Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here it is Dems! The painful truth.

What Democrats should do is apologize.

The voters DO want servant leaders who care more about what THEY want than what WE believe.

The voters do NOT want know-it-alls, snobs, or leaders who resent voters for daring to choose the other party once in a while.

The customer is always right. We can either cling to our belief that WE are always right and the customers are wrong, or we can apologize for our past failures to give the customers what they want, apologize for disrespecting the customers, change our offerings, and try to earn back their business.

If we can’t even apologize, then they know we don’t intend to respect their wishes over our own beliefs going forward either.

Here is just a partial list of what swing voters and flyover state viters want us to apologize for:

1) Covid overreach. I know, I know, we f**king love science and the voters are stupid. It doesn’t matter. The voters reject our belief that we helped against Covid, and they are furious about forced masking of children, school closures, and forced injections on penalty of job loss. They were also very shaken by what they saw as our totalitarian streak. A lot of us were very cruel to neighbors and even family members. I know it will be very difficult psychologically for us to admit any fault here. We were on the right side of this, our intentions were good, etc. But so far basically none of us have said sorry to anyone for any of this. If we want swing voters back, we have to say sorry.

2) Illegal Immigration

3) Using affirmative action to harm white workers

4) LGBTQIA+ education in elementary schools. (I agree, it’s a good thing. It teaches kids tolerance. Rs make too big a deal of it. But remember, they are the customers. If we’re the “force unpopular things down your throat Party,” they won’t vote for us. We went too far (for THEIR liking), and for that, we should apologize

5) Inflation. Yes it was Covid, the Fed, and Trump’s fault too. But our team printed and borrowed and spent too much money.

6) Calling voters stupid racists

Think about it. We win’t like this prescription, but without it we can’t get the votes back

This. But Dems can’t apologize. They think too highly of themselves. There’s no way America’s moral and intellectual superiors are going to grovel for votes from “stupid” people in flyover states.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here it is Dems! The painful truth.

What Democrats should do is apologize.

The voters DO want servant leaders who care more about what THEY want than what WE believe.

The voters do NOT want know-it-alls, snobs, or leaders who resent voters for daring to choose the other party once in a while.

The customer is always right. We can either cling to our belief that WE are always right and the customers are wrong, or we can apologize for our past failures to give the customers what they want, apologize for disrespecting the customers, change our offerings, and try to earn back their business.

If we can’t even apologize, then they know we don’t intend to respect their wishes over our own beliefs going forward either.

Here is just a partial list of what swing voters and flyover state viters want us to apologize for:

1) Covid overreach. I know, I know, we f**king love science and the voters are stupid. It doesn’t matter. The voters reject our belief that we helped against Covid, and they are furious about forced masking of children, school closures, and forced injections on penalty of job loss. They were also very shaken by what they saw as our totalitarian streak. A lot of us were very cruel to neighbors and even family members. I know it will be very difficult psychologically for us to admit any fault here. We were on the right side of this, our intentions were good, etc. But so far basically none of us have said sorry to anyone for any of this. If we want swing voters back, we have to say sorry.

2) Illegal Immigration

3) Using affirmative action to harm white workers

4) LGBTQIA+ education in elementary schools. (I agree, it’s a good thing. It teaches kids tolerance. Rs make too big a deal of it. But remember, they are the customers. If we’re the “force unpopular things down your throat Party,” they won’t vote for us. We went too far (for THEIR liking), and for that, we should apologize

5) Inflation. Yes it was Covid, the Fed, and Trump’s fault too. But our team printed and borrowed and spent too much money.

6) Calling voters stupid racists

Think about it. We win’t like this prescription, but without it we can’t get the votes back

This. But Dems can’t apologize. They think too highly of themselves. There’s no way America’s moral and intellectual superiors are going to grovel for votes from “stupid” people in flyover states.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here it is Dems! The painful truth.

What Democrats should do is apologize.

The voters DO want servant leaders who care more about what THEY want than what WE believe.

The voters do NOT want know-it-alls, snobs, or leaders who resent voters for daring to choose the other party once in a while.

The customer is always right. We can either cling to our belief that WE are always right and the customers are wrong, or we can apologize for our past failures to give the customers what they want, apologize for disrespecting the customers, change our offerings, and try to earn back their business.

If we can’t even apologize, then they know we don’t intend to respect their wishes over our own beliefs going forward either.

