Anonymous wrote:Waltz has obviously studied and memorized a lot of facts…but he is less fluent/polished.

Vance’s smarminess helps him. He can fluently say whatever he planned to, regardless of the question or facts.

Anonymous wrote:Vance is very smooth. Like a salesman. And he's less nervous and more wily.

But I still don't find him likeable. He's like a well oiled lawyer.

He barely answered the question on whether Israel should fire a preemptive strike on Iran. Instead, he ran out the clock thanking the sponsors and telling his long personal bio. He ended by saying for a few seconds at the end that Israel should do what they think is right. He had zero clue how to answer, and no substance to his answer. He's just a shiny suit.

Anonymous wrote:Vance is prepared, his speech is punctuated, he makes strong clear statements that are simple, easy to understand and repeat and quote.

Walz makes awkward pauses, his speech is less punctuated, the delivery is not as impressive.

- Kamala supporter here, just being honest about my debate impressions so far

Anonymous wrote:Boring and as expected so far, no major missteps yet.

Anonymous wrote:What does Vance mean that his grandmother required Social Security assistance "to raise him"? She either got benefits for herself or, if there were benefits attached to him, they would have been: SS benefits available if his mother was fund to be disabled (which is very hard if the primary disability is drug addiction) or his father (not enough info), or they would have been TANF benefits for children in foster care (TANF pays more money to relatives who foster children than it would to the child's immediate family.

So why didn't he just say they got welfare payments or TANF for him?

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Anonymous wrote:Waltz has obviously studied and memorized a lot of facts…but he is less fluent/polished.

Vance’s smarminess helps him. He can fluently say whatever he planned to, regardless of the question or facts.

Walz is doing fine. He doesn't need to compete with Yale Law. There are far more people in this country who identify with Tim Walz than Vance.

Anonymous wrote:I can’t look at Walz and not think of Don Rickles.