Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 15:39     Subject: Why do people stay religious?
Not one educated, informed logical person thinks there was a global flood during human history or prior. In fact it is physically impossible to have happened.

The evidence of flood and flood legends is strong corroboration of the position that the bible is mere mythology, and not even original mythology at that.

If you believe there was a literal global flood, despite all the evidence to the contrary, then there is no purpose in discussing it because you are in denial of clear facts.

I find it hard to believe there is a whole page of a forum of adults devoted to the flood myth. I guess my participation makes me (almost) as bad! lol
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 15:22     Subject: Why do people stay religious?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
We Christians aren’t rubbing our hands with glee over non-Christians thrown into the lake of fire, we are trying to warn people how to avoid going there.


Like hell you're not! You're downright gleeful about it. You and your horrific worse than Hitler mass mudering slavery endorsing god.

Again, the world is fortunate there is no evidence one exists.


I don’t recall Hitler giving people a choice.


What is the choice we need to make? Believe in him, love him, worship him or he will throw you in a lake of fire? That's not a choice, that's coercion.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 15:19     Subject: Re:Why do people stay religious?
Anonymous wrote:https://peacefulscience.org/articles/daniel-ang-a-scientist-looks-at-the-resurrection/

I don't know what this proves or doesn't prove. It doesn't seem to say much other than people said it happened so therefore it must be so.

What makes a lot more sense is that Jesus said he was going to rise again in 3 days and then a few people claimed it happened. This happens all the time that people act as if a prophecy is fulfilled. It just simply doesn't make sense that this fundamental part of the faith would only be revealed to a few. Even in the ten commandments, Moses came down with the commandments and was already their leader.


We've got the Rosetta Stone, but never did find the original stones that the 10 commandments were written on, right?

Terrible commandments at any rate. The first ones are all about who's in charge: The Lord thy God.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 15:18     Subject: Re:Why do people stay religious?
Anonymous wrote:https://peacefulscience.org/articles/daniel-ang-a-scientist-looks-at-the-resurrection/

I don't know what this proves or doesn't prove. It doesn't seem to say much other than people said it happened so therefore it must be so.

What makes a lot more sense is that Jesus said he was going to rise again in 3 days and then a few people claimed it happened. This happens all the time that people act as if a prophecy is fulfilled. It just simply doesn't make sense that this fundamental part of the faith would only be revealed to a few. Even in the ten commandments, Moses came down with the commandments and was already their leader.


The 2nd and 3rd claims presuppose that the basis for those claims are true. There is no evidence for either.

Also, the belief in resurrection was not unique to Christianity in the ancient world. Several other religious and mythological traditions feature a similar theme. We don't have self-avowed "Christian scientists" trying to prove those claims.

Now show that Manu or Zoroaster are not the true "god" of creation, and not the Christina god.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 15:16     Subject: Re:Why do people stay religious?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Evidence of a flood in the past does not indicate that all animals and people were wiped out and had to start again. We just had floods this week. This happens all the time.


Take it up with the researchers/article authors, not me.


It says there was possibly a flood the size of Illinois based on evidence of an old shoreline that says nothing about the timeline of events or animals and humans being wiped out or anything related to the same area where other Jewish stories are discussed. It says that flood may be the basis of the story which was then told over generations. That's the entire article.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 15:11     Subject: Re:Why do people stay religious?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Evidence of a flood in the past does not indicate that all animals and people were wiped out and had to start again. We just had floods this week. This happens all the time.


Take it up with the researchers/article authors, not me.


That's your best defense? Evidence of local floods, and how they influenced human story telling is not evidence of a global flood that wiped out all of humanity except those that made it onto Noah's Ark. See how unreasonable you are now?

Also, your one "author" is a claimed Christian who is clearly biased in his perception of the results of data.

Finding one or two "scientists" who make claims does not make their claim true on its own.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 15:09     Subject: Re:Why do people stay religious?
https://peacefulscience.org/articles/daniel-ang-a-scientist-looks-at-the-resurrection/

I don't know what this proves or doesn't prove. It doesn't seem to say much other than people said it happened so therefore it must be so.

What makes a lot more sense is that Jesus said he was going to rise again in 3 days and then a few people claimed it happened. This happens all the time that people act as if a prophecy is fulfilled. It just simply doesn't make sense that this fundamental part of the faith would only be revealed to a few. Even in the ten commandments, Moses came down with the commandments and was already their leader.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 15:02     Subject: Re:Why do people stay religious?
Anonymous wrote:Evidence of a flood in the past does not indicate that all animals and people were wiped out and had to start again. We just had floods this week. This happens all the time.


