormous. Right now there is zero penalty or any type of tax for our corporations to offshore the entire departments if they wanted to. It's time to tax this sh*t. I don't see how these extra profits are trickling down to us.
The US relies on H2 foreign workers to work on farms. There is no way American workers will work those jobs. And before someone says, "Well, if they pay enough they will." Think things through. Business 101... labor is the most expensive part of the cost of goods/services for a company.
Unlike the service jobs at Trump's hotels where Americans really did want to work there, but they were the wrong skin color.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone still believes mass immigration is a net positive for any native people. Ask the American Indian. Ask the Palestinian.
Astonishing you can say this with a straight face.
ask Trump - both wives who are immigrants, including one whose family came on a chain migration, and whose mother was also an immigrant
ask Vance - wife's family are immigrants
ask Rubio - family were immigrants
ask Miller - family were refugees
Trump hired foreigners at cheaper wages. How does that benefit people born here?
It doesn't. Don't be addicted to cheap labor
It's not always cheaper labor.
In many (I would argue the majority), Americans are willing to take these jobs but they are not even considered at any price due to the ethnic nepotism practiced by Indian hiring managers.
I mean, Trump hired H2 white eastern european foreign workers over local black floridians.
show us a SINGLE democrat advocating to restrict H2 visas?
a SINGLE democrat ???????
Show me what Trump has done about H2s? Here, I'll show you:
Trump increases visa:
first term:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-brings-in-15000-more-temporary-workers-this-year/
second term:
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-administration-will-add-roughly-65000-seasonal-guest-worker-visas-2026-2026-01-30/
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-seasonal-visa-reversal-breaks-from-foreign-labor-crackdown
Employer groups made an intense push after the government signaled at the end of 2025 it would release only 35,000 additional H-2B visas for the coming year, cutting nearly half the number available over the past three years. Their efforts culminated in the Labor and Homeland Security departments this month authorizing more than 64,000 additional H-2B visas—nearly doubling the annual number available by statute.
I'm sure they greased Trump's palm.
Trump picks eastern european foreign workers over Americans
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers
Who's your saviour now?
we know republicans are evil.
but Democrats used to be the party of labor but have abandoned US workers, YET STILL CLAIM THEY WANT TO HELP US WORKERS!!!!!
show a single Democrat that advocates to reduce H2 visas?
meanwhile. the evil party is ...
Two complementary bills now pending would deliver what executive action cannot. In the House, Rep. Eli Crane's End H-1B Visa Abuse Act (H.R. 8443) pauses new H-1B issuance for three years, then permanently cuts the cap to 25,000 and imposes a real labor-market test on every petition. In the Senate, Sen. Tom Cotton's Visa Cap Enforcement Act (S. 2941) closes the loopholes that let hundreds of thousands of additional foreign workers slip past the 65,000 statutory cap each year. Together, they address both the size of the program and the loopholes that inflate it well beyond what Congress originally authorized.
Send a message to your U.S. Representative urging him/her to support and pass H.R. 8443, the End H-1B Visa Abuse Act, and to your U.S. Senators urging them to support and pass S. 2941, the Visa Cap Enforcement Act.
This is all great, but even if this passes, available jobs for American citizens are unlikely to increase without also targeting outsourcing. Every major fortune 500 company has an offshore outlet or a contract with a big offshore bodyshop to provide labor that could be done by our grads easily in the USA. The number of these positions across all the companies is enormous. Right now there is zero penalty or any type of tax for our corporations to offshore the entire departments if they wanted to. It's time to tax this sh*t. I don't see how these extra profits are trickling down to us.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone still believes mass immigration is a net positive for any native people. Ask the American Indian. Ask the Palestinian.
Astonishing you can say this with a straight face.
ask Trump - both wives who are immigrants, including one whose family came on a chain migration, and whose mother was also an immigrant
ask Vance - wife's family are immigrants
ask Rubio - family were immigrants
ask Miller - family were refugees
Trump hired foreigners at cheaper wages. How does that benefit people born here?
It doesn't. Don't be addicted to cheap labor
It's not always cheaper labor.
In many (I would argue the majority), Americans are willing to take these jobs but they are not even considered at any price due to the ethnic nepotism practiced by Indian hiring managers.
I mean, Trump hired H2 white eastern european foreign workers over local black floridians.
show us a SINGLE democrat advocating to restrict H2 visas?
a SINGLE democrat ???????
Show me what Trump has done about H2s? Here, I'll show you:
Trump increases visa:
first term:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-brings-in-15000-more-temporary-workers-this-year/
second term:
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-administration-will-add-roughly-65000-seasonal-guest-worker-visas-2026-2026-01-30/
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-seasonal-visa-reversal-breaks-from-foreign-labor-crackdown
Employer groups made an intense push after the government signaled at the end of 2025 it would release only 35,000 additional H-2B visas for the coming year, cutting nearly half the number available over the past three years. Their efforts culminated in the Labor and Homeland Security departments this month authorizing more than 64,000 additional H-2B visas—nearly doubling the annual number available by statute.
