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Anonymous wrote:I believe this ranking is more aligned with what matters to most DCUM posters than OP's.

1. Langley
2. TJ
3. McLean
4. Madison
5. Oakton
6. Woodson
7. Robinson
8. Chantilly
9. West Springfield
10. Lake Braddock
11. Marshall
12. South County
13. Centreville
14. Fairfax
15. Westfield
16. South Lakes
17. Hayfield
18. Edison
19. West Potomac
20. Herndon
21. Lewis
22. Annandale
23. Justice
24. Falls Church
25. Mount Vernon

TJ behind Langley?

That is patently laughable.

TJ's "prestige" is diminished with the admissions changes.

Anonymous wrote:This obsession with prestige is so old. Just support your kid, and encourage them to take advantage of what their school offers. Great students graduate every year from that bottom tier too.

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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of Justice students live in Seven Corners and Culmore. Please point out where those wealthy country club types that send their kids to Justice. I am saying this as a Stuart 1990 graduate who came to the United States as a boat refugee from Vietnam.

Justice has an enrollment of just over 2300 kids. About 435 are white, and they mostly live in the single-family areas rather than Seven Corners and Culmore. They aren't really country club types. They may live near Lake Barcroft or send their kids to community pools like SHRA and SHB&R. Their neighbors may send their kids to privates, but there are enough of these families to give Justice a different feel than Annandale (about 275 white kids) or Lewis (about 175 white kids). They dominate the PTA, they make sure their kids enroll in IB classes, and their kids' college admissions compare favorably to most of the other poorer schools.

Then you have the other demographics at Justice. The Hispanic kids account for about 60% of the school and are mostly low-income. The Asian and Black kids account for about 20% of the school and are most economically diverse than the mostly affluent white kids and mostly poor Hispanic kids.

Let me break this down for you. White kids that attend Justice are from MC families. Asians kids that go to Justice, most of them recently arrived here. Seven corners and Culmore areas are not safe neighborhoods. Most of the Vietnamese that arrived here in the 90's live either in Seven Corners or Culmore because those places were affordable for us. As soon as we graduated from Stuart (now Justice) we couldn't wait to go to college, either UVA or VATech. Upon college graduation, none of us moved back to either Culmore or Seven Corners. The vast majority of my Vietnamese classmates move to either Langley or McLean so that their kids can attend better schools. If Justice is such a great school, you would see a lot of Asian students from UMC families, but you don't because the school is not good.

I went to Justice and still own property there. I understand the current dynamics in the area just as well as you do.

I don't doubt that coming from Vietnam to Seven Corner/Culmore was a tough transition. There were lots of fights between the Vietnamese kids fleeing war and then a Communist regime and the Hispanic kids fleeing poverty and gangs for a while.

Sounds like you pride yourself on having ended up in the Langley or McLean area. Good for you. There aren't really many Vietnamese kids at either of those schools, though. There are far more Chinese and Korean kids than Vietnamese kids. Falls Church has a lot of Vietnamese kids, though. The families bought less expensive single-family houses when they could move out of the apartments.

But the white kids at Stuart/Justice generally avoided the fights and stayed on the academic track. Some are middle class but by any objective standard most of their families are UMC. They are fine with their kids doing IB at Justice and going to UVA, VT, etc. They already feel like they've made it so their sense of self-worth isn't all tied up in sending their kids to Langley, McLean, or even Potomac or Sidwell. Nor do they really care if only 10% of the Justice kids are Asian vs. 25-30% at Langley, McLean, etc.

I counted 17 students with the last name Nguyen graduating from Falls Church HS this year. Does any other HS in FCPS have such a large Vietnamese enrollment?

TJ.

81% of TJ is minority.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe this ranking is more aligned with what matters to most DCUM posters than OP's.

1. Langley
2. TJ
3. McLean
4. Madison
5. Oakton
6. Woodson
7. Robinson
8. Chantilly
9. West Springfield
10. Lake Braddock
11. Marshall
12. South County
13. Centreville
14. Fairfax
15. Westfield
16. South Lakes
17. Hayfield
18. Edison
19. West Potomac
20. Herndon
21. Lewis
22. Annandale
23. Justice
24. Falls Church
25. Mount Vernon

TJ behind Langley?

That is patently laughable.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe this ranking is more aligned with what matters to most DCUM posters than OP's.