Here is just a partial list of what swing voters and flyover state viters want us to apologize for:

1) Covid overreach. I know, I know, we f**king love science and the voters are stupid. It doesn’t matter. The voters reject our belief that we helped against Covid, and they are furious about forced masking of children, school closures, and forced injections on penalty of job loss. They were also very shaken by what they saw as our totalitarian streak. A lot of us were very cruel to neighbors and even family members. I know it will be very difficult psychologically for us to admit any fault here. We were on the right side of this, our intentions were good, etc. But so far basically none of us have said sorry to anyone for any of this. If we want swing voters back, we have to say sorry.

2) Illegal Immigration

3) Using affirmative action to harm white workers

4) LGBTQIA+ education in elementary schools. (I agree, it’s a good thing. It teaches kids tolerance. Rs make too big a deal of it. But remember, they are the customers. If we’re the “force unpopular things down your throat Party,” they won’t vote for us. We went too far (for THEIR liking), and for that, we should apologize

5) Inflation. Yes it was Covid, the Fed, and Trump’s fault too. But our team printed and borrowed and spent too much money.

6) Calling voters stupid racists

Think about it. We win’t like this prescription, but without it we can’t get the votes back

This. But Dems can’t apologize. They think too highly of themselves. There’s no way America’s moral and intellectual superiors are going to grovel for votes from “stupid” people in flyover states.

Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of this is related to the general mismanagement of state and local governments in red states. The economies are generally crap there with poor schooling options, healthcare and few jobs.

They keep voting for these bad ideas and just sink further and further into anger and resentment. Their local leaders say blame the feds, that they are being stolen from, rigging the system so they can’t win, and they just buy into it.

Dems gave up competing in those areas and now the narrative is pretty firmly set.

These people are going to stop the rest of the country from progressing further until they feel like their lives are better.

Anonymous wrote:Here it is Dems! The painful truth.

What Democrats should do is apologize.

The voters DO want servant leaders who care more about what THEY want than what WE believe.

The voters do NOT want know-it-alls, snobs, or leaders who resent voters for daring to choose the other party once in a while.

The customer is always right. We can either cling to our belief that WE are always right and the customers are wrong, or we can apologize for our past failures to give the customers what they want, apologize for disrespecting the customers, change our offerings, and try to earn back their business.

If we can’t even apologize, then they know we don’t intend to respect their wishes over our own beliefs going forward either.

Here is just a partial list of what swing voters and flyover state viters want us to apologize for:

1) Covid overreach. I know, I know, we f**king love science and the voters are stupid. It doesn’t matter. The voters reject our belief that we helped against Covid, and they are furious about forced masking of children, school closures, and forced injections on penalty of job loss. They were also very shaken by what they saw as our totalitarian streak. A lot of us were very cruel to neighbors and even family members. I know it will be very difficult psychologically for us to admit any fault here. We were on the right side of this, our intentions were good, etc. But so far basically none of us have said sorry to anyone for any of this. If we want swing voters back, we have to say sorry.

2) Illegal Immigration

3) Using affirmative action to harm white workers

4) LGBTQIA+ education in elementary schools. (I agree, it’s a good thing. It teaches kids tolerance. Rs make too big a deal of it. But remember, they are the customers. If we’re the “force unpopular things down your throat Party,” they won’t vote for us. We went too far (for THEIR liking), and for that, we should apologize

5) Inflation. Yes it was Covid, the Fed, and Trump’s fault too. But our team printed and borrowed and spent too much money.

6) Calling voters stupid racists

Think about it. We win’t like this prescription, but without it we can’t get the votes back

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So instead, you vote for people totally committed to destroying the country?

There is no winning here

In my opinion, Democrats are committed to destroying the country. They overtax and spend massive levels of money on wasteful and fraudulent government programs, leading to deficits. They allow overwhelming levels of illegal immigration. They refuse to crack down on crime on the streets. They insist on promoting the transgender and DEI agenda. In my opinion, those policies are destroying the country as a place I want to live.

Well, the problems with revenue are very much because of tax cuts on the rich for 20+ years. Actually, going back to the 80s, but accelerated in the 2000s.

Exactly! The so-called “revenue problem” the repuglicans constantly whine about could all disappear tomorrow if the billionaires and zillionaires would just stop being so greedy and pay their fair share!

Trump, Bezos, Musk, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg: these guys could pay off the U.S. debt and barely feel any financial pain at all. And thousands of other ultra-rich big corporation owners too.

But they are all just greedy capitalists who constantly prove they don’t really care about the U.S.

Just look how little Trump pays in taxes. I’m 100% sure the others cheat just as much on their taxes while the rest of us slave away.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So instead, you vote for people totally committed to destroying the country?

