Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If we can't find the money for after-school programs for middle school kids, we absolutely should get rid of TJHSST, IB, and AAP centers. There is absolutely no justification for a magnet HS or these "extras" if we can't cover the basics for middle school kids.

At a minimum we should get rid of busses for choice programs like AAP Centers and TJ.

Good lord- your kid didn’t get in, we get it, but this is getting boring as a retort at this point. Think of something new. Maybe cutting all the coaches, or central office staff!

You post this same thing anytime anyone proposes getting rid of busses for AAP. Most schools offer AAP and most families keep their kids at their base schools. If they choose to send their kids to another school (just like if they sent them to language immersion or one of the arts schools), they should provide transportation. I get providing bussing for schools that don't offer LLIV, but if it's a choice, you should provide your own transportation.

- Mom who has had two kids go through the LLIV program and are doing great in middle school AAP (at our base school btw).

I haven’t posted before, but I’m sure the sentiment that math and reading coaches and specialists at the county level are not really helping teachers or kids has been thought of before. Just as people keep complaining about AAP like it is a sink hole of money. Frankly, i think it probably has kept more MC and UMC parents in the school system and it is the reason there aren’t robust private schools in the area. Parents who are strivers can aim to get their kid in AAP and feel like they have achieved greatness in education and then they don’t move out of the district. FCPS would have had a brain drain long before this without AAP.

My AAP kid was at her home school and base middle school and doing fine, but the CONSTANT harping on AAP buses is crazy.

No one has said how much it costs to run, or how it compares to middle school after school activities, it is just harping because they don’t like the program.

Be creative, think of something new to cut because if you think this is going with the boundary changes, that will be an entirely different and perhaps uglier battleamong FCPS parents.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we can't find the money for after-school programs for middle school kids, we absolutely should get rid of TJHSST, IB, and AAP centers. There is absolutely no justification for a magnet HS or these "extras" if we can't cover the basics for middle school kids.

At a minimum we should get rid of busses for choice programs like AAP Centers and TJ.

Good lord- your kid didn’t get in, we get it, but this is getting boring as a retort at this point. Think of something new. Maybe cutting all the coaches, or central office staff!

They already cut all the coaches for Middle School. It's strange that Prince William County has less money than Fairfax but still has Middle School sports. They have a different version of AAP - where kids are pulled for an entire day once a week - and kids can go to specialized middle schools/high schools for IB or computer tech or whatever. Seems to me, FCPS just mismanages all their money.

PW has tons of data center money. They also have larger class sizes than FCPS.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we can't find the money for after-school programs for middle school kids, we absolutely should get rid of TJHSST, IB, and AAP centers. There is absolutely no justification for a magnet HS or these "extras" if we can't cover the basics for middle school kids.

At a minimum we should get rid of busses for choice programs like AAP Centers and TJ.

Good lord- your kid didn’t get in, we get it, but this is getting boring as a retort at this point. Think of something new. Maybe cutting all the coaches, or central office staff!

They already cut all the coaches for Middle School. It's strange that Prince William County has less money than Fairfax but still has Middle School sports. They have a different version of AAP - where kids are pulled for an entire day once a week - and kids can go to specialized middle schools/high schools for IB or computer tech or whatever. Seems to me, FCPS just mismanages all their money.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we can't find the money for after-school programs for middle school kids, we absolutely should get rid of TJHSST, IB, and AAP centers. There is absolutely no justification for a magnet HS or these "extras" if we can't cover the basics for middle school kids.

At a minimum we should get rid of busses for choice programs like AAP Centers and TJ.

Good lord- your kid didn’t get in, we get it, but this is getting boring as a retort at this point. Think of something new. Maybe cutting all the coaches, or central office staff!

You post this same thing anytime anyone proposes getting rid of busses for AAP. Most schools offer AAP and most families keep their kids at their base schools. If they choose to send their kids to another school (just like if they sent them to language immersion or one of the arts schools), they should provide transportation. I get providing bussing for schools that don't offer LLIV, but if it's a choice, you should provide your own transportation.