I'm sure they greased Trump's palm.
Trump picks eastern european foreign workers over Americans
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers
Who's your saviour now?
we know republicans are evil.
but Democrats used to be the party of labor but have abandoned US workers, YET STILL CLAIM THEY WANT TO HELP US WORKERS!!!!!
show a single Democrat that advocates to reduce H2 visas?
meanwhile. the evil party is ...
Two complementary bills now pending would deliver what executive action cannot. In the House, Rep. Eli Crane's End H-1B Visa Abuse Act (H.R. 8443) pauses new H-1B issuance for three years, then permanently cuts the cap to 25,000 and imposes a real labor-market test on every petition. In the Senate, Sen. Tom Cotton's Visa Cap Enforcement Act (S. 2941) closes the loopholes that let hundreds of thousands of additional foreign workers slip past the 65,000 statutory cap each year. Together, they address both the size of the program and the loopholes that inflate it well beyond what Congress originally authorized.
Send a message to your U.S. Representative urging him/her to support and pass H.R. 8443, the End H-1B Visa Abuse Act, and to your U.S. Senators urging them to support and pass S. 2941, the Visa Cap Enforcement Act.
Dems do want to help workers by..
1. offering parental leave
2. helping with childcare costs
3. providing affordable health insurance
4. increasing minimum wage
5. investing in renewable energy to create jobs, not to mention reduce reliance on dirty fuel and foreign energy, which leads us to...
6. not starting a stupid foreign war that increases gas and food prices
7. not starting a stupid trade war that increases prices overall.
They are indeed stupid, though, for listening to tech execs, but what's truly evil is that Trump knows that it hurts American workers yet still imports these foreign workers over American workers and will do the bidding of corporations as long as they enrich him.
Stupid is stupid, but hypocrisy, greed and evil is just that. Stupid people can learn; greedy evil people like Trump don't change their ways. He's had 60 years to do that. He's not changing now, especially now that he has dementia.
just move a whole bunch of jobs overseas.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s astonishing that anyone still believes mass immigration is a net positive for any native people. Ask the American Indian. Ask the Palestinian.
Astonishing you can say this with a straight face.
ask Trump - both wives who are immigrants, including one whose family came on a chain migration, and whose mother was also an immigrant
ask Vance - wife's family are immigrants
ask Rubio - family were immigrants
ask Miller - family were refugees
Trump hired foreigners at cheaper wages. How does that benefit people born here?
It doesn't. Don't be addicted to cheap labor
It's not always cheaper labor.
In many (I would argue the majority), Americans are willing to take these jobs but they are not even considered at any price due to the ethnic nepotism practiced by Indian hiring managers.
I mean, Trump hired H2 white eastern european foreign workers over local black floridians.
show us a SINGLE democrat advocating to restrict H2 visas?
a SINGLE democrat ???????
Show me what Trump has done about H2s? Here, I'll show you:
Trump increases visa:
first term:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-brings-in-15000-more-temporary-workers-this-year/
second term:
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-administration-will-add-roughly-65000-seasonal-guest-worker-visas-2026-2026-01-30/
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-seasonal-visa-reversal-breaks-from-foreign-labor-crackdown
Employer groups made an intense push after the government signaled at the end of 2025 it would release only 35,000 additional H-2B visas for the coming year, cutting nearly half the number available over the past three years. Their efforts culminated in the Labor and Homeland Security departments this month authorizing more than 64,000 additional H-2B visas—nearly doubling the annual number available by statute.
I'm sure they greased Trump's palm.
Trump picks eastern european foreign workers over Americans
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers
Who's your saviour now?
we know republicans are evil.
but Democrats used to be the party of labor but have abandoned US workers, YET STILL CLAIM THEY WANT TO HELP US WORKERS!!!!!
show a single Democrat that advocates to reduce H2 visas?
meanwhile. the evil party is ...
Two complementary bills now pending would deliver what executive action cannot. In the House, Rep. Eli Crane's End H-1B Visa Abuse Act (H.R. 8443) pauses new H-1B issuance for three years, then permanently cuts the cap to 25,000 and imposes a real labor-market test on every petition. In the Senate, Sen. Tom Cotton's Visa Cap Enforcement Act (S. 2941) closes the loopholes that let hundreds of thousands of additional foreign workers slip past the 65,000 statutory cap each year. Together, they address both the size of the program and the loopholes that inflate it well beyond what Congress originally authorized.
Send a message to your U.S. Representative urging him/her to support and pass H.R. 8443, the End H-1B Visa Abuse Act, and to your U.S. Senators urging them to support and pass S. 2941, the Visa Cap Enforcement Act.
This is all great, but even if this passes, available jobs for American citizens are unlikely to increase without also targeting outsourcing. Every major fortune 500 company has an offshore outlet or a contract with a big offshore bodyshop to provide labor that could be done by our grads easily in the USA. The number of these positions across all the companies is enormous. Right now there is zero penalty or any type of tax for our corporations to offshore the entire departments if they wanted to. It's time to tax this sh*t. I don't see how these extra profits are trickling down to us.