Anonymous
06/28/2024 11:56
Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are 44 teams at 'Nationals' and many are getting blown out and not winning a single game
This means the overall quality is low.
Why are there 44 teams?
There are 44 teams at champions league.
I'll assume you're not dumb enough to be drawing comparison between watered down pay-to-play ecnl with parents spending thousands to attend pseudo 'nationals' with the UEFA Champions League
Please tell us about a league that isn’t pay to play with the same level of competition in the US. Otherwise, STFU.
10 of 44 teams couldn't win a single game?
"Elite" my arse. Cartoon overpriced competition
Should only be maybe 20 strong teams for national finals
You do realize in that case you're probably going to have 5 teams (out of the 20) that "couldn't win a single game". For every game that has a winner, there's also a loser.
They are playing 3 games at least. Not just one.
Anonymous
06/28/2024 11:53
Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Everything is terrible!!! Yet we manage to be one of the top Womens Teams in the world in every age group. If we manage to keep politics out of the USWNT, we’ll win the World Cup again next time around. Oh, and not punch anyone in the back of the head too.
Sour grapes everywhere. My DD is on track to play D1 and has perfect grades. We will happily take any help and play ugly soccer. Unlike what you think, we are far from rich and actually sacrifice vacations among other things for Club soccer. Because of that she has made friends, stays busy, stays out of trouble and learns leadership as well as how to work with others. Money well spent.
You are Sour grapes!!!!!
We used to be the top, not one of the best.
Then the rest of the soccer world took a serious interest in their women's soccer.
Look at recent International competition results.
So I'd say you're not paying as much attention as you say we need to
Anonymous
06/28/2024 11:53
Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll missing the forest. The purpose of ECNL is for college recruiting. It helps colleges find players and players find colleges. That’s why there are 44 teams in a “playoff”. Think of it like a job fair. If a player comes back from Seattle with several coach emails and invites (job leads and interviews), it’s a success. If the team wins but no coach interest it’s a failure. To the extent that winning is a goal it is only because it might enhance the true goal and give more chances for college interest. Those of you arguing over playing styles and tactics and national championships are so naive.
Ding, ding, ding…we’ve got a winner!
I agree but it is more complicated than that. There are not just 44 teams in a playoff in Seattle. There are another 16 in North American Cup, another 16 in Showcase A and another 16 in Showcase B. 92 teams -- all with lots and lots of coaches watching players not teams. Why are they watching -- because highlights have been sent to coaches. Club coaches have called them and they have already seen the people they are interested in at ECNL NC or PHX, or FLA or Dallas. For uncommitted 07s this is a final look for D3s. For 08s this is a hard look but D1s have already seen the 08s they are interested in multiple times already. For 09s -- this could be a first look.
It is all part of an ECNL ecosystem that works really well for what it is intended to do.
Winning in unrealted to the recruiting for the most part. If you don't get to Playoffs no one can watch you there so you do need to win a bit.
This is the game. Some below say oh this is not soccer and college soccer is awful. Maybe. Who cares. The goal of most of the girls in ECNL is to play college soccer. Same as the goal of almost all men with college football. Only very few think they will play pro. They love the game and want to play before they go do other stuff. No guy thinks -- if I do this I will make the NFL better -- who cares. Same with Women's soccer. It could be lax or field hockey. They love the game and play as best they can as they go to college to get ready for the rest of their lives -- very little of which will have anything to do soccer.
An uncommitted 07 who is now scrambling for D3 offers? Those parents have already lost their long-term travel soccer bet. They'll now get to pay out of their anuses for their son or daughter to go to - best case - a high academic school they won't even like. People who have put themselves in that position are just trying to salvage an offer and save some face at the cocktail parties.
Anonymous
06/28/2024 11:50
Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are 44 teams at 'Nationals' and many are getting blown out and not winning a single game
This means the overall quality is low.
Why are there 44 teams?
There are 44 teams at champions league.
I'll assume you're not dumb enough to be drawing comparison between watered down pay-to-play ecnl with parents spending thousands to attend pseudo 'nationals' with the UEFA Champions League
Please tell us about a league that isn’t pay to play with the same level of competition in the US. Otherwise, STFU.
10 of 44 teams couldn't win a single game?
"Elite" my arse. Cartoon overpriced competition
Should only be maybe 20 strong teams for national finals
You do realize in that case you're probably going to have 5 teams (out of the 20) that "couldn't win a single game". For every game that has a winner, there's also a loser.
Anonymous
06/28/2024 11:14
Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll missing the forest. The purpose of ECNL is for college recruiting. It helps colleges find players and players find colleges. That’s why there are 44 teams in a “playoff”. Think of it like a job fair. If a player comes back from Seattle with several coach emails and invites (job leads and interviews), it’s a success. If the team wins but no coach interest it’s a failure. To the extent that winning is a goal it is only because it might enhance the true goal and give more chances for college interest. Those of you arguing over playing styles and tactics and national championships are so naive.