- Mom who has had two kids go through the LLIV program and are doing great in middle school AAP (at our base school btw).

Apparently NCS proposed the cuts.

Anonymous wrote:Is this being cut because of federal funding being cut because of FCPS refusing to comply with Trump's executive orders? Please correct me if I'm wrong

You are wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that people on this thread can’t understand there are two budgets (and the county one cuts MSAS) despite several posts explaining it is discouraging.

I posted budgets. This is a joint county and schools program. MS letter confirming joint program - closes at 4:30
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScd8ACf3oPOdytk57wvZgF4qGdbygISf8y7r3nOq-3sRIDXLw/viewform

Carson at the beginning of the year had 3 days of the late bus-T,W, TH. Like all schools there were block A and then B. Calendar for Carson now has 4 days of transportation.

This is a county only program NOT at school sites, open when school is closed, school in session oprn until 5:30 with a light meal. FCPS buses on school days?
County also runs prek sites some for very young children

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/neighborhood-community-services/afterschool-programs

My post above. See program budget https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY-2025-Program-Budget.pdf
p 162 - FCPS runs the MS after school programs, staff to structure, and the county contributes. The late bus cost is on a separate item under transportation. That category also has transporation for: AAP, elementary magnets, TJ. Shave off magnet $, extra AAP bus, some IB extras and FCPS has enough for normal MS after school programs.

Odd that FCPS doesn't split late bus between middle and high school. No one knows true cost of immersion be it extra staff or gen ed staffing flipped to immersion creating higher class size ratios for other classes.

Anonymous wrote:There is $6M+ in FCPS DEI money (at least) that can be reprioritized

FCPS should stop spending on dumb things and keep critical programs like this instead

We need a DOGE for Fairfax County

Nobody needs a DOGE. Reckless cuts that affect public health and safety that need to be walked back. Plus highly paid doge employees who seem to make mistakes constantly. Talk about waste and abuse.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we can't find the money for after-school programs for middle school kids, we absolutely should get rid of TJHSST, IB, and AAP centers. There is absolutely no justification for a magnet HS or these "extras" if we can't cover the basics for middle school kids.

At a minimum we should get rid of busses for choice programs like AAP Centers and TJ.

Good lord- your kid didn’t get in, we get it, but this is getting boring as a retort at this point. Think of something new. Maybe cutting all the coaches, or central office staff!

There is $6M+ in FCPS DEI money (at least) that can be reprioritized

FCPS should stop spending on dumb things and keep critical programs like this instead

We need a DOGE for Fairfax County

Anonymous wrote:Is this being cut because of federal funding being cut because of FCPS refusing to comply with Trump's executive orders? Please correct me if I'm wrong

You are wrong.
And so is Trump. School Boards are in charge of policy, regulations, and curriculum at a local level.

Fairfax county needs to offer more services to undocumented people and also people from under-resourced communities.

Anonymous wrote:Is this being cut because of federal funding being cut because of FCPS refusing to comply with Trump's executive orders? Please correct me if I'm wrong

If you had read the thread you would know you were wrong. Fairfax County has a deficit and the Fairfax County office that provides the funds for a specific after school program, MSAS I think it is, is cutting that program. FCPS does not fun this program. I know that late busses have been used at MS for a good amount of time so it is not clear to me if those funds helped to pay for the late busses or just specific after school activities.

Is this being cut because of federal funding being cut because of FCPS refusing to comply with Trump's executive orders? Please correct me if I'm wrong

Anonymous wrote:If we can't find the money for after-school programs for middle school kids, we absolutely should get rid of TJHSST, IB, and AAP centers. There is absolutely no justification for a magnet HS or these "extras" if we can't cover the basics for middle school kids.

At a minimum we should get rid of busses for choice programs like AAP Centers and TJ.