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Anonymous wrote: UVA will always be a top tier school not just for those in the state. Virginia Tech has built a reputation outside of Virginia as well.

William and Mary is the overpaid country club that nobody outside of town actually thinks is a status. I’d send my kid OOS before sending my teen here.

From NY suburbs of NYC. Very status-conscious community. We were well aware that all three schools are excellent. I would guess someone who doesn't know William & Mary, one of the oldest colleges in the US, just isn't very knowledgeable about colleges.

Yep. Have friends with kids at W&M. I have set up friends from NYC area a few times now with those students when they come down for tours.

Anonymous wrote: UVA will always be a top tier school not just for those in the state. Virginia Tech has built a reputation outside of Virginia as well.

William and Mary is the overpaid country club that nobody outside of town actually thinks is a status. I’d send my kid OOS before sending my teen here.

In other words, they rejected you and you're still bitter. Poor thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland has UMD and JHU.
[b]Virigina does not have a JHU. Don't let that hurt your feelings, it is what it is.[/b]

VA has UVA Medical, UVA Hospital and VA Tech for engineering and science, and W&M for a SLAC offering, which no other state has. And 3O+ other public institutions of higher learning. VA also has UVA Law now ranked 4th if all law schools.

Well, more than that, JHU is private and gives no discount to in state students. All of the Virginia schools have in-state tuition for residents.

Anonymous wrote: UVA will always be a top tier school not just for those in the state. Virginia Tech has built a reputation outside of Virginia as well.

William and Mary is the overpaid country club that nobody outside of town actually thinks is a status. I’d send my kid OOS before sending my teen here.

From NY suburbs of NYC. Very status-conscious community. We were well aware that all three schools are excellent. I would guess someone who doesn't know William & Mary, one of the oldest colleges in the US, just isn't very knowledgeable about colleges.

Anonymous wrote:I live in DC and I see VA posters talk about these schools as if they're ivies. Why??? I understand that UVA has a certain mystique as it's VA's only "elite"-approaching school, but, frankly, UVA isn't even Georgetown, nevermind Stanford or Yale.

William and Mary is unique because of its size and also has some level of mystique but, again, I don't understand the commotion. It's essentially a public Wake Forest. Why?

Same story with VT. Even less of a reason to get into a twist because it's just like every other large public school in the nation. It has nice architecture, sure, but...so what?!

Can anyone enlighten me?

Because they are on par with elite privates for a fraction of the price if you are instate. Is this not obvious?

While my kids didn't go there, VA's university system is literally one of the reasons we live in VA.

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Anonymous wrote:A degree from UVA is Ivy-league because UVA is one of the original Public Ivies.

Public Ivies offer the same standard of education as the Ivies, in a public school environment and at a public school cost. These schools are more than just non-Ivies — they're some of the best schools you can attend in the world today.

Just search "best public universities in USA" and you'll find UVA.

And Virginia doesn't have a "reputable" private. It does have University of Richmond. Other than that, what other privates come to mind? So, they still treat UVA like it's their prestigious private but it is not a private.

If it's private, it does not matter what state it is in. No cost difference.

Not talking about the $ factor. Just that the state of VA doesn't have a private university applicants think of when applying to colleges and universities from within VA. Think JHU (private) in Maryland.

Why does this matter? What does this have to do with anything?

Anonymous wrote: UVA will always be a top tier school not just for those in the state. Virginia Tech has built a reputation outside of Virginia as well.

William and Mary is the overpaid country club that nobody outside of town actually thinks is a status. I’d send my kid OOS before sending my teen here.

Sorry, this makes no sense. As a college professor, I would much rather have my kids go to W&M. The education is top notch and in every way comparable to elite private colleges with outstanding advising, research opportunities, and support for undergraduates. It is also what many of us consider to be the ideal size.

I was thrilled when my oldest was accepted to both UVA and W&M as well as a couple of US News top 10s. He chose UVA because the combination of strong peers + instate tuition is hard to beat. Of course the peers are a step higher at a few other schools in the country, but is it worth the difference in tuition? Not for our family!

I hope my current high school junior has the same choices and I sincerely hope he chooses W&M.

Anonymous wrote:Maryland has UMD and JHU.
Virigina does not have a JHU. Don't let that hurt your feelings, it is what it is.

I thought this was about public schools?

Anonymous wrote: UVA will always be a top tier school not just for those in the state. Virginia Tech has built a reputation outside of Virginia as well.

William and Mary is the overpaid country club that nobody outside of town actually thinks is a status. I’d send my kid OOS before sending my teen here.

LOL wut?

UVA will always be a top tier school not just for those in the state. Virginia Tech has built a reputation outside of Virginia as well.

William and Mary is the overpaid country club that nobody outside of town actually thinks is a status. I’d send my kid OOS before sending my teen here.

No dog in this debate as a DC resident. If I had to choose where to live for in state options, VA is clear choice.

Anonymous wrote:Maryland has UMD and JHU.
[b]Virigina does not have a JHU. Don't let that hurt your feelings, it is what it is.[/b]

VA has UVA Medical, UVA Hospital and VA Tech for engineering and science, and W&M for a SLAC offering, which no other state has. And 3O+ other public institutions of higher learning. VA also has UVA Law now ranked 4th if all law schools.

Anonymous wrote:Maryland has UMD and JHU.
Virigina does not have a JHU. Don't let that hurt your feelings, it is what it is.

You need spell chech.

Maryland has UMD and JHU.
Virigina does not have a JHU. Don't let that hurt your feelings, it is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:A degree from UVA is Ivy-league because UVA is one of the original Public Ivies.

Public Ivies offer the same standard of education as the Ivies, in a public school environment and at a public school cost. These schools are more than just non-Ivies — they're some of the best schools you can attend in the world today.

Just search "best public universities in USA" and you'll find UVA.

And Virginia doesn't have a "reputable" private. It does have University of Richmond. Other than that, what other privates come to mind? So, they still treat UVA like it's their prestigious private but it is not a private.

If it's private, it does not matter what state it is in. No cost difference.

Not talking about the $ factor. Just that the state of VA doesn't have a private university applicants think of when applying to colleges and universities from within VA. Think JHU (private) in Maryland.

Nice try.
UVA > UMD

True.

UVA is ranked in the T30 at #26 out of all universities in the USA (private and public combined). As far as public universities, it is ranked 4th; very few public universities can exceed or match UVA.

UMD - college park, is ranked far below, and barely in the T50, at 42nd place.

No fair comparison between the two, really.