Anonymous
11/25/2024 23:55
Subject: If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel like Burke accidentally whacking JB too hard is most likely scenario, but what trips me up here is the staging of the body afterward. I can maybe see the parent(s) applying the duct tape and wrist ties... but not the business with the garotte and the paintbrush, nor can I see a little kid Burke's age coming up with that. I just can't picture loving parents doing that to their child even as part of staging a crime scene.
I just watched the first episode and it doesn’t add up. Her wrists were not lightly bound; but very tight. Those neck wounds from the garret (which took quite a bit of skill). She was alive when the garter was made (her hair was caught in it) and the neck torture occurred at about the same time as the head trauma. The autopsy tells a story of torture, not an accidental wack on the head after she stole a piece of Burke’s pineapple or a “cover up.” Patsy comes across as a complete liar and the Fad comes across as innocent-ish. Burke is clearly autistic but that doesn’t make him a psychopath. I would pick Patsy if it wasn’t for the sexual assault with the paintbrush. It had to be the Dad.
And the fact that the police got the DNA results that exonerated all three Ramseys and suppressed that? That DNA was found under her fingernails and on her underwear that belonged to an unidentified male? And that Boulder police planted stories with friendly reporters that were fake implying the Ramseys did it?
Anonymous
11/25/2024 23:02
Subject: Re:If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Were the Menendez brothers legitimately molested by their Father or did they just use the “abuse excuse” to try to avoid prison time??
OF COURSE THEY WERE MOLESTED.
If not - they did a pretty decent acting performance during their first trial.
Their recent claims that the main reason the killed their parents was because they were afraid their Father was going to murder them so they killed their parents as a form of self~defense.
But they were both adults - if they truly feared for their lives they could have just left home.
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF ABUSE.
And why did they feel the need to spend so. much. money so soon after being forced to shoot their parents in self-defense?
IT WAS THE LATE 80S IN BEVERLY HILLS. THIS WAS THE CULTURE. EVERYONE WAS SPENDING LIKE THIS.
When if the letter to the cousin re: being molested was intentionally written 9 mos. prior to the murders as part of the murder plan?
When if they had planned the murders ahead of time then waited the nine mos. so the letter could not be used as a motive for the murder in its initial stage??
OCCUM'S RAZOR. YOU THINK THEY PLANNED THIS FOR 9 MONTHS? NO WAY.
Why did Erik confess to murdering his folks to his therapist yet made no mention of being molested?
I mean, if you feel comfortable confessing something as huge as murdering your own parents to a therapist then you should also feel 💯% comfortable discussing sexual abuse.
NO.
I am the same age as the brothers are now (55) and I disagree with the fact that sexual molestation was super taboo during 1989.
While it wasn’t discussed as much as it is these days - it certainly wasn’t taboo.
I'M 54. IT WAS VERY MUCH TABOO, ESPECIALLY FOR MEN.
I would love to know the mystery of if any incest actually took place prior to the murders….
Still, they were 18 and 21 when they shot their parents. They could have easily rented a place together, so whatever happened in the house doesn't excuse the horrible crime. Remember they also threatened to kill their shrink. These two should never be released.
+1 And if you believe they were abused and they’re justified for killing their father, it’s not an excuse for killing their mother.
Anonymous
11/25/2024 22:50
Subject: If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jon Benet was molested and killed by her older brother and the family covered it up. My father was one of the lead investigators.
I need more please. I really want to know how your father knew this, with facts, and how this never came out. Please.
DP. I met a psychologist at a conference many years after the case who had been an expert consultant. She said the mother was molesting her, and Jon Benet would have told her to stop or resisted in some way. Likely she had learned at school that it was inappropriate. The woman said her mom would have felt like it was her arm telling her it wanted to amputate itself. Like she was so enmeshed her daughter’s “rebellion” was like losing a body part, and that scared her enough to kill her.
Ok this makes sense. In all the interviews, Patsy comes across as lying and cray.
Anonymous
11/25/2024 22:47
Subject: If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
Anonymous wrote:I feel like Burke accidentally whacking JB too hard is most likely scenario, but what trips me up here is the staging of the body afterward. I can maybe see the parent(s) applying the duct tape and wrist ties... but not the business with the garotte and the paintbrush, nor can I see a little kid Burke's age coming up with that. I just can't picture loving parents doing that to their child even as part of staging a crime scene.
