Can’t see spending $100k a year for Villanova.

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Anonymous wrote:Fordham and Villanova have really fallen in US News. Nova needs top 10 hoops program but Jay Wright isn’t on the bench anymore.

Nova hasn’t really fallen yet though. 10 years ago they were in the regional uni category then got a big boost in apps from the championships but still around their high. But yeah acceptance rate keeps going up as the team struggles

Being raised in NoVA. I can’t separate the region’s nickname from the college. When I went to VT in the early 90s and people were referring to DC area as Nova- I was so confused. Nova was only used for the community college my entire youth. Same with DMV!! It was only the department of motor vehicles until it started meaning location.
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Anonymous wrote:Fordham and Villanova have really fallen in US News. Nova needs top 10 hoops program but Jay Wright isn’t on the bench anymore.

Nova hasn’t really fallen yet though. 10 years ago they were in the regional uni category then got a big boost in apps from the championships but still around their high. But yeah acceptance rate keeps going up as the team struggles

Fordham and Villanova have really fallen in US News. Nova needs top 10 hoops program but Jay Wright isn’t on the bench anymore.

Anonymous wrote:Not many great academic schools beyond Georgetown, Boston College, and Holy Cross. Have to wonder how some lesser ranked Catholic schools will survive with small endowments and offer deep discounts off tuition to attract good students.

You haven’t posted this enough times in this thread. 10 or 15 more times should do it.

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Anonymous wrote:The new Boston College basketball coach is Bill Murray’s son. The elder Murray should generate some media attention for the team, even if younger Murray doesn’t generate many victories.

Wasn't he the asst. coach for Uconn? Maybe he will generate victories.

That is not likely. Pat Reilly or Phil Jackson could not help them and I am an alum.

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Anonymous wrote:Paying $90k to a school ranked well beyond 100 probably isn’t a good ROI. Lots of Catholic kids flocking to UGa, Clemson, Alabama and Ole Miss. Cheaper, much better weather, bid time athletics and same if not better outcomes,

which school are you referring to? A lot of the Jesuit schools are under 90K and most give excellent merit.

And ROI is not a concept that should be used for college. Just a dumb metric for what you are getting. And for many the 90k a year is a rounding error or has already been saved for.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a question for posters who insist that Jesuit colleges are "no longer Catholic." What are you basing that on? Did you (other than Georgetown) actually attend one? Because I did, and it was Catholic AF. What it wasn't was "conservative." There's a difference.

Another Jesuit grad here. Not sure why that poster even cares, but a certain group of Catholics have always had a bee in their bonnet about Jesuits. The Opus Dei types can find another Catholic school to attend, or maybe start a new one for themselves.

Well they are run by the “black pope” ! My dad went to Jesuit school from childhood through grad school and the Jesuits definitely are the bad @sses of the Catholics. Pope Francis was the very first Jesuit pope in the history of the church. That’s how long it took and shows you what the other orders think of them, rebels! And Francis was the most liberal and inclusive—though Leo seems to be following in his manner.

Jesuits have unique charisma, educational focus and commitment to social justice and missionary work. The Jesuit priests I have come across have all been so witty and intelligent. That sharp wit is found in many people raised in Jesuit education.

Anonymous wrote:Not many great academic schools beyond Georgetown, Boston College, and Holy Cross. Have to wonder how some lesser ranked Catholic schools will survive with small endowments and offer deep discounts off tuition to attract good students.

So this is a real thing. If you are a college you have to have something special about you that makes people want to go. You cannot be 1 of 200 and expect to survive. Georgetown is top 25. BC is in the next 10 and should be top 25 as well. HC has been an elite Catholic choice forever. What do the others have? Some could have location but if they do not have a niche they will be gone.

Not many great academic schools beyond Georgetown, Boston College, and Holy Cross. Have to wonder how some lesser ranked Catholic schools will survive with small endowments and offer deep discounts off tuition to attract good students.

Anonymous wrote:I have a question for posters who insist that Jesuit colleges are "no longer Catholic." What are you basing that on? Did you (other than Georgetown) actually attend one? Because I did, and it was Catholic AF. What it wasn't was "conservative." There's a difference.