1. Langley
2. TJ
3. McLean
4. Madison
5. Oakton
6. Woodson
7. Robinson
8. Chantilly
9. West Springfield
10. Lake Braddock
11. Marshall
12. South County
13. Centreville
14. Fairfax
15. Westfield
16. South Lakes
17. Hayfield
18. Edison
19. West Potomac
20. Herndon
21. Lewis
22. Annandale
23. Justice
24. Falls Church
25. Mount Vernon

TJ behind Langley?

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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of Justice students live in Seven Corners and Culmore. Please point out where those wealthy country club types that send their kids to Justice. I am saying this as a Stuart 1990 graduate who came to the United States as a boat refugee from Vietnam.

Justice has an enrollment of just over 2300 kids. About 435 are white, and they mostly live in the single-family areas rather than Seven Corners and Culmore. They aren't really country club types. They may live near Lake Barcroft or send their kids to community pools like SHRA and SHB&R. Their neighbors may send their kids to privates, but there are enough of these families to give Justice a different feel than Annandale (about 275 white kids) or Lewis (about 175 white kids). They dominate the PTA, they make sure their kids enroll in IB classes, and their kids' college admissions compare favorably to most of the other poorer schools.

Then you have the other demographics at Justice. The Hispanic kids account for about 60% of the school and are mostly low-income. The Asian and Black kids account for about 20% of the school and are most economically diverse than the mostly affluent white kids and mostly poor Hispanic kids.

Let me break this down for you. White kids that attend Justice are from MC families. Asians kids that go to Justice, most of them recently arrived here. Seven corners and Culmore areas are not safe neighborhoods. Most of the Vietnamese that arrived here in the 90's live either in Seven Corners or Culmore because those places were affordable for us. As soon as we graduated from Stuart (now Justice) we couldn't wait to go to college, either UVA or VATech. Upon college graduation, none of us moved back to either Culmore or Seven Corners. The vast majority of my Vietnamese classmates move to either Langley or McLean so that their kids can attend better schools. If Justice is such a great school, you would see a lot of Asian students from UMC families, but you don't because the school is not good.

I went to Justice and still own property there. I understand the current dynamics in the area just as well as you do.

I don't doubt that coming from Vietnam to Seven Corner/Culmore was a tough transition. There were lots of fights between the Vietnamese kids fleeing war and then a Communist regime and the Hispanic kids fleeing poverty and gangs for a while.

Sounds like you pride yourself on having ended up in the Langley or McLean area. Good for you. There aren't really many Vietnamese kids at either of those schools, though. There are far more Chinese and Korean kids than Vietnamese kids. Falls Church has a lot of Vietnamese kids, though. The families bought less expensive single-family houses when they could move out of the apartments.

But the white kids at Stuart/Justice generally avoided the fights and stayed on the academic track. Some are middle class but by any objective standard most of their families are UMC. They are fine with their kids doing IB at Justice and going to UVA, VT, etc. They already feel like they've made it so their sense of self-worth isn't all tied up in sending their kids to Langley, McLean, or even Potomac or Sidwell. Nor do they really care if only 10% of the Justice kids are Asian vs. 25-30% at Langley, McLean, etc.

I counted 17 students with the last name Nguyen graduating from Falls Church HS this year. Does any other HS in FCPS have such a large Vietnamese enrollment?

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Anonymous wrote:I believe this ranking is more aligned with what matters to most DCUM posters than OP's.

1. Langley
2. TJ
3. McLean
4. Madison
5. Oakton
6. Woodson
7. Robinson
8. Chantilly
9. West Springfield
10. Lake Braddock
11. Marshall
12. South County
13. Centreville
14. Fairfax
15. Westfield
16. South Lakes
17. Hayfield
18. Edison
19. West Potomac
20. Herndon
21. Lewis
22. Annandale
23. Justice
24. Falls Church
25. Mount Vernon

TJ behind Langley?

Yet another listing that generally just ranks schools by average HHI. Or essentially ESL levels to some degree. Though West Springfield is shockingly low and would move up the list.

You can’t find average HHI by school pyramid.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe this ranking is more aligned with what matters to most DCUM posters than OP's.

