Anonymous wrote:My DS graduated from Brown with a degree in history, and is still looking for a job. The job market is very bad right now. In the meantime, he is living at home and teaching Pickleball for spending money.

Consulting is always hiring

My DS graduated from Brown with a degree in history, and is still looking for a job. The job market is very bad right now. In the meantime, he is living at home and teaching Pickleball for spending money.

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Anonymous wrote:Twins
DS1: Swarthmore, Art History Major, 4.0w/ all the awards, going into investment banking with a firm he interned for junior year
DS2: UVA, CS Major, 3.9w/all the awards, currently no job and applying like mad, past internship with Tesla
You can imagine my shock

How does art history lead to investment banking? This is not a snark comment. I'm genuinely curious as that would not be my expectation (though I know little about either as a career and college major).

A few years ago, I met an intern at my job(law office)who already had a job offer from Deloitte for consulting. They majored in History, but at Brown… so I guess it tracks.

What skills does a consultant even need? I've seen a fair share of DCs' humanities friends land into consulting.

You can be a mediocre student at an Ivy and become a consultant

that explains a lot about some of the consultants I've worked with over the years.

Dp. It was the backup career at Yale. Saw total idiots get management consulting jobs, must be a tough world for McKinsey to hire so many meatheads.

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Anonymous wrote:Twins
DS1: Swarthmore, Art History Major, 4.0w/ all the awards, going into investment banking with a firm he interned for junior year
DS2: UVA, CS Major, 3.9w/all the awards, currently no job and applying like mad, past internship with Tesla
You can imagine my shock

How does art history lead to investment banking? This is not a snark comment. I'm genuinely curious as that would not be my expectation (though I know little about either as a career and college major).

A few years ago, I met an intern at my job(law office)who already had a job offer from Deloitte for consulting. They majored in History, but at Brown… so I guess it tracks.

What skills does a consultant even need? I've seen a fair share of DCs' humanities friends land into consulting.

You can be a mediocre student at an Ivy and become a consultant

that explains a lot about some of the consultants I've worked with over the years.

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Anonymous wrote:As some PP mentioned, GPAs should be near the bottom of the priority list, unless you go to law or med school. Connections and networking should be the number one priority on the list, because they will get you jobs after graduation. My Ivy kids learned that too late.

As someone whose kid graduated from a “regional” university, yet is making $110k in their first banking job out of college, I disagree. Maybe to pp’s point, it does not matter if you are at an Ivy. But for kids chasing merit at “less than” schools and looking to make six figures upon graduating, you better at minimum have close to a 4.0 in your major with your full GPA not much below that.

The GPA reference was for top schools. Agree GPA is crucial (along with networking and all the other things mentioned) for many other schools.

GPAs are not crucial in getting jobs. It is the connections and ability to demonstrate your knowledge at the interview that matters. I work in tech and many grads have 3.0 GPAs from UVA & VA Tech, and get hired at 120K salary.

That’s different than a 3.0 from Frostburg or Lynchburg or another regional school.

Frostburg and Lynchburg are not what I meant by regional schools. See the U.S. News definition: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/regional-universities

Frostburg is ranked 111 in North regional universities…so it is what you meant.

Lynchburg is ranked 345 for national universities. Ok…it’s not regional…but does that distinction matter at #345?

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Anonymous wrote:2024 grad from UMD business. Doing a summer internship but still looking for a full-time permanent position. Had good grades and summer internships and was given a verbal job offer that was rescinded due to a hiring freeze.

My niece is UMD 2024 Business grad as well(Marketing). She was warned by her professors that the hiring was slow. She is currently working retail and was offered a AGM position, which I am telling her to take in the meantime.

Annual General Meeting? Or something else?

Assistant General Manager, sorry

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Anonymous wrote:2024 grad from UMD business. Doing a summer internship but still looking for a full-time permanent position. Had good grades and summer internships and was given a verbal job offer that was rescinded due to a hiring freeze.

My niece is UMD 2024 Business grad as well(Marketing). She was warned by her professors that the hiring was slow. She is currently working retail and was offered a AGM position, which I am telling her to take in the meantime.

Annual General Meeting? Or something else?