Some of us care about quality futbol. The pencil-neck poindexters view soccer as nothing more than a vehicle for their upper class white girl DD to get even more privilege (ie better college admission), which is the actual reason the quality around here sucks.
YES!!!!!!!!! You now understand. Why do you care about quality soccer? Very odd. The sport is not the be all and end all. Sports are here to serve people not people serving the sport.
Anonymous
06/28/2024 11:12
Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll missing the forest. The purpose of ECNL is for college recruiting. It helps colleges find players and players find colleges. That’s why there are 44 teams in a “playoff”. Think of it like a job fair. If a player comes back from Seattle with several coach emails and invites (job leads and interviews), it’s a success. If the team wins but no coach interest it’s a failure. To the extent that winning is a goal it is only because it might enhance the true goal and give more chances for college interest. Those of you arguing over playing styles and tactics and national championships are so naive.
Ding, ding, ding…we’ve got a winner!
I agree but it is more complicated than that. There are not just 44 teams in a playoff in Seattle. There are another 16 in North American Cup, another 16 in Showcase A and another 16 in Showcase B. 92 teams -- all with lots and lots of coaches watching players not teams. Why are they watching -- because highlights have been sent to coaches. Club coaches have called them and they have already seen the people they are interested in at ECNL NC or PHX, or FLA or Dallas. For uncommitted 07s this is a final look for D3s. For 08s this is a hard look but D1s have already seen the 08s they are interested in multiple times already. For 09s -- this could be a first look.
It is all part of an ECNL ecosystem that works really well for what it is intended to do.
Winning in unrealted to the recruiting for the most part. If you don't get to Playoffs no one can watch you there so you do need to win a bit.
This is the game. Some below say oh this is not soccer and college soccer is awful. Maybe. Who cares. The goal of most of the girls in ECNL is to play college soccer. Same as the goal of almost all men with college football. Only very few think they will play pro. They love the game and want to play before they go do other stuff. No guy thinks -- if I do this I will make the NFL better -- who cares. Same with Women's soccer. It could be lax or field hockey. They love the game and play as best they can as they go to college to get ready for the rest of their lives -- very little of which will have anything to do soccer.
Anonymous
06/28/2024 11:07
Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls
Everything is terrible!!! Yet we manage to be one of the top Womens Teams in the world in every age group. If we manage to keep politics out of the USWNT, we’ll win the World Cup again next time around. Oh, and not punch anyone in the back of the head too.
Sour grapes everywhere. My DD is on track to play D1 and has perfect grades. We will happily take any help and play ugly soccer. Unlike what you think, we are far from rich and actually sacrifice vacations among other things for Club soccer. Because of that she has made friends, stays busy, stays out of trouble and learns leadership as well as how to work with others. Money well spent.
You are Sour grapes!!!!!
Sour grapes everywhere. My DD is on track to play D1 and has perfect grades. We will happily take any help and play ugly soccer. Unlike what you think, we are far from rich and actually sacrifice vacations among other things for Club soccer. Because of that she has made friends, stays busy, stays out of trouble and learns leadership as well as how to work with others. Money well spent.
You are Sour grapes!!!!!
Anonymous
06/28/2024 10:56
Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls
this… paying 3-6k a year for kids to play w others w this kinda energy is sobering.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll missing the forest. The purpose of ECNL is for college recruiting. It helps colleges find players and players find colleges. That’s why there are 44 teams in a “playoff”. Think of it like a job fair. If a player comes back from Seattle with several coach emails and invites (job leads and interviews), it’s a success. If the team wins but no coach interest it’s a failure. To the extent that winning is a goal it is only because it might enhance the true goal and give more chances for college interest. Those of you arguing over playing styles and tactics and national championships are so naive.
Some of us care about quality futbol. The pencil-neck poindexters view soccer as nothing more than a vehicle for their upper class white girl DD to get even more privilege (ie better college admission), which is the actual reason the quality around here sucks.
Well, duh. There aren’t anywhere near enough people like you in this country that care about futbol for it to change.
Defeatist mentality
+1.
Dmv should demand better from our clubs and for our kids. We have some dang good athletes that could be all stars w the right club approach. Letd not put cielings on our kids potential. We could very well figure this out and hang w the other clubs at nationals. Just need to demand better and research
Ima hop off my soap box now
Anonymous
06/28/2024 10:46
Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll missing the forest. The purpose of ECNL is for college recruiting. It helps colleges find players and players find colleges. That’s why there are 44 teams in a “playoff”. Think of it like a job fair. If a player comes back from Seattle with several coach emails and invites (job leads and interviews), it’s a success. If the team wins but no coach interest it’s a failure. To the extent that winning is a goal it is only because it might enhance the true goal and give more chances for college interest. Those of you arguing over playing styles and tactics and national championships are so naive.
And what have you won?
