Anonymous
Post 10/03/2024 21:29     Subject: BOYS 2026 DMV Commitments BOYS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The biggest advantage to being in a college bound driven program, call it private if you want to, is that you're surrounded in that mindset and environment. Tough to hold that on your own in the distinct minority of your environment.

There are advantages and disadvantages both ways. There's definitely been a bent in numbers for more of those kids, or call it families if you want to, to go private.

But if anyone has the talent and drive, it likely won't matter where they play high school. Coaching can be a wild card (true anywhere), and it's near impossible at the bottom half+ of publics, but other than that talent and determination drives the bus.


Bent? The list on this thread lists 1 public school player in the entire dmv where public rosters probably outnumber privates 10 to 1.
College coaches aren't beating the bushes looking for talent and determination. The Terps have been a top 5 team for the last 10 years under Tillman and do you know how many coaches are on staff? 3, that's it. They don't have enough hours in the day to be looking for a maybe in the publics in the dmv when they can get a good player getting good grades in a good school at the privates. Yeah, if your kid plays lacrosse then it's a pretty good reason to choose a private over a public.
There are low to mid 30's privates in the DMV, and mid 50's Va publics. Assuming a similar number of Md publics, that's 1:3.

For well over half the publics, there are zero guys with the talent and drive. For the rest, there may be 2-4 per team on average that are even in the neighborhood? That's probably like 100-150 guys. There are more than that on the top 6 teams of privates, never mind the other 20 some odd teams.

We're one month in, there were 5 public D1s just in VA last year. And coaches are getting 90% or more targets by seeing them repeatedly on the club and showcase circuit. That's the model they wanted, they like coaching in the spring, scouting summer. And not that it matters, but there's 4 coaches on staffs now.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2024 20:26     Subject: BOYS 2026 DMV Commitments BOYS
Anonymous wrote:The biggest advantage to being in a college bound driven program, call it private if you want to, is that you're surrounded in that mindset and environment. Tough to hold that on your own in the distinct minority of your environment.

There are advantages and disadvantages both ways. There's definitely been a bent in numbers for more of those kids, or call it families if you want to, to go private.

But if anyone has the talent and drive, it likely won't matter where they play high school. Coaching can be a wild card (true anywhere), and it's near impossible at the bottom half+ of publics, but other than that talent and determination drives the bus.


Bent? The list on this thread lists 1 public school player in the entire dmv where public rosters probably outnumber privates 10 to 1.
College coaches aren't beating the bushes looking for talent and determination. The Terps have been a top 5 team for the last 10 years under Tillman and do you know how many coaches are on staff? 3, that's it. They don't have enough hours in the day to be looking for a maybe in the publics in the dmv when they can get a good player getting good grades in a good school at the privates. Yeah, if your kid plays lacrosse then it's a pretty good reason to choose a private over a public.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2024 18:59     Subject: Re:BOYS 2026 DMV Commitments BOYS
Madlax 2026 - US Club Rank #67
1 University of Maryland (Good Counsel) Midfield
1 John Hopkins (STAB) Attack
1 John Hopkins (Landon) LSM/Defender

Next Level 2026 - US Club Rank #26
1 Princeton (Georgetown Prep) Attack
1 Navy (Landon) Attack/Mid
1 Navy (St John) Defender Midfield
2 Michigan (Lawrenceville/Deerfield) Mid/Attack, Midfield
1 Brown (St Andrew) Goalie
1 Georgetown (St John) LSM/Defender
1 Army (GP) Fogo
1 Syracuse (St John) Defender
1 Towson (St John) Attack
1 Rutgers (GZ) Attack
1 Dartmouth (Culver) Midfield

DC Express 2026 - US Club Rank #14
1 Penn State (St John) Goalie
1 Navy (Potomac) Midfield
1 Navy (Bullis) Midfield
1 Penn State (Robinson) Defender
1 Yale (GC) Attack
1 Lehigh (St John) LSM/Defender
1 Towson (GC) Midfield
1 Villanova (GP) Defender
1 UPenn (Bullis) Midfield

VLC 2026 - US Club Rank #31
1 HP (PVI) Attack
1 BU (PVI) Midfield
1 JU (PVI) Defender
1 JHU (PVI) Midfield

IAC:
GP - Princeton (A), Army (FOGO), Villanova (D)
Landon - Navy (A/M), MI (FOGO), JHU (LSM/D)
Bullis - Navy (M), UPenn (M)

WCAC:
SJC - Navy (D), Penn State (G), GU (LSM), SU (D), Lehigh (LSM/D), Towson (A)
PVI - HP (A), BU (M), JU (D), JHU (M)
GC - MD (M), Yale (A), Towson (M)
GZ - Rutgers (A)

MAC:
Potomac - Navy (M)

Others:
STAB - JHU (A)
SAS - Brown (G)
Deerfield – MI (M)
Culver - Dartmouth (M)
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2024 18:48     Subject: BOYS 2026 DMV Commitments BOYS
The biggest advantage to being in a college bound driven program, call it private if you want to, is that you're surrounded in that mindset and environment. Tough to hold that on your own in the distinct minority of your environment.

