Anonymous
Post 02/21/2025 16:17     Subject: Re:Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous wrote:Sorry don’t have patience to scroll back to where anyone is actually on topic.

I think if US and Russia come to a peace agreement on Ukraine, Zelensky has little choice but to accept even it requires that he be exiled to one of his many estates outside of Ukraine.

This is news to me. Do you have citations to back up your statement?


I'm still waiting.

Either you back up your statement with facts of you're a lying POS.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2025 15:51     Subject: Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you think Ramstein and other European bases will be shut down? There’s a few airbases in the UK too. The would save tons of money.


Penny wise and pound foolish. Most Americans have no clue what those bases do, and how vital they are to our own national security.


Are they vital to OUR national security? Or to Europe’s? Please, explain to me exactly how these bases are so vital to our national security. Quicker access to the Middle East so we can fight in more regional conflicts and wars with no winners?

Do any European countries have bases in America?



Yes, OUR security. How can you be so foolish?
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2025 15:47     Subject: Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous wrote:It’s because Ukraine is about more than Ukraine. It’s about a larger strategy/outcome. You would think that should include the EU, but Trump doesn’t currently see them as his equal. However, France is trying to coordinate an EU perspective. Trump, Putin, and Xi want to carve up the world into power blocs. So, if Trump acquiesces to Russia on Ukraine, what will Russia help the US get? Maybe Greenland.


This is the answer.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2025 15:23     Subject: Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is Waltz insisting Ukraine hand over half its minerals to the US OR ELSE? Sounds like a shakedown


That's exactly what it is. Republicans have turned their back on the system of alliances that has made the US the preeminent power in the world for the past 80 years. We have spent trillions and trillions to counter Russian aggression. And then Putin made a mistake and invaded Ukraine. For less than 5 percent of the annual Pentagon budget, Ukrainians have largely destroyed Russia's military capabilities. Ukrainian resistance has been a gift to the Western world. And now Republicans are swooping in like the Mafia to destroy Ukraine and reap the spoils of their new alliance with Russia. I am appalled and disgusted with the Republican Party. Ronald Reagan is doing cartwheels in his grave.


Yes we are abandoning our $1.9 trillion trade partners in Europe for Russia’s $391 billion total world wide trade. 110 billion of that Russian trade is with China and 50-60% is oil and gas. What are we doing???


If the US removes sanctions and begins trading with Russia, Europe will cheerfully follow suit.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2025 15:22     Subject: Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is Waltz insisting Ukraine hand over half its minerals to the US OR ELSE? Sounds like a shakedown


That's exactly what it is. Republicans have turned their back on the system of alliances that has made the US the preeminent power in the world for the past 80 years. We have spent trillions and trillions to counter Russian aggression. And then Putin made a mistake and invaded Ukraine. For less than 5 percent of the annual Pentagon budget, Ukrainians have largely destroyed Russia's military capabilities. Ukrainian resistance has been a gift to the Western world. And now Republicans are swooping in like the Mafia to destroy Ukraine and reap the spoils of their new alliance with Russia. I am appalled and disgusted with the Republican Party. Ronald Reagan is doing cartwheels in his grave.


I think you are rather misstating things, aren't you? If Ukrainians have "largely destroyed" Russia's military capabilities, would 20% of their land be occupied by Russia by now? Ukrainian resistance may have been a gift to the West but it most certainly hasn't been a gift to Ukraine, now was it?
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2025 15:11     Subject: Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is Waltz insisting Ukraine hand over half its minerals to the US OR ELSE? Sounds like a shakedown


That's exactly what it is. Republicans have turned their back on the system of alliances that has made the US the preeminent power in the world for the past 80 years. We have spent trillions and trillions to counter Russian aggression. And then Putin made a mistake and invaded Ukraine. For less than 5 percent of the annual Pentagon budget, Ukrainians have largely destroyed Russia's military capabilities. Ukrainian resistance has been a gift to the Western world. And now Republicans are swooping in like the Mafia to destroy Ukraine and reap the spoils of their new alliance with Russia. I am appalled and disgusted with the Republican Party. Ronald Reagan is doing cartwheels in his grave.


Yes we are abandoning our $1.9 trillion trade partners in Europe for Russia’s $391 billion total world wide trade. 110 billion of that Russian trade is with China and 50-60% is oil and gas. What are we doing???



I am increasingly convinced that the Republican Party has been captured by Russia. It's the only thing that makes sense. Absolutely everything Republicans are doing benefits Putin while harming America's core interests.


