Anonymous
11/08/2024 10:34
Subject: How can we combat deep misogyny?
Anonymous wrote:It's not a pissing contest. Misogyny put Trump into office twice. Misogyny runs rampant all over the world. We need to fix it. Men and women are better off when we do.
I think most men would choose a better spokesperson than you for what would leave them "better off". Just a hunch.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 10:29
Subject: How can we combat deep misogyny?
Anonymous wrote:It's not a pissing contest. Misogyny put Trump into office twice. Misogyny runs rampant all over the world. We need to fix it. Men and women are better off when we do.
We would be, but apparently majority of men feel very threatened by that and they've convinced a lot of women too that being down and inferior is better for them too.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 10:23
Subject: How can we combat deep misogyny?
It's not a pissing contest. Misogyny put Trump into office twice. Misogyny runs rampant all over the world. We need to fix it. Men and women are better off when we do.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 10:13
Subject: How can we combat deep misogyny?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's apparent that it runs incredibly deep in this country, where a woman's professional status is put under a significantly higher scrutiny than a man's, or the standards for which she could be put in the same professional level with a man (or higher) are impossibly unrealistic. She will never be "enough" even compared to males with mediocrity.
If we can somehow avoid talking about politics, can we please have a serious discussion about how deep misogyny runs in America (and yes, much more than many other places--or at least in different ways) and how we can successfully combat it? Is it possible? What do you think works well in other countries? What can we do here?
deep misogyny = Iran 2024, USA 1800
plenty of opportunities for women = USA 2024
How can we combat deep ignorance?
India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Liberia, Mexico all had female leaders. All definitely less misogynistic than the good ol USA where it runs deeeeeeep.
It's rather strange to form a metric around a single position. I think India's parliament is around 13-14%. For comparison:
Don’t they also still stone women in India?
But they stone men too so it's perfectly balanced, nothing like the deep misogyny we experience here.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 10:12
Subject: How can we combat deep misogyny?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's apparent that it runs incredibly deep in this country, where a woman's professional status is put under a significantly higher scrutiny than a man's, or the standards for which she could be put in the same professional level with a man (or higher) are impossibly unrealistic. She will never be "enough" even compared to males with mediocrity.
If we can somehow avoid talking about politics, can we please have a serious discussion about how deep misogyny runs in America (and yes, much more than many other places--or at least in different ways) and how we can successfully combat it? Is it possible? What do you think works well in other countries? What can we do here?
deep misogyny = Iran 2024, USA 1800
plenty of opportunities for women = USA 2024
How can we combat deep ignorance?
India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Liberia, Mexico all had female leaders. All definitely less misogynistic than the good ol USA where it runs deeeeeeep.
It's rather strange to form a metric around a single position. I think India's parliament is around 13-14%. For comparison:
Don’t they also still stone women in India?
Anonymous
11/08/2024 09:45
Subject: How can we combat deep misogyny?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think women are just as misogynistic towards other women. Women are harder on women and more critical and ready to tear other women down.
I’m a woman and while I agree, I think my husband is just as critical of men as I am of women, and vice versa. We just want competent people leading the way. In the case of this election, both are idiots, but we were better off four years ago with him than we are right now under her.
When you say "we," you mean you, right? Do you really think Americans as a whole are better off? My 13 year old can name 6 other 13 year olds in her circle who don't feel safe now that Trump has been re-elected. THIRTEEN YEAR OLDS! That doesn't bother you at all?!
Feeling is not reality.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 09:44
Subject: How can we combat deep misogyny?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's apparent that it runs incredibly deep in this country, where a woman's professional status is put under a significantly higher scrutiny than a man's, or the standards for which she could be put in the same professional level with a man (or higher) are impossibly unrealistic. She will never be "enough" even compared to males with mediocrity.
If we can somehow avoid talking about politics, can we please have a serious discussion about how deep misogyny runs in America (and yes, much more than many other places--or at least in different ways) and how we can successfully combat it? Is it possible? What do you think works well in other countries? What can we do here?
deep misogyny = Iran 2024, USA 1800
plenty of opportunities for women = USA 2024
How can we combat deep ignorance?
India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Liberia, Mexico all had female leaders. All definitely less misogynistic than the good ol USA where it runs deeeeeeep.
It's rather strange to form a metric around a single position. I think India's parliament is around 13-14%. For comparison:
Anonymous
11/08/2024 09:43
Subject: How can we combat deep misogyny?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think women are just as misogynistic towards other women. Women are harder on women and more critical and ready to tear other women down.
I’m a woman and while I agree, I think my husband is just as critical of men as I am of women, and vice versa. We just want competent people leading the way. In the case of this election, both are idiots, but we were better off four years ago with him than we are right now under her.
When you say "we," you mean you, right? Do you really think Americans as a whole are better off? My 13 year old can name 6 other 13 year olds in her circle who don't feel safe now that Trump has been re-elected. THIRTEEN YEAR OLDS! That doesn't bother you at all?!
Anonymous
11/08/2024 09:38
Subject: How can we combat deep misogyny?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's apparent that it runs incredibly deep in this country, where a woman's professional status is put under a significantly higher scrutiny than a man's, or the standards for which she could be put in the same professional level with a man (or higher) are impossibly unrealistic. She will never be "enough" even compared to males with mediocrity.