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Anonymous wrote:Twins
DS1: Swarthmore, Art History Major, 4.0w/ all the awards, going into investment banking with a firm he interned for junior year
DS2: UVA, CS Major, 3.9w/all the awards, currently no job and applying like mad, past internship with Tesla
You can imagine my shock

How does art history lead to investment banking? This is not a snark comment. I'm genuinely curious as that would not be my expectation (though I know little about either as a career and college major).

A few years ago, I met an intern at my job(law office)who already had a job offer from Deloitte for consulting. They majored in History, but at Brown… so I guess it tracks.

What skills does a consultant even need? I've seen a fair share of DCs' humanities friends land into consulting.

PP here, I would assume some background in business for a good foundation. Everything else can be taught.

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Anonymous wrote:Twins
DS1: Swarthmore, Art History Major, 4.0w/ all the awards, going into investment banking with a firm he interned for junior year
DS2: UVA, CS Major, 3.9w/all the awards, currently no job and applying like mad, past internship with Tesla
You can imagine my shock

How does art history lead to investment banking? This is not a snark comment. I'm genuinely curious as that would not be my expectation (though I know little about either as a career and college major).

A few years ago, I met an intern at my job(law office)who already had a job offer from Deloitte for consulting. They majored in History, but at Brown… so I guess it tracks.

What skills does a consultant even need? I've seen a fair share of DCs' humanities friends land into consulting.

You can be a mediocre student at an Ivy and become a consultant

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Anonymous wrote:As some PP mentioned, GPAs should be near the bottom of the priority list, unless you go to law or med school. Connections and networking should be the number one priority on the list, because they will get you jobs after graduation. My Ivy kids learned that too late.

As someone whose kid graduated from a “regional” university, yet is making $110k in their first banking job out of college, I disagree. Maybe to pp’s point, it does not matter if you are at an Ivy. But for kids chasing merit at “less than” schools and looking to make six figures upon graduating, you better at minimum have close to a 4.0 in your major with your full GPA not much below that.

The GPA reference was for top schools. Agree GPA is crucial (along with networking and all the other things mentioned) for many other schools.

GPAs are not crucial in getting jobs. It is the connections and ability to demonstrate your knowledge at the interview that matters. I work in tech and many grads have 3.0 GPAs from UVA & VA Tech, and get hired at 120K salary.

That’s different than a 3.0 from Frostburg or Lynchburg or another regional school.

Frostburg and Lynchburg are not what I meant by regional schools. See the U.S. News definition: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/regional-universities

Anonymous wrote:2024 grad from UMD business. Doing a summer internship but still looking for a full-time permanent position. Had good grades and summer internships and was given a verbal job offer that was rescinded due to a hiring freeze.

My niece is UMD 2024 Business grad as well(Marketing). She was warned by her professors that the hiring was slow. She is currently working retail and was offered a AGM position, which I am telling her to take in the meantime.

My '25 grad has a return offer from his internship with a gov contractor for after graduation, whether or not he stays for a 1 year MS ( would then be a May 2026 grad). CS major. Has TS/Sci clearance, now starts the 2 year countdown for keeping that clearance active.

Anonymous wrote:Oh pick me! DC just graduated from Amherst with a degree in Anthropology and Psychology, 4.0. He's going into Medical Anthropology research at a hospital and is eyeing grad school for public health

Can you say more about this job? My 25 grad is an anthropology major, bioethics minor and she’d love to find something in the field but has been told she needs to go to law school. She is looking at nonprofit careers since she’s been interning in the sector but I’m curious about your sons job.

Oh pick me! DC just graduated from Amherst with a degree in Anthropology and Psychology, 4.0. He's going into Medical Anthropology research at a hospital and is eyeing grad school for public health

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Anonymous wrote:Twins
DS1: Swarthmore, Art History Major, 4.0w/ all the awards, going into investment banking with a firm he interned for junior year
DS2: UVA, CS Major, 3.9w/all the awards, currently no job and applying like mad, past internship with Tesla
You can imagine my shock

How does art history lead to investment banking? This is not a snark comment. I'm genuinely curious as that would not be my expectation (though I know little about either as a career and college major).

A few years ago, I met an intern at my job(law office)who already had a job offer from Deloitte for consulting. They majored in History, but at Brown… so I guess it tracks.

What skills does a consultant even need? I've seen a fair share of DCs' humanities friends land into consulting.