This is like siding with Cuba over Mexico and Canada. There is absolutely no gain for the US. It is the opposite of our national interest economically, militarily and values wise. The Russians were caught placing bombs on commercial flights in Europe. Trump and the Republicans are corrupt putin stooges. Wake up America before it’s too late!
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2025 15:02     Subject: Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is Waltz insisting Ukraine hand over half its minerals to the US OR ELSE? Sounds like a shakedown


That's exactly what it is. Republicans have turned their back on the system of alliances that has made the US the preeminent power in the world for the past 80 years. We have spent trillions and trillions to counter Russian aggression. And then Putin made a mistake and invaded Ukraine. For less than 5 percent of the annual Pentagon budget, Ukrainians have largely destroyed Russia's military capabilities. Ukrainian resistance has been a gift to the Western world. And now Republicans are swooping in like the Mafia to destroy Ukraine and reap the spoils of their new alliance with Russia. I am appalled and disgusted with the Republican Party. Ronald Reagan is doing cartwheels in his grave.


Yes we are abandoning our $1.9 trillion trade partners in Europe for Russia’s $391 billion total world wide trade. 110 billion of that Russian trade is with China and 50-60% is oil and gas. What are we doing???



I am increasingly convinced that the Republican Party has been captured by Russia. It's the only thing that makes sense. Absolutely everything Republicans are doing benefits Putin while harming America's core interests.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2025 14:27     Subject: Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is Waltz insisting Ukraine hand over half its minerals to the US OR ELSE? Sounds like a shakedown


That's exactly what it is. Republicans have turned their back on the system of alliances that has made the US the preeminent power in the world for the past 80 years. We have spent trillions and trillions to counter Russian aggression. And then Putin made a mistake and invaded Ukraine. For less than 5 percent of the annual Pentagon budget, Ukrainians have largely destroyed Russia's military capabilities. Ukrainian resistance has been a gift to the Western world. And now Republicans are swooping in like the Mafia to destroy Ukraine and reap the spoils of their new alliance with Russia. I am appalled and disgusted with the Republican Party. Ronald Reagan is doing cartwheels in his grave.


Yes we are abandoning our $1.9 trillion trade partners in Europe for Russia’s $391 billion total world wide trade. 110 billion of that Russian trade is with China and 50-60% is oil and gas. What are we doing???
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2025 14:22     Subject: Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous wrote:Why is Waltz insisting Ukraine hand over half its minerals to the US OR ELSE? Sounds like a shakedown


Well we need the rare earth minerals (lithium) to build EVs…though Trump has said he will kill all EVs in the US.
So why do we need these rare earth minerals?
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2025 09:51     Subject: Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous wrote:Why is Waltz insisting Ukraine hand over half its minerals to the US OR ELSE? Sounds like a shakedown


That's exactly what it is. Republicans have turned their back on the system of alliances that has made the US the preeminent power in the world for the past 80 years. We have spent trillions and trillions to counter Russian aggression. And then Putin made a mistake and invaded Ukraine. For less than 5 percent of the annual Pentagon budget, Ukrainians have largely destroyed Russia's military capabilities. Ukrainian resistance has been a gift to the Western world. And now Republicans are swooping in like the Mafia to destroy Ukraine and reap the spoils of their new alliance with Russia. I am appalled and disgusted with the Republican Party. Ronald Reagan is doing cartwheels in his grave.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2025 08:55     Subject: Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have been paying 75% of the munitions costs. Europe has barely paid 25%.

And the US weapons manufacturers love this, it keeps their businesses profitable and employees busy


It wasn’t an accident. This was the model developed and pushed by US for decades - Europe doesn’t need arms, US is the police if the world and will protect them in exchange for other benefits.

This was US policy and strategy for many years.

And now MAGA is acting like this was unexpected, like Europe cheated them.
BS
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2025 08:49     Subject: Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Why is Waltz insisting Ukraine hand over half its minerals to the US OR ELSE? Sounds like a shakedown
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2025 08:48     Subject: Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I guess I should not be surprised, but it never fails to astound me that now that almost all of the people who remember the horrors of WWII are now dead, we are rapidly repeating the factors that helped caused it, e.g., appeasement of dictators invading other nations. I have more and more respect for the first George W. Bush, who was masterful in assembling an international coalitions to repel that behavior when Sadaam Hussein invaded Kuwait.


Didn't the Soviet Union help the US and Europe?


Yes, and so did Sadaam Hussein for that matter. We keep forgeting he was a "good guy" before he became a "bad guy." Zelensky really should read up on him, and Noriega and Bin Laden, and Qaddafi, and well you know...

This behavior long predates Trump.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2025 08:15     Subject: Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous wrote:I guess I should not be surprised, but it never fails to astound me that now that almost all of the people who remember the horrors of WWII are now dead, we are rapidly repeating the factors that helped caused it, e.g., appeasement of dictators invading other nations. I have more and more respect for the first George W. Bush, who was masterful in assembling an international coalitions to repel that behavior when Sadaam Hussein invaded Kuwait.


Didn't the Soviet Union help the US and Europe?
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2025 08:08     Subject: Why are US and Russia meeting unilaterally to resolve Russia-Ukraine conflict

Anonymous wrote:We have been paying 75% of the munitions costs. Europe has barely paid 25%.

And the US weapons manufacturers love this, it keeps their businesses profitable and employees busy