Another Jesuit grad here. Not sure why that poster even cares, but a certain group of Catholics have always had a bee in their bonnet about Jesuits. The Opus Dei types can find another Catholic school to attend, or maybe start a new one for themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Follow the money, Holy Cross, Georgetown and BC have the largest endowment per student in that order. With kids flocking in large numbers to SEC and Big10 schools lesser known Jesuit/Catholic schools will have to offer lots of merit aid to attract potential students.

There are many Catholic families who would have considered these smaller Jesuit collleges if they were still Catholic, but since so many jesuit colleges have wholehearedly rejected the Catholic faith and heritage to become just one more small secular liberal arts college in a sea of small secular liberal arts college, there is no reason to consider them.

Jesuit colleges are for everyone. They are not Catholic summer camp and have no time for dogma. They are not church, which makes sense because Catholicism has a wide diversity of thought. Everyone will take a couple of theology and philosophy classes and the curricula and atmosphere are steeped in Jesuit values of service and justice. There are plenty of ways to engage with your Catholic faith on campus. A far cry from "Just one more small secular liberal arts school."

I went to a Jesuit college for undergrad. I went there because it was the best college I got into that didn’t require a foreign language (in other words, religion had zero influence on my choice).

It’s hard to describe the atmosphere at this college. It’s paradoxical in that there is a religious tone in the background, but it’s definitely in the BACKGROUND. Students used drugs & had sex. They drank beer & skipped class. Not everyone was Catholic, or even Christian. The religious background gave the institution a sort of overall direction, but there was nothing stifling about it. There were professors from all races & religions, & not one of them “forced” their views on students.

Thank goodness the MAGA poster keeps getting booted.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty weak only 3 schools in top 50. Georgetown, HC, and BC, Don’t see appeal of Fairfield when in state UConn is much higher ranked at half the cost.

Weird and prejudiced comment start to finish. How many Protestant/Christian schools are in the top 50? How many LDS? How many Jewish? And what in the world does Fairfield have to do with UConn other than being in Connecticut. You don't see the appeal of a fun, spirited liberally arts school because it is in the same state as a large state school?

Jesuit colleges like Fairfield will have much smaller core curriculum classes than places like UConn. Students are known personally by their professors. And with the focus on liberal arts in the core, a given student doesn't just study intro literature, philosophy and theology, but higher level classes also in those subjects along with the writing and discussion that comes with it. It's a different experience than a large state university.

The kids we know at Fairfield, Providence, Fordham, love their schools and are not kids who would equally love UGA, Auburn, Alabama, whereverU. They're not all interchangeable.

This exactly. My student had absolutely no interest in a southern school with Greek life. Those aren't here people.

This was exactly the reason that I chose Fairfield. I did not want some catty Greek life system.

I checked it out yesterday when I was updating the USNWR rankings and it looks like a great university. Very committed to Jesuit principles around service to others, diversity, and promoting justice. Beautiful campus.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty weak only 3 schools in top 50. Georgetown, HC, and BC, Don’t see appeal of Fairfield when in state UConn is much higher ranked at half the cost.

Weird and prejudiced comment start to finish. How many Protestant/Christian schools are in the top 50? How many LDS? How many Jewish? And what in the world does Fairfield have to do with UConn other than being in Connecticut. You don't see the appeal of a fun, spirited liberally arts school because it is in the same state as a large state school?

Jesuit colleges like Fairfield will have much smaller core curriculum classes than places like UConn. Students are known personally by their professors. And with the focus on liberal arts in the core, a given student doesn't just study intro literature, philosophy and theology, but higher level classes also in those subjects along with the writing and discussion that comes with it. It's a different experience than a large state university.

The kids we know at Fairfield, Providence, Fordham, love their schools and are not kids who would equally love UGA, Auburn, Alabama, whereverU. They're not all interchangeable.

This exactly. My student had absolutely no interest in a southern school with Greek life. Those aren't here people.

This was exactly the reason that I chose Fairfield. I did not want some catty Greek life system.