If we can somehow avoid talking about politics, can we please have a serious discussion about how deep misogyny runs in America (and yes, much more than many other places--or at least in different ways) and how we can successfully combat it? Is it possible? What do you think works well in other countries? What can we do here?
deep misogyny = Iran 2024, USA 1800
plenty of opportunities for women = USA 2024
How can we combat deep ignorance?
India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Liberia, Mexico all had female leaders. All definitely less misogynistic than the good ol USA where it runs deeeeeeep.
With a US passport you can move to any of those countries, and I truly encourage you to give it a try.
There's a reason why there's many more WOMEN coming here than going to any of those.
Woosh...
Anonymous
11/08/2024 09:37
Subject: Re:How can we combat deep misogyny?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One very easy step would be to stop shaming stay at home moms in your community and online. They are women, they are contributors and right now they are given more respect by scum like Vance than Dems, who are afraid to be. acknowledge them for fear of feminist wrath.
Ever heard of the patriarchy? Vance doesn’t respect stay at home moms, he just believes that is what a woman should be. That a woman doesn’t have value behind being a mother. Hence, the childless cat ladies comment. And I’d love you to do a deep dive into Trump’s comments about protecting women…even if they don’t want it. Save it with your “feminist wrath BS.” Women aren’t going to shut up and stay at home just because men don’t like it.
Funny. I thought childless cat ladies were the ones being held in contempt by Vance, not valuable mothers.
Sorry, I thought it was perfectly clear. Vance doesn’t respect any women - childless cat ladies or stay at home moms. It’s not respect for SAH moms he has, it’s a cultural expectation.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 09:36
Subject: How can we combat deep misogyny?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Personally I’m starting with my daughters and the issues they face at school.
As an example, DD was talking with a friend and school and a boy came over and immediately hijacked the conversation, kept telling DD she’s wrong, being overall obnoxious. DD asked him to leave them alone and he refused.
The school teaches the kids to just walk away in that situation. DD instead told the guy to move on or she’d kick his ass.
DD got in trouble and I stood up for her. I explained that the boys need to learn no means no. They aren’t entitled to a conversation with my daughter, they aren’t entitled to make her leave an area she wants to be in.
I’m just so tired of the “boys will be boys” mentality when they’re young. It leads to them growing up to be entitled men.
So DD knows if a boy is giving her problems, we fully support her doing whatever she needs to do to get him to go away.
Nothing in your story indicated a “boys will be boys” mentality.
And your daughter’s reaction was inappropriate. Imagine if a boy said that to her. It’s not ok for any kid to threaten another with physical violence.
It’s the fact that when a girl tells a boy she’s not interested in talking and he won’t listen, she’s supposed to leave, rather than us teaching boys that they need to listen when others say no.
They say that to ALL kids, not just girls. They also expect ALL kids to not threaten physical violence.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 09:34
Subject: How can we combat deep misogyny?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Great news. First female chief of staff!
Doesn't count!
Will she last long if she can’t pass the FBI background check?
FBI background checks are misogynist.
Let those boozy women drive drunk!
Anonymous
11/08/2024 09:34
Subject: How can we combat deep misogyny?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's apparent that it runs incredibly deep in this country, where a woman's professional status is put under a significantly higher scrutiny than a man's, or the standards for which she could be put in the same professional level with a man (or higher) are impossibly unrealistic. She will never be "enough" even compared to males with mediocrity.
If we can somehow avoid talking about politics, can we please have a serious discussion about how deep misogyny runs in America (and yes, much more than many other places--or at least in different ways) and how we can successfully combat it? Is it possible? What do you think works well in other countries? What can we do here?
deep misogyny = Iran 2024, USA 1800
plenty of opportunities for women = USA 2024
How can we combat deep ignorance?
India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Liberia, Mexico all had female leaders. All definitely less misogynistic than the good ol USA where it runs deeeeeeep.
With a US passport you can move to any of those countries, and I truly encourage you to give it a try.
There's a reason why there's many more WOMEN coming here than going to any of those.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 09:30
Subject: How can we combat deep misogyny?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Personally I’m starting with my daughters and the issues they face at school.
As an example, DD was talking with a friend and school and a boy came over and immediately hijacked the conversation, kept telling DD she’s wrong, being overall obnoxious. DD asked him to leave them alone and he refused.
The school teaches the kids to just walk away in that situation. DD instead told the guy to move on or she’d kick his ass.
DD got in trouble and I stood up for her. I explained that the boys need to learn no means no. They aren’t entitled to a conversation with my daughter, they aren’t entitled to make her leave an area she wants to be in.
I’m just so tired of the “boys will be boys” mentality when they’re young. It leads to them growing up to be entitled men.
So DD knows if a boy is giving her problems, we fully support her doing whatever she needs to do to get him to go away.
Nothing in your story indicated a “boys will be boys” mentality.
And your daughter’s reaction was inappropriate. Imagine if a boy said that to her. It’s not ok for any kid to threaten another with physical violence.
It’s the fact that when a girl tells a boy she’s not interested in talking and he won’t listen, she’s supposed to leave, rather than us teaching boys that they need to listen when others say no.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 09:23
Subject: How can we combat deep misogyny?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Great news. First female chief of staff!
Doesn't count!
Will she last long if she can’t pass the FBI background check?
FBI background checks are misogynist.