I just watched the first episode and it doesn’t add up. Her wrists were not lightly bound; but very tight. Those neck wounds from the garret (which took quite a bit of skill). She was alive when the garter was made (her hair was caught in it) and the neck torture occurred at about the same time as the head trauma. The autopsy tells a story of torture, not an accidental wack on the head after she stole a piece of Burke’s pineapple or a “cover up.” Patsy comes across as a complete liar and the Fad comes across as innocent-ish. Burke is clearly autistic but that doesn’t make him a psychopath. I would pick Patsy if it wasn’t for the sexual assault with the paintbrush. It had to be the Dad.
Anonymous
11/25/2024 22:12
Subject: If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jon Benet was molested and killed by her older brother and the family covered it up. My father was one of the lead investigators.
I need more please. I really want to know how your father knew this, with facts, and how this never came out. Please.
DP. I met a psychologist at a conference many years after the case who had been an expert consultant. She said the mother was molesting her, and Jon Benet would have told her to stop or resisted in some way. Likely she had learned at school that it was inappropriate. The woman said her mom would have felt like it was her arm telling her it wanted to amputate itself. Like she was so enmeshed her daughter’s “rebellion” was like losing a body part, and that scared her enough to kill her.
Anonymous
11/25/2024 22:09
Subject: Re:If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
+1
I dont even need to know where it ended up, I just want to know exactly why and I do not believe the convenient suicidal pilot theory when it makes little sense for him to take an entire plane full of people
+2 Had friends on it, and it will haunt me forever. Not one person called anyone. Makes zero sense.
I’m sorry for your loss. Below is the theory from the Atlantic article. You may want to skip.
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Passengers were already dead long before the plane went down, so they couldn’t have had time to contact anyone.
Theory is he depressurized the cabin to knock everyone out. He donned the oxygen mask for pilots that supplies several hours of oxygen.
Passengers essentially drifted away in their sleep.
Anonymous
11/25/2024 21:44
Subject: Re:If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
+1
I dont even need to know where it ended up, I just want to know exactly why and I do not believe the convenient suicidal pilot theory when it makes little sense for him to take an entire plane full of people
+2 Had friends on it, and it will haunt me forever. Not one person called anyone. Makes zero sense.
Anonymous
11/25/2024 21:39
Subject: If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maura Murry
She froze in the woods
Agree. The odds that some psycho rando happened upon her at that exact moment are slim to none
This one has fascinated me ever since it happened in 2004. There are just so many questions that are unanswered about the event, and the whole scenario makes very little sense.
What was she doing driving through such a remote part of New Hampshire in the dead of winter in an unreliable car?
Was there another person following her who's car she got into immediately after her car crashed?
If she did freeze in the woods, would someone one have found some evidence of her remains in the twenty years since the incident occurred?
The further away from the event we get, the less likely it is that we'll ever get these answers, but it's so easy to go down a rabbit hole with this case.
Anonymous
11/25/2024 21:16
Subject: If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
The Bermuda Triangle was a very, very bid deal when I was a kid.
Also, I was taught to live in mortal fear of quicksand, that it was everywhere, and I needed to be vigilant at all times. Where'd it all go?
Also, I was taught to live in mortal fear of quicksand, that it was everywhere, and I needed to be vigilant at all times. Where'd it all go?
Anonymous
11/25/2024 21:07
Subject: If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
Anonymous wrote:How the royal family had Diana killed in Paris and made it look like an accident. The only person who survived was Diana's Met protection officer.
Same. The chauffeur's family and friends emphatically stated he did not drink, but the authorities claimed his blood alcohol level was very high. Uh, huh.
Anonymous
11/25/2024 21:01
Subject: If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
How the royal family had Diana killed in Paris and made it look like an accident. The only person who survived was Diana's Met protection officer.
Anonymous
11/25/2024 20:34
Subject: If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also- why did the parents not wake up Burke to be like DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR SISTER IS DID YOU SEE OR HEAR ANYTHING. Especially considering they used to get into each others beds at night
Right, and they send him off to a friend's house with no concern about these supposed kidnappers? If they believe that because of John's business someone has literally kidnapped their child and threatened to execute them ... I would think they'd want their eye on the other kid.
Burke being sent away is why I think he had zero involvement. If he killed his sister accidentally or otherwise , and the parents wanted to cover for him, it seems like the last thing they'd do is send him off somewhere and trust that he wouldn't spill any sort of beans. He was only 9.