Take it up with the researchers/article authors, not me.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 14:59     Subject: Re:Why do people stay religious?
Evidence of a flood in the past does not indicate that all animals and people were wiped out and had to start again. We just had floods this week. This happens all the time.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 14:48     Subject: Why do people stay religious?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did science show any of these things? Is that better?


There are various theories and recent discoveries that show various forms of evidence for a number of these events. Google is your friend.


I am not finding these. Can you point them out from Google?


That's hard to believe, but I'll bite.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ancient-relic-moses-ten-commandments-found-austria-archaeology/
https://peacefulscience.org/articles/daniel-ang-a-scientist-looks-at-the-resurrection/
https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/evidence-suggests-biblical-great-flood-noahs-time-happened/story?id=17884533
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/evidence-for-a-flood-102813115/
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 14:41     Subject: Why do people stay religious?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did science show any of these things? Is that better?


There are various theories and recent discoveries that show various forms of evidence for a number of these events. Google is your friend.


I am not finding these. Can you point them out from Google?
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 14:34     Subject: Why do people stay religious?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did science show any of these things? Is that better?


There are various theories and recent discoveries that show various forms of evidence for a number of these events. Google is your friend.


Since you claim supernatural events have evidence would you mind enlightening us?


I didn't claim anything. Read my post and do your own research.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 14:26     Subject: Why do people stay religious?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did science show any of these things? Is that better?


There are various theories and recent discoveries that show various forms of evidence for a number of these events. Google is your friend.


Since you claim supernatural events have evidence would you mind enlightening us?
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 14:12     Subject: Why do people stay religious?
Anonymous wrote:Did science show any of these things? Is that better?


There are various theories and recent discoveries that show various forms of evidence for a number of these events. Google is your friend.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 14:07     Subject: Why do people stay religious?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^^ lots of words, no actual evidence whatsoever.

All presuppositional that a god exists.

The Bible is not evidence that the Bible is true. Not how logic works.

As for your lake of fire threat: You are a very bad person to wish such a thing on another human being. Despicable, actually. Hitler level horrible. You should be ashamed of yourself. Fortunately, there is zero evidence such a thing exists.

Fail, fail, and fail again.
And you presuppose there is no God.

The Bible is an accurate, historical record and contains eye-witness accounts of events. Archeology has even proven things in the Bible to be true.

I never said that I wish you to burn. I take no pleasure in that. The Bible is clear about unbelievers like you:

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. — Revelation 20:15

Your name is written in the book of life when you repent of your sins and believe in your heart that Jesus is the son of God who takes away sin.

You are very much like a hard headed, insufferable man on Freethought Blogs. He went by the name NerdOfRedhead.

I pitied that man, bitter, eyes closed, fingers in his ears repeating over and over mindlessly, “No evidence! No God! Nyah-nyah I can’t hear you!”

Sir, take your fingers out of your ears and open your eyes to see the truth. But maybe this applies to you, a reprobate:

That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. —Mark 4:12

I pray that you will see before it is too late.

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
—Peter 3:9



DP here. I see the resident Bible thumping idiot is back.

Your inability to think blows my mind. For example, "The Bible is an accurate, historical record and contains eye-witness accounts of events. Archeology has even proven things in the Bible to be true." So, using this reasoning, the fact that archeologists have found evidence of the Troy, does this make all the The Odyssey true? Especially things like the Cyclops, after all, the Bible had giants in it.

Here is where your presuppositional bias shows.

You make a categorical error when you equate the Bible with a work of fiction like the Odyssey (which I read in High School).

The Bible is absolutely 100% true: the Origin of the Species described in Genesis, the genealogies of Noah’s sons and the Israelites; the prophets, wisdom in Proverbs, and eye-witness accounts of wars and the healing miracles of Jesus.

There were indeed giants, as there are giants today, people over 7’ tall.

Archeology does not prove the Odyssey as a true account, only that the story writer, as they do today, drew upon real places to tell a story.

The Bible is not fiction, but truth, and archeology supports the genealogies and places mentioned in the Bible.

Now, Jesus does teach in parables, stories of fictional people like in the Good Samaritan to teach a moral or a lesson.

My authority is Jesus, the son of God. Your authority is the babblings of vain men, some whose brains were addled by opium like Darwin I am convinced was, or Karl Marx an immoral reprobate and thoroughly evil and repugnant man.





Yikes! Keep your kids away from religion (former catholic)