There is no winning here

In my opinion, Democrats are committed to destroying the country. They overtax and spend massive levels of money on wasteful and fraudulent government programs, leading to deficits. They allow overwhelming levels of illegal immigration. They refuse to crack down on crime on the streets. They insist on promoting the transgender and DEI agenda. In my opinion, those policies are destroying the country as a place I want to live.

Well, the problems with revenue are very much because of tax cuts on the rich for 20+ years. Actually, going back to the 80s, but accelerated in the 2000s.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So instead, you vote for people totally committed to destroying the country?

There is no winning here

In my opinion, Democrats are committed to destroying the country. They overtax and spend massive levels of money on wasteful and fraudulent government programs, leading to deficits. They allow overwhelming levels of illegal immigration. They refuse to crack down on crime on the streets. They insist on promoting the transgender and DEI agenda. In my opinion, those policies are destroying the country as a place I want to live.

Democrats aren’t promoting a DEI agenda. In fact they rarely bring it up. And I’ve yet to hear a reasoned issue with DEI.

Joe Biden signed an executive order ensure DEI is infused through out the government. The Democrats care more about someone’s race, gender and sexual orientation than their merit. It’s a discriminatory agenda.

What is merit?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So instead, you vote for people totally committed to destroying the country?

There is no winning here

In my opinion, Democrats are committed to destroying the country. They overtax and spend massive levels of money on wasteful and fraudulent government programs, leading to deficits. They allow overwhelming levels of illegal immigration. They refuse to crack down on crime on the streets. They insist on promoting the transgender and DEI agenda. In my opinion, those policies are destroying the country as a place I want to live.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems seem to think they can just make a few tweaks, correct a few mistakes, and move on. But that would only work if the voters had no memories. Of COURSE Dems should ease up on promoting migrants and trans folks. Of COURSE Dems should stop calling the voters stupid racists. But will the voters really come back and say, “Thanks for not calking me a stupid racist this year—here’s my vote”? No. Voter dislike of Dems is permanent. By all means, Dems should behave better. But they can’t be that optimistic. People aren’t stupid. They know Dems hate normal Americans. Even if they manage to start hiding it better.

I'm afraid you are correct. Our brand is coated with a stink that can't be removed with any known solvent.

Or maybe the voters could try not being stupid racists.

What you’re not getting is that this is who these Americans are. This is what they want. They want radical change, because they think they’re being left behind. They voted for a dictator to punish those uppity brown people and women and foreigners. Now they have one, and they’re ecstatic. Nothing the Democrats could possibly say or do can penetrate a bubble built on fear and hatred. Facts don’t matter. Logic doesn’t matter. Empathy doesn’t matter. Christian values don’t matter. For the past few decades, they’ve been carefully taught to hate anyone with a D attached to their name.

You’re inside that same bubble too, gloating over imaginary caricatures of preening out of touch Democrats. Nothing the Democrats do would make them palatable to you unless they move further to the right. Why on earth would they do that? Then they wouldn’t be Democrats any longer. They’d be moderate Republicans, of the sort that voters keep rejecting in favor of ever more extreme MAGA candidates.

The center isn’t coming back. This country is more polarized than it’s ever been. We can’t even agree on a common set of facts or beliefs anymore.

This isn’t a Democrat problem. It’s a voter problem. They are the ones responsible for waking up and realizing the GOP’s smash and destroy mission isn’t making their lives better, just as a drug addict is responsible for getting clean. Until they hit rock bottom, everything their friends and family say will get perceived as moralistic nagging. That seems to be your main peeve with Democrats, that they should get off their moral high horse, stop nagging, and… what, start enabling?

People like you are the reason Democrats will lose election after election. You don’t think your policies are the problem. You think voters are the problem. People with your disgusting attitude brought Trump back into power and are the reason many Americans, such as myself, will never vote for a Democrat ever again. We even consider a felon and an authoritarian preferable to a Democrat. Your party is incapable of self reflection and will continue to lose because of it. You specialize in denigrating and talking down to people and promoting crazy policies like open borders and the radical trans agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dems seem to think they can just make a few tweaks, correct a few mistakes, and move on. But that would only work if the voters had no memories. Of COURSE Dems should ease up on promoting migrants and trans folks. Of COURSE Dems should stop calling the voters stupid racists. But will the voters really come back and say, “Thanks for not calking me a stupid racist this year—here’s my vote”? No. Voter dislike of Dems is permanent. By all means, Dems should behave better. But they can’t be that optimistic. People aren’t stupid. They know Dems hate normal Americans. Even if they manage to start hiding it better.

