Anonymous
Post 08/09/2025 12:47     Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I flew from Dulles airport to Paris a few days ago. Dulles was completely empty - no lines anywhere. When we got to Paris, the airport was the most crowded I’ve ever seen. Last year I did the same flight also in August and it took hours to get through security etc in Dulles.
You don't have to take your shoes off anymore. You don't have to show your boarding pass. You don't have to remove devices in some of the regular security lanes, depending on the scanner.


Except for shoes, that’s been the case at Dulles for years.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2025 12:41     Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:To add to the tourism losses, the U.S. economy gets something like 500B from foreign students studying here. Many this year can get their visas — schools are anticipating something like a 20% drop. And I would guess that will lead to permanent declines — if you were a parent abroad picking a college for your kid, I can’t imagine the U.S. would be high on your list. I would want someplace where my kids education would not be jeopardized by stupid political games.

It’s 30-40% translating to a $7B hole in the US economy. There’s a post about this in the previous page.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2025 10:52     Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
To add to the tourism losses, the U.S. economy gets something like 500B from foreign students studying here. Many this year can get their visas — schools are anticipating something like a 20% drop. And I would guess that will lead to permanent declines — if you were a parent abroad picking a college for your kid, I can’t imagine the U.S. would be high on your list. I would want someplace where my kids education would not be jeopardized by stupid political games.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2025 10:49     Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disney is saying 8% increase for parks and cruises. Shouldn't this be a drop with all the foreigners staying away?

Disney Parks are not just Orlando and Anaheim. I would think their revenue numbers include the parks in Paris, Hong Kong, Shanghai, and Tokyo. Disney also has cruise lines that operate outside the US.


I would actually love to see the breakdowns. We go to disney and universal regularly and in my experience the foreign tourists peak in January and February when the southern hemisphere has summer vacation and it seems like the Brit’s also get a long vacation break in winter. We usually see big groups of South American teens on school trips …. I would assume those groups will not be coming (can you imagine the disaster being the chaperon and having a kid get detained?).
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2025 23:23     Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:I flew from Dulles airport to Paris a few days ago. Dulles was completely empty - no lines anywhere. When we got to Paris, the airport was the most crowded I’ve ever seen. Last year I did the same flight also in August and it took hours to get through security etc in Dulles.
You don't have to take your shoes off anymore. You don't have to show your boarding pass. You don't have to remove devices in some of the regular security lanes, depending on the scanner.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2025 23:09     Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:A gift link so you can read all about how the sticky orange idiot is driving down tourism with his reckless stupid behavior

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/26/travel/foreign-travel-to-united-states-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.604.GaMS.EtJDgJtt-uqo&smid=url-share

International tourists detained at U.S. borders. Steep tariffs imposed on trade partners. Threats against longtime allies.

The onslaught of contested policies and language by the Trump administration in recent weeks is causing tourists around the globe to either cancel or reconsider travel to the United States. A growing number of visitors say they feel unwelcome or unsafe and are reluctant to support the economy of a country that some foreign officials say is waging trade wars and destabilizing its allies. A draft of a new travel ban circulating through the administration could restrict citizens from up to 43 countries, including Belarus, Cambodia and St. Lucia, from entering the United States.

“So many Americans are looking to escape the tense and toxic atmosphere at home. Why would anyone want to visit, especially right now with all the arbitrary detentions at immigration?” said Mallory Henderson, 53, a marketing consultant in London who usually visits the United States twice a year, but canceled a trip to visit her brother and niece in Boston this Easter.

“It’s a really hostile and scary time, and quite frankly, there’s plenty of other inviting and pleasant places I can go to meet up with my family,” she said.


It's worth a read - not just anecdotes, but data showing tourism down.

I know, great, right? Who needs tourism! Other than it bringing $2.3 trillion to the US economy - or not!


Anyone else feel like it's similar to '20 more people staying home having staycations or camping trips, tho travel to Europe and Canada is surging
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2025 22:54     Subject: Re:‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe they can convert the hotels into manufacturing plants.


Then all the whale killing wind turbines can be made here instead of China !!

Save the Whales!
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2025 20:08     Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
I flew from Dulles airport to Paris a few days ago. Dulles was completely empty - no lines anywhere. When we got to Paris, the airport was the most crowded I’ve ever seen. Last year I did the same flight also in August and it took hours to get through security etc in Dulles.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2025 20:00     Subject: ‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disney is saying 8% increase for parks and cruises. Shouldn't this be a drop with all the foreigners staying away?


just more americans going to disney instead of abroad, most likely

This. We usually go overseas for summer vacation but not this year. As naturalized citizens we do not want to take the risk.
Anonymous
Post 08/08/2025 19:51     Subject: Re:‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.
I hate Trump and all his dirtbag minions like Bondi and Noem. I hate Vance, his heir apparent. They are destroying middle class livelihoods. We are living in autocracy, laws are irrelevant, the Supreme Court does whatever he commands. It’s surreal.