1. Langley
2. TJ
3. McLean
4. Madison
5. Oakton
6. Woodson
7. Robinson
8. Chantilly
9. West Springfield
10. Lake Braddock
11. Marshall
12. South County
13. Centreville
14. Fairfax
15. Westfield
16. South Lakes
17. Hayfield
18. Edison
19. West Potomac
20. Herndon
21. Lewis
22. Annandale
23. Justice
24. Falls Church
25. Mount Vernon

TJ behind Langley?

Yet another listing that generally just ranks schools by average HHI. Or essentially ESL levels to some degree. Though West Springfield is shockingly low and would move up the list.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe this ranking is more aligned with what matters to most DCUM posters than OP's.

1. Langley
2. TJ
3. McLean
4. Madison
5. Oakton
6. Woodson
7. Robinson
8. Chantilly
9. West Springfield
10. Lake Braddock
11. Marshall
12. South County
13. Centreville
14. Fairfax
15. Westfield
16. South Lakes
17. Hayfield
18. Edison
19. West Potomac
20. Herndon
21. Lewis
22. Annandale
23. Justice
24. Falls Church
25. Mount Vernon

TJ behind Langley?

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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of Justice students live in Seven Corners and Culmore. Please point out where those wealthy country club types that send their kids to Justice. I am saying this as a Stuart 1990 graduate who came to the United States as a boat refugee from Vietnam.

Justice has an enrollment of just over 2300 kids. About 435 are white, and they mostly live in the single-family areas rather than Seven Corners and Culmore. They aren't really country club types. They may live near Lake Barcroft or send their kids to community pools like SHRA and SHB&R. Their neighbors may send their kids to privates, but there are enough of these families to give Justice a different feel than Annandale (about 275 white kids) or Lewis (about 175 white kids). They dominate the PTA, they make sure their kids enroll in IB classes, and their kids' college admissions compare favorably to most of the other poorer schools.

Then you have the other demographics at Justice. The Hispanic kids account for about 60% of the school and are mostly low-income. The Asian and Black kids account for about 20% of the school and are most economically diverse than the mostly affluent white kids and mostly poor Hispanic kids.

Let me break this down for you. White kids that attend Justice are from MC families. Asians kids that go to Justice, most of them recently arrived here. Seven corners and Culmore areas are not safe neighborhoods. Most of the Vietnamese that arrived here in the 90's live either in Seven Corners or Culmore because those places were affordable for us. As soon as we graduated from Stuart (now Justice) we couldn't wait to go to college, either UVA or VATech. Upon college graduation, none of us moved back to either Culmore or Seven Corners. The vast majority of my Vietnamese classmates move to either Langley or McLean so that their kids can attend better schools. If Justice is such a great school, you would see a lot of Asian students from UMC families, but you don't because the school is not good.

So you are evaluating Justice now based on your experience from the 1990s? My son goes there and while it’s not perfect (and what is these days?) he is very happy there. I am very impressed with the teachers and the principal is very dedicated to the students and building a sense of community.

I’m not sure why people on this site who have no direct or recent experience with this school feel the need to weigh in.

My kids used to be zoned for justice, but then we moved, so we have a lot of friends whose kids go to justice. My sense is for the most part, the white families who go to justice either love their neighborhood or can't afford/don't want to move. These kids do well at justice and go to good colleges, but when looking at the pictures of sports, prom, whatever, you would think they go to an all white school. The justice community does not seem to be well integrated. My kids have friends of all races/ethnicities.

Let me guess…you moved because of the schools? 🙄

Yup, sure did. What's wrong with that?

got it, white flight.

Anonymous wrote:I believe this ranking is more aligned with what matters to most DCUM posters than OP's.

1. Langley
2. TJ
3. McLean
4. Madison
5. Oakton
6. Woodson
7. Robinson
8. Chantilly
9. West Springfield
10. Lake Braddock
11. Marshall
12. South County
13. Centreville
14. Fairfax
15. Westfield
16. South Lakes
17. Hayfield
18. Edison
19. West Potomac
20. Herndon
21. Lewis
22. Annandale
23. Justice
24. Falls Church
25. Mount Vernon

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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of Justice students live in Seven Corners and Culmore. Please point out where those wealthy country club types that send their kids to Justice. I am saying this as a Stuart 1990 graduate who came to the United States as a boat refugee from Vietnam.