There are advantages and disadvantages both ways. There's definitely been a bent in numbers for more of those kids, or call it families if you want to, to go private.

But if anyone has the talent and drive, it likely won't matter where they play high school. Coaching can be a wild card (true anywhere), and it's near impossible at the bottom half+ of publics, but other than that talent and determination drives the bus.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2024 16:27     Subject: BOYS 2026 DMV Commitments BOYS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah it is perhaps sad, but being in a private helps in recruiting. All available evidence supports this. Now could someone be so good it doesn’t matter. Yes there are always these kinds of people. But year over year, the majority of D1 offers to IAC and WCAC players.


Why is it sad? The public schools systems did this to themselves about 25 years ago when they made being a teacher having priority over someone who wanted to coach. Literally, guys who taught typing were given head coaching jobs over long term coaches. The entire system changed as people who wanted to coach moved to the privates. Then the public school systems started eliminating athletic programs because governments became so bloated and inefficient they needed to start cutting programs. Guess what, truancy up, grades down and kids and families who were serious about education and sports moved to the privates.


Yep - that is definitely reason #1 why people send their kids to private schools.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2024 15:03     Subject: BOYS 2026 DMV Commitments BOYS
Anonymous wrote:Yeah it is perhaps sad, but being in a private helps in recruiting. All available evidence supports this. Now could someone be so good it doesn’t matter. Yes there are always these kinds of people. But year over year, the majority of D1 offers to IAC and WCAC players.


Why is it sad? The public schools systems did this to themselves about 25 years ago when they made being a teacher having priority over someone who wanted to coach. Literally, guys who taught typing were given head coaching jobs over long term coaches. The entire system changed as people who wanted to coach moved to the privates. Then the public school systems started eliminating athletic programs because governments became so bloated and inefficient they needed to start cutting programs. Guess what, truancy up, grades down and kids and families who were serious about education and sports moved to the privates.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2024 14:56     Subject: Re:BOYS 2026 DMV Commitments BOYS


Madlax 2026 - US Club Rank #67
1 University of Maryland (Good Counsel) Midfield
1 John Hopkins (STAB) Attack
1 John Hopkins (Landon) LSM/Defender

Next Level 2026 - US Club Rank #26
1 Princeton (Georgetown Prep) Attack
1 Navy (Landon) Attack/Mid
1 Navy (St John) Defender Midfield
2 Michigan (Lawrenceville/Deerfield) Mid/Attack, Midfield
1 Brown (St Andrew) Goalie
1 Georgetown (St John) LSM/Defender
1 Army (GP) Fogo
1 Syracuse (St John) Defender
1 Towson (St John) Attack
1 Rutgers (GZ) Attack

1 Richmond (GC) midfield


DC Express 2026 - US Club Rank #14
1 Penn State (St John) Goalie
1 Navy (Potomac) Midfield
1 Navy (Bullis) Midfield
1 Penn State (Robinson) Defender
1 Yale (GC) Attack
1 Lehigh (St John) LSM/Defender
1 Towson (GC) Midfield
1 Villanova (GP) Defender
1 UPenn (Bullis) Midfield


VLC 2026 - US Club Rank #31
1 HP (PVI) Attack
1 BU (PVI) Midfield
1 JU (PVI) Defender
1 JHU (PVI) Midfield

IAC:
GP - Princeton (A), Army (FOGO), Villanova (D)
Landon - Navy (A/M), MI (FOGO), JHU (LSM/D)
Bullis - Navy (M), UPenn (M)

WCAC:
SJC - Navy (D), Penn State (G), GU (LSM), SU (D), Lehigh (LSM/D), Towson (A)
PVI - HP (A), BU (M), JU (D), JHU (M)
GC - MD (M), Yale (A), Towson (M), Richnond (M)
GZ - Rutgers (A)

MAC:
Potomac - Navy (M)

Others:
STAB - JHU (A)
SAS - Brown (G)
Deerfield – MI (M)
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2024 14:27     Subject: BOYS 2026 DMV Commitments BOYS
Yeah it is perhaps sad, but being in a private helps in recruiting. All available evidence supports this. Now could someone be so good it doesn’t matter. Yes there are always these kinds of people. But year over year, the majority of D1 offers to IAC and WCAC players.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2024 11:35     Subject: BOYS 2026 DMV Commitments BOYS
Nice try at walking it back. You said the kid was at public school and tried to reason it was the player and not the school and then backed up that reasoning with .... nothing. There was no mention of GC/Potomac vs SJC. Then there were all the "sorry your kid.." comebacks. This is the problem with arguing with children, they aren't mature enough to stop talking.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2024 11:12     Subject: BOYS 2026 DMV Commitments BOYS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was never going to md out of Whitman.