I'm afraid you are correct. Our brand is coated with a stink that can't be removed with any known solvent.

Or maybe the voters could try not being stupid racists.

What you’re not getting is that this is who these Americans are. This is what they want. They want radical change, because they think they’re being left behind. They voted for a dictator to punish those uppity brown people and women and foreigners. Now they have one, and they’re ecstatic. Nothing the Democrats could possibly say or do can penetrate a bubble built on fear and hatred. Facts don’t matter. Logic doesn’t matter. Empathy doesn’t matter. Christian values don’t matter. For the past few decades, they’ve been carefully taught to hate anyone with a D attached to their name.

You’re inside that same bubble too, gloating over imaginary caricatures of preening out of touch Democrats. Nothing the Democrats do would make them palatable to you unless they move further to the right. Why on earth would they do that? Then they wouldn’t be Democrats any longer. They’d be moderate Republicans, of the sort that voters keep rejecting in favor of ever more extreme MAGA candidates.

The center isn’t coming back. This country is more polarized than it’s ever been. We can’t even agree on a common set of facts or beliefs anymore.

This isn’t a Democrat problem. It’s a voter problem. They are the ones responsible for waking up and realizing the GOP’s smash and destroy mission isn’t making their lives better, just as a drug addict is responsible for getting clean. Until they hit rock bottom, everything their friends and family say will get perceived as moralistic nagging. That seems to be your main peeve with Democrats, that they should get off their moral high horse, stop nagging, and… what, start enabling?

You need votes from people you despise. You are incapable of empathizing with them. Good luck with that!

The problem isn’t that Dems don’t empathize. It’s that they as a party are not willing to capitulate to going backwards, especially to an era where so many were oppressed and marginalized for the benefit of a few. Which is exactly Why they see Trump and company as a problem. The Dems understand progress, compromise, and reflection. As others have said, if the voters want Trump and his brand of politics and government then they’re in luck. If not, then they need to really begin to reflect on what it is they do want.

You are not the enlightened person you think you are, and many of us don’t see your radical policies as progress, more like the destruction of the country. Take your open borders, pro-criminal, radical trans and DEI agenda elsewhere and go ruin someone else’s country.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dems seem to think they can just make a few tweaks, correct a few mistakes, and move on. But that would only work if the voters had no memories. Of COURSE Dems should ease up on promoting migrants and trans folks. Of COURSE Dems should stop calling the voters stupid racists. But will the voters really come back and say, “Thanks for not calking me a stupid racist this year—here’s my vote”? No. Voter dislike of Dems is permanent. By all means, Dems should behave better. But they can’t be that optimistic. People aren’t stupid. They know Dems hate normal Americans. Even if they manage to start hiding it better.

I'm afraid you are correct. Our brand is coated with a stink that can't be removed with any known solvent.

Or maybe the voters could try not being stupid racists.

What you’re not getting is that this is who these Americans are. This is what they want. They want radical change, because they think they’re being left behind. They voted for a dictator to punish those uppity brown people and women and foreigners. Now they have one, and they’re ecstatic. Nothing the Democrats could possibly say or do can penetrate a bubble built on fear and hatred. Facts don’t matter. Logic doesn’t matter. Empathy doesn’t matter. Christian values don’t matter. For the past few decades, they’ve been carefully taught to hate anyone with a D attached to their name.

You’re inside that same bubble too, gloating over imaginary caricatures of preening out of touch Democrats. Nothing the Democrats do would make them palatable to you unless they move further to the right. Why on earth would they do that? Then they wouldn’t be Democrats any longer. They’d be moderate Republicans, of the sort that voters keep rejecting in favor of ever more extreme MAGA candidates.

The center isn’t coming back. This country is more polarized than it’s ever been. We can’t even agree on a common set of facts or beliefs anymore.

This isn’t a Democrat problem. It’s a voter problem. They are the ones responsible for waking up and realizing the GOP’s smash and destroy mission isn’t making their lives better, just as a drug addict is responsible for getting clean. Until they hit rock bottom, everything their friends and family say will get perceived as moralistic nagging. That seems to be your main peeve with Democrats, that they should get off their moral high horse, stop nagging, and… what, start enabling?

People like you are the reason Democrats will lose election after election. You don’t think your policies are the problem. You think voters are the problem. People with your disgusting attitude brought Trump back into power and are the reason many Americans, such as myself, will never vote for a Democrat ever again. We even consider a felon and an authoritarian preferable to a Democrat. Your party is incapable of self reflection and will continue to lose because of it. You specialize in denigrating and talking down to people and promoting crazy policies like open borders and the radical trans agenda.