Justice has an enrollment of just over 2300 kids. About 435 are white, and they mostly live in the single-family areas rather than Seven Corners and Culmore. They aren't really country club types. They may live near Lake Barcroft or send their kids to community pools like SHRA and SHB&R. Their neighbors may send their kids to privates, but there are enough of these families to give Justice a different feel than Annandale (about 275 white kids) or Lewis (about 175 white kids). They dominate the PTA, they make sure their kids enroll in IB classes, and their kids' college admissions compare favorably to most of the other poorer schools.

Then you have the other demographics at Justice. The Hispanic kids account for about 60% of the school and are mostly low-income. The Asian and Black kids account for about 20% of the school and are most economically diverse than the mostly affluent white kids and mostly poor Hispanic kids.

Let me break this down for you. White kids that attend Justice are from MC families. Asians kids that go to Justice, most of them recently arrived here. Seven corners and Culmore areas are not safe neighborhoods. Most of the Vietnamese that arrived here in the 90's live either in Seven Corners or Culmore because those places were affordable for us. As soon as we graduated from Stuart (now Justice) we couldn't wait to go to college, either UVA or VATech. Upon college graduation, none of us moved back to either Culmore or Seven Corners. The vast majority of my Vietnamese classmates move to either Langley or McLean so that their kids can attend better schools. If Justice is such a great school, you would see a lot of Asian students from UMC families, but you don't because the school is not good.

So you are evaluating Justice now based on your experience from the 1990s? My son goes there and while it’s not perfect (and what is these days?) he is very happy there. I am very impressed with the teachers and the principal is very dedicated to the students and building a sense of community.

I’m not sure why people on this site who have no direct or recent experience with this school feel the need to weigh in.

My kids used to be zoned for justice, but then we moved, so we have a lot of friends whose kids go to justice. My sense is for the most part, the white families who go to justice either love their neighborhood or can't afford/don't want to move. These kids do well at justice and go to good colleges, but when looking at the pictures of sports, prom, whatever, you would think they go to an all white school. The justice community does not seem to be well integrated. My kids have friends of all races/ethnicities.

Let me guess…you moved because of the schools? 🙄

Yup, sure did. What's wrong with that?

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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of Justice students live in Seven Corners and Culmore. Please point out where those wealthy country club types that send their kids to Justice. I am saying this as a Stuart 1990 graduate who came to the United States as a boat refugee from Vietnam.

Justice has an enrollment of just over 2300 kids. About 435 are white, and they mostly live in the single-family areas rather than Seven Corners and Culmore. They aren't really country club types. They may live near Lake Barcroft or send their kids to community pools like SHRA and SHB&R. Their neighbors may send their kids to privates, but there are enough of these families to give Justice a different feel than Annandale (about 275 white kids) or Lewis (about 175 white kids). They dominate the PTA, they make sure their kids enroll in IB classes, and their kids' college admissions compare favorably to most of the other poorer schools.

Then you have the other demographics at Justice. The Hispanic kids account for about 60% of the school and are mostly low-income. The Asian and Black kids account for about 20% of the school and are most economically diverse than the mostly affluent white kids and mostly poor Hispanic kids.

Let me break this down for you. White kids that attend Justice are from MC families. Asians kids that go to Justice, most of them recently arrived here. Seven corners and Culmore areas are not safe neighborhoods. Most of the Vietnamese that arrived here in the 90's live either in Seven Corners or Culmore because those places were affordable for us. As soon as we graduated from Stuart (now Justice) we couldn't wait to go to college, either UVA or VATech. Upon college graduation, none of us moved back to either Culmore or Seven Corners. The vast majority of my Vietnamese classmates move to either Langley or McLean so that their kids can attend better schools. If Justice is such a great school, you would see a lot of Asian students from UMC families, but you don't because the school is not good.

So you are evaluating Justice now based on your experience from the 1990s? My son goes there and while it’s not perfect (and what is these days?) he is very happy there. I am very impressed with the teachers and the principal is very dedicated to the students and building a sense of community.

I’m not sure why people on this site who have no direct or recent experience with this school feel the need to weigh in.

My kids used to be zoned for justice, but then we moved, so we have a lot of friends whose kids go to justice. My sense is for the most part, the white families who go to justice either love their neighborhood or can't afford/don't want to move. These kids do well at justice and go to good colleges, but when looking at the pictures of sports, prom, whatever, you would think they go to an all white school. The justice community does not seem to be well integrated. My kids have friends of all races/ethnicities.

Let me guess…you moved because of the schools? 🙄