College soccer is terrible. Seriously, next time you see it on TV watch for a while. Especially women's college soccer. Wait until the end of the game and the coaches will start subbing like crazy completely slowing down the game. This will kill any kind of pressure that normally happens coaches have to sit back and watch the players they've picked work like crazy until the game is over. This is when goals generally happen because everyone is tired and likely to make mistakes.
Last December I watched two southern womens teams play on TV. Unfortunately I don't remember which colleges they were but I do remember that they were both D1.
Neither team could keep the ball down and connect passes. Both teams were 100% kick and chase. At the end of the game both coaches started subbing to the point where it was unwatchable.
It was kind of like watching two all star tournament teams because it was all individual effort and no team tactics. What made it unwatchable is at the end both teams would kick the ball out over and over so their coach could sub players in.
Anonymous
06/28/2024 10:32
Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll missing the forest. The purpose of ECNL is for college recruiting. It helps colleges find players and players find colleges. That’s why there are 44 teams in a “playoff”. Think of it like a job fair. If a player comes back from Seattle with several coach emails and invites (job leads and interviews), it’s a success. If the team wins but no coach interest it’s a failure. To the extent that winning is a goal it is only because it might enhance the true goal and give more chances for college interest. Those of you arguing over playing styles and tactics and national championships are so naive.
Some of us care about quality futbol. The pencil-neck poindexters view soccer as nothing more than a vehicle for their upper class white girl DD to get even more privilege (ie better college admission), which is the actual reason the quality around here sucks.
Well, duh. There aren’t anywhere near enough people like you in this country that care about futbol for it to change.
This is the reason we don't win.
Throw in pay to play and here we are.
Anonymous
06/28/2024 10:28
Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll missing the forest. The purpose of ECNL is for college recruiting. It helps colleges find players and players find colleges. That’s why there are 44 teams in a “playoff”. Think of it like a job fair. If a player comes back from Seattle with several coach emails and invites (job leads and interviews), it’s a success. If the team wins but no coach interest it’s a failure. To the extent that winning is a goal it is only because it might enhance the true goal and give more chances for college interest. Those of you arguing over playing styles and tactics and national championships are so naive.
And what have you won?
College soccer is terrible. Seriously, next time you see it on TV watch for a while. Especially women's college soccer. Wait until the end of the game and the coaches will start subbing like crazy completely slowing down the game. This will kill any kind of pressure that normally happens coaches have to sit back and watch the players they've picked work like crazy until the game is over. This is when goals generally happen because everyone is tired and likely to make mistakes.
Anonymous
06/28/2024 10:15
Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls
Anonymous
06/28/2024 10:11
Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll missing the forest. The purpose of ECNL is for college recruiting. It helps colleges find players and players find colleges. That’s why there are 44 teams in a “playoff”. Think of it like a job fair. If a player comes back from Seattle with several coach emails and invites (job leads and interviews), it’s a success. If the team wins but no coach interest it’s a failure. To the extent that winning is a goal it is only because it might enhance the true goal and give more chances for college interest. Those of you arguing over playing styles and tactics and national championships are so naive.
Some of us care about quality futbol. The pencil-neck poindexters view soccer as nothing more than a vehicle for their upper class white girl DD to get even more privilege (ie better college admission), which is the actual reason the quality around here sucks.
Well, duh. There aren’t anywhere near enough people like you in this country that care about futbol for it to change.
Defeatist mentality
+1.
Anonymous
06/28/2024 10:02
Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are 44 teams at 'Nationals' and many are getting blown out and not winning a single game
This means the overall quality is low.
Why are there 44 teams?
There are 44 teams at champions league.
I'll assume you're not dumb enough to be drawing comparison between watered down pay-to-play ecnl with parents spending thousands to attend pseudo 'nationals' with the UEFA Champions League
44 teams qualify for ecnl champions league. Many many more teams qualify for ecnl playoffs. How dumb are you?
Dumb enough to realize it's a sham
64 or 44 teams in national playoff finals
There's obviously a lack of quality to make up numbers for $$ sake
What club does your DC play for?
City SC Carlsbad, San Diego Co. SoCal
Experts only https://ourcitysc.com/
Anonymous
06/28/2024 09:48
Subject: ENCL Nationals - Girls
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll missing the forest. The purpose of ECNL is for college recruiting. It helps colleges find players and players find colleges. That’s why there are 44 teams in a “playoff”. Think of it like a job fair. If a player comes back from Seattle with several coach emails and invites (job leads and interviews), it’s a success. If the team wins but no coach interest it’s a failure. To the extent that winning is a goal it is only because it might enhance the true goal and give more chances for college interest. Those of you arguing over playing styles and tactics and national championships are so naive.
Some of us care about quality futbol. The pencil-neck poindexters view soccer as nothing more than a vehicle for their upper class white girl DD to get even more privilege (ie better college admission), which is the actual reason the quality around here sucks.
Well, duh. There aren’t anywhere near enough people like you in this country that care about futbol for it to change.
Defeatist mentality