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Anonymous wrote:Amy and Johnny are a sweet couple. That's all I've got.

They both just seem so dumb, talking about getting a vasectomy for birth control.

I am guessing a doctor will ask enough question to conclude it's not a good idea. Why can't she use a diaphragm?

So did they not have s3x before the wedding? Are they going to on the wedding night? Do they have their BC figured out?

Anonymous wrote:Wow what an emotional episode! I think this is the first episode of this entire franchise that made me cry. Talk about a tale of two attachment styles.

Johnny comes from two people who love each other and love him and he is secure and confident and loving. Clay is crippled by his father's legacy and the insecurity and fear it birthed in him.

I have watched every season of this show and I think there is always a real energy the weddings have when people think its actually going to happen and it was there with AD and Clay. The emotions and feelings you could feel them they were truly there but I could also tell he was going to say no from the beginning. And kudos to the show I have to say, they could have edited that to make him look like a total jerk but instead they went to pretty great lengths to show how he is a victim of a generational cycle of abuse and how it just prevented him from accepting the relationship fully.

I think the one thing he did wrong was allow her to say yes. If you want the relationship to continue after the altar, if you are really all in and in love but not ready you don't have that conversation after she said yes in front of the world. You say that the night before so you spare her that humiliation and lay the groundwork. Especially when you knew what you were going to say the way it seemed he did.

But my heart kind of breaks for him, he's messed up. And he doesn't want to be and knows he is, which is a hard place to be.

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Anonymous wrote:Amy and Johnny are a sweet couple. That's all I've got.

They both just seem so dumb, talking about getting a vasectomy for birth control.

I am guessing a doctor will ask enough question to conclude it's not a good idea. Why can't she use a diaphragm?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amy and Johnny are a sweet couple. That's all I've got.

They both just seem so dumb, talking about getting a vasectomy for birth control.

I am guessing a doctor will ask enough question to conclude it's not a good idea. Why can't she use a diaphragm?

Anonymous wrote:If there’s one thing I learned from this episode, it’s that some people talk A LOT at weddings. Apparently I’ve gone to some boring affairs. The guests were chatting, Clay and his mom talked down the aisle, he talked to the guests, and they gave commentary during each other’s vows. They even talked to each other during the dramatic pause! That was a riot.

And I gotta say, I never be want to be with a man who doesn’t cry when he breaks my heart. If you’re going to break my heart on national tv, you better be sobbing. At least Jimmy walked away before the wedding.

That conversation between his parents — now THAT is a show I would watch. I wanted to hug Clay’s mom so hard.

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Anonymous wrote:Amy and Johnny are a sweet couple. That's all I've got.

They both just seem so dumb, talking about getting a vasectomy for birth control.

Anonymous wrote:Amy and Johnny are a sweet couple. That's all I've got.

Anonymous wrote:If there’s one thing I learned from this episode, it’s that some people talk A LOT at weddings. Apparently I’ve gone to some boring affairs. The guests were chatting, Clay and his mom talked down the aisle, he talked to the guests, and they gave commentary during each other’s vows. They even talked to each other during the dramatic pause! That was a riot.

And I gotta say, I never be want to be with a man who doesn’t cry when he breaks my heart. If you’re going to break my heart on national tv, you better be sobbing. At least Jimmy walked away before the wedding.

That conversation between his parents — now THAT is a show I would watch. I wanted to hug Clay’s mom so hard.

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Anonymous wrote:Clay "I don't understand her financials." Not much to understand, I think. He's not wrong to take that into consideration.

He likes her, but is not really that into her. I suspect she's not his type, will probably end up with more of a classic type like his mom. And someone who does have a real job. They both need to work on themselves and mature before taking that step, regardless.

She told her mom he would stay out nights and not come home to her? And she wanted to marry this guy with a million red flags? Make it make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Clay "I don't understand her financials." Not much to understand, I think. He's not wrong to take that into consideration.

He likes her, but is not really that into her. I suspect she's not his type, will probably end up with more of a classic type like his mom. And someone who does have a real job. They both need to work on themselves and mature before taking that step, regardless.

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Anonymous wrote:Clay "I don't understand her financials." Not much to understand, I think. He's not wrong to take that into consideration.

She'll probably be a great wife and mom but I don't think she has a real job and that bothers him. In the end he just wasn't that into her. She is 33 years old and was willing to ignore tons of red flags to get married. She seems emotionally mature in some ways, but that would not have been a wise decision. They were not compatible in pretty fundamental ways.