You still don’t get it. Probably why your kid is not on the commit list.


Typical dcum child's response. He specifically transferred bc he was told to in order to get recruited.



You still don’t get it. Keep thinking that these high school programs create most of the development.


You wrote that already. This is the problem with children on an adult forum. They add nothing to the discussion and their statements are so general as to be useless.

Toth, Severns, Horsey, Anzelone, Olan, Lunn and multiple parents and showcase coaches told the family to move him. Smith was the last person in the chain only after the family reached out to GC. 12 games in public school against lousy competition does nothing except maybe get you to d2 and you can go there from WW without playing lacrosse or being an A student or being anything else in high school. They chose GC because he could play right away and the price was right.

And if you don't think playing against a steady diet of d1 and top d3 lacrosse talent doesn't develop you, then you need to hit the books and not the wall. A school like GC will practice more and do more for an athlete in 3 years than what playing club did in the 6 years prior: off season practices, weight sessions, chalk talks and video sessions, in season 5/6 days a week practices.



That’s a nice rant but I think the poster was trying to say that you don’t need to go to SJC to be a high level commit. You can do it at places like GC or even Potomac for that matter. Yes, the 2026 class at SJC is loaded but those kids would have had the same Outcome at another local private.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2024 11:10     Subject: BOYS 2026 DMV Commitments BOYS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was never going to md out of Whitman.


You still don’t get it. Probably why your kid is not on the commit list.


Typical dcum child's response. He specifically transferred bc he was told to in order to get recruited.



You still don’t get it. Keep thinking that these high school programs create most of the development.


You wrote that already. This is the problem with children on an adult forum. They add nothing to the discussion and their statements are so general as to be useless.

Toth, Severns, Horsey, Anzelone, Olan, Lunn and multiple parents and showcase coaches told the family to move him. Smith was the last person in the chain only after the family reached out to GC. 12 games in public school against lousy competition does nothing except maybe get you to d2 and you can go there from WW without playing lacrosse or being an A student or being anything else in high school. They chose GC because he could play right away and the price was right.

And if you don't think playing against a steady diet of d1 and top d3 lacrosse talent doesn't develop you, then you need to hit the books and not the wall. A school like GC will practice more and do more for an athlete in 3 years than what playing club did in the 6 years prior: off season practices, weight sessions, chalk talks and video sessions, in season 5/6 days a week practices.


Totally agree. Anyone who thinks public school lacrosse is remotely comparable to high level private school lacrosse does not understand the sport.

Even in the highest level public school teams (Madison, Yorktown, Robinson etc). You have Senior starters who picked up the sport in high school. On top private school teams (except for very rare exceptions) there not a single stater without a decade or more of club experience. Meaning that they’ve been playing since 2nd or third grade.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2024 10:54     Subject: BOYS 2026 DMV Commitments BOYS
Anonymous wrote:
And if you don't think playing against a steady diet of d1 and top d3 lacrosse talent doesn't develop you, then you need to hit the books and not the wall. A school like GC will practice more and do more for an athlete in 3 years than what playing club did in the 6 years prior: off season practices, weight sessions, chalk talks and video sessions, in season 5/6 days a week practices.


Couldn't agree more.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2024 09:23     Subject: BOYS 2026 DMV Commitments BOYS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was never going to md out of Whitman.


You still don’t get it. Probably why your kid is not on the commit list.


Typical dcum child's response. He specifically transferred bc he was told to in order to get recruited.



You still don’t get it. Keep thinking that these high school programs create most of the development.


You wrote that already. This is the problem with children on an adult forum. They add nothing to the discussion and their statements are so general as to be useless.

Toth, Severns, Horsey, Anzelone, Olan, Lunn and multiple parents and showcase coaches told the family to move him. Smith was the last person in the chain only after the family reached out to GC. 12 games in public school against lousy competition does nothing except maybe get you to d2 and you can go there from WW without playing lacrosse or being an A student or being anything else in high school. They chose GC because he could play right away and the price was right.

And if you don't think playing against a steady diet of d1 and top d3 lacrosse talent doesn't develop you, then you need to hit the books and not the wall. A school like GC will practice more and do more for an athlete in 3 years than what playing club did in the 6 years prior: off season practices, weight sessions, chalk talks and video sessions, in season 5/6 days a week practices.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2024 07:32     Subject: BOYS 2026 DMV Commitments BOYS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was never going to md out of Whitman.


You still don’t get it. Probably why your kid is not on the commit list.


Typical dcum child's response. He specifically transferred bc he was told to in order to get recruited.



You still don’t get it. Keep thinking that these high school programs create most of the development.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2024 07:18     Subject: BOYS 2026 DMV Commitments BOYS
Anonymous wrote:It’s the player and not the school. GC Middie going to Maryland was a public school kid until last year.


Until this year, last school yest. Transferred in mid year. Midyear.