Exact same.
Anything he said at the friends house would be hearsay. Anything he said to police in the Ramsey home would be evidence. John and Patsy could easily buy out the friends to keep quiet. In fact, they did lose many friends in Boulder.
This. The fact that with all the commotion in the house in the morning, Burke never came downstairs or asked what was going on? And I cannot believe for the life of me that the parents would not wake him up to ask him if he knew what happened to his sister. If Burke has low level autism, which is certainly possible, that could explain the “weird” affect and the lack of concern about where she was , the lack of fear that he could be taken too, acting seemingly normal despite all the commotion and the crying surrounding him. So I can ignore those things. But the parents behavior towards him, to me, is just too strange.
NP. The childlike nature of the murder; the clumsily tied garrote and the means of the SA feel more to me like what a child would do. The paintbrush seems more along the lines of “playing doctor” than what an adult would do. Possibly JB came downstairs, they ate the pineapple snack together, he proceeded to take her downstairs to “play doctor” as they had before and something she did/said made him angry/scared she would tell so he hit her with the flashlight they brought down to shut her up?
The bed soiling/feces smearing and hitting JB with a golf club in the head in the past do make me think it could be him. And the fact that they lied about him being awake and alone downstairs that night and him being awake in the morning when the 911 call was made make me question why they were so secretive about what he was doing and when.
I have never heard a convincing argument that it wasn’t one of the Ramsay’s that did it.
Anonymous
11/25/2024 17:59
Subject: If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also- why did the parents not wake up Burke to be like DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR SISTER IS DID YOU SEE OR HEAR ANYTHING. Especially considering they used to get into each others beds at night
Right, and they send him off to a friend's house with no concern about these supposed kidnappers? If they believe that because of John's business someone has literally kidnapped their child and threatened to execute them ... I would think they'd want their eye on the other kid.
Burke being sent away is why I think he had zero involvement. If he killed his sister accidentally or otherwise , and the parents wanted to cover for him, it seems like the last thing they'd do is send him off somewhere and trust that he wouldn't spill any sort of beans. He was only 9.
Exact same.
Anything he said at the friends house would be hearsay. Anything he said to police in the Ramsey home would be evidence. John and Patsy could easily buy out the friends to keep quiet. In fact, they did lose many friends in Boulder.
This. The fact that with all the commotion in the house in the morning, Burke never came downstairs or asked what was going on? And I cannot believe for the life of me that the parents would not wake him up to ask him if he knew what happened to his sister. If Burke has low level autism, which is certainly possible, that could explain the “weird” affect and the lack of concern about where she was , the lack of fear that he could be taken too, acting seemingly normal despite all the commotion and the crying surrounding him. So I can ignore those things. But the parents behavior towards him, to me, is just too strange.
Anonymous
11/25/2024 16:00
Subject: If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also- why did the parents not wake up Burke to be like DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR SISTER IS DID YOU SEE OR HEAR ANYTHING. Especially considering they used to get into each others beds at night
Right, and they send him off to a friend's house with no concern about these supposed kidnappers? If they believe that because of John's business someone has literally kidnapped their child and threatened to execute them ... I would think they'd want their eye on the other kid.
Burke being sent away is why I think he had zero involvement. If he killed his sister accidentally or otherwise , and the parents wanted to cover for him, it seems like the last thing they'd do is send him off somewhere and trust that he wouldn't spill any sort of beans. He was only 9.
Exact same.
Anything he said at the friends house would be hearsay. Anything he said to police in the Ramsey home would be evidence. John and Patsy could easily buy out the friends to keep quiet. In fact, they did lose many friends in Boulder.
Anonymous
11/25/2024 15:44
Subject: If you could know the truth about any unsolved mystery, which would it be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also- why did the parents not wake up Burke to be like DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR SISTER IS DID YOU SEE OR HEAR ANYTHING. Especially considering they used to get into each others beds at night
Right, and they send him off to a friend's house with no concern about these supposed kidnappers? If they believe that because of John's business someone has literally kidnapped their child and threatened to execute them ... I would think they'd want their eye on the other kid.
Burke being sent away is why I think he had zero involvement. If he killed his sister accidentally or otherwise , and the parents wanted to cover for him, it seems like the last thing they'd do is send him off somewhere and trust that he wouldn't spill any sort of beans. He was only 9.
Exact same.