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Anonymous wrote:People here VASTLY overestimate the effect local politics has on a college’s applicants. Have Texas and Rice suffered? Most DCUMers would donate a kidney to get into Rice. They’ve been conservative forever. When Michigan and Pennsylvania went for Trump, did that negatively impact apps to UMichigan or Penn or CMU or Swarthmore? People flood Duke and UNCCH and Davidson. Why do you think Florida is somehow the one place people would avoid going because of its politic?

+1.

You both are idiots

Our laws have changed they will keep changing and not for the better

Rice is in Texas you want to risk your kid being there ?..

Only horrific parents dummies will be sending college aged kids who get pregnant to any red state .

This is not only about abortion you are literally idiots

I know it’s hard for you to believe but some of us raise college age kids (girls) of all whom we’re virtually certain won’t “get pregnant” while in college. You see there is something taught to some kids called basic morals.

Amen!

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Anonymous wrote:People here VASTLY overestimate the effect local politics has on a college’s applicants. Have Texas and Rice suffered? Most DCUMers would donate a kidney to get into Rice. They’ve been conservative forever. When Michigan and Pennsylvania went for Trump, did that negatively impact apps to UMichigan or Penn or CMU or Swarthmore? People flood Duke and UNCCH and Davidson. Why do you think Florida is somehow the one place people would avoid going because of its politic?

+1.

You both are idiots

Our laws have changed they will keep changing and not for the better

Rice is in Texas you want to risk your kid being there ?..

Only horrific parents dummies will be sending college aged kids who get pregnant to any red state .

This is not only about abortion you are literally idiots

I know it’s hard for you to believe but some of us raise college age kids (girls) of all whom we’re virtually certain won’t “get pregnant” while in college. You see there is something taught to some kids called basic morals.

I know a few people who got into Georgia Tech, but didn't get into UF and vice versa. So I think the two schools are somewhat on par with each other. Although I would say that Georgia Tech has an edge of UF for engineering, but that's about it and only an edge.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, at FSU and UCF, you can get pretty good merit for having decent stats (i.e. SATs in the 1420s or higher and GPA 4.2 and higher). This current cycle FSU has been giving more money than UCF (as UCF took away their highest level merit for OOS) - which suggests to some that UCF is starting to become more selective and popular; and therefore, have less of need to give out merit. UF only gives merit to less than 10% of accepted students. Of the small # of those who receive merit, the amount is very small (compared to UF and FSU). I think the normal amount is between $2k-$8k a year (but there are more rare awards that give significantly more - but again, they are very rare).

The merit award from UF was pretty good, considering how relatively cheap OOS tuition is. After the merit award (16k/year) and DC TAG (assuming we still get it), tuition is cheaper than club soccer.

I think a lot of people don't realize what a good bargain Florida schools can be. Even though it is not common for UF to give out any merit (especially as high as PP's), the regular OOS cost is about the same as William & Mary in-state. So basically, if you can afford in-state Virginia schools like William & Mary and UVA, then you can afford UF (which for OOS is more difficult to get into than W&M as an in-state applicant, but about the same (or slightly greater) difficulty as getting into UVA in-state). However, UF allows your kid to get away from the DC area and meet people from other areas and live in a place with with some fun and sun.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, at FSU and UCF, you can get pretty good merit for having decent stats (i.e. SATs in the 1420s or higher and GPA 4.2 and higher). This current cycle FSU has been giving more money than UCF (as UCF took away their highest level merit for OOS) - which suggests to some that UCF is starting to become more selective and popular; and therefore, have less of need to give out merit. UF only gives merit to less than 10% of accepted students. Of the small # of those who receive merit, the amount is very small (compared to UF and FSU). I think the normal amount is between $2k-$8k a year (but there are more rare awards that give significantly more - but again, they are very rare).

The merit award from UF was pretty good, considering how relatively cheap OOS tuition is. After the merit award (16k/year) and DC TAG (assuming we still get it), tuition is cheaper than club soccer.

Wow - congrats! You got one of the better awards for sure! My daughter got one as well (not nearly as high as yours), but after reading the Facebook boards, I saw how lucky we were to get any money at all! How much is club soccer? !

Anonymous wrote:Also, at FSU and UCF, you can get pretty good merit for having decent stats (i.e. SATs in the 1420s or higher and GPA 4.2 and higher). This current cycle FSU has been giving more money than UCF (as UCF took away their highest level merit for OOS) - which suggests to some that UCF is starting to become more selective and popular; and therefore, have less of need to give out merit. UF only gives merit to less than 10% of accepted students. Of the small # of those who receive merit, the amount is very small (compared to UF and FSU). I think the normal amount is between $2k-$8k a year (but there are more rare awards that give significantly more - but again, they are very rare).

The merit award from UF was pretty good, considering how relatively cheap OOS tuition is. After the merit award (16k/year) and DC TAG (assuming we still get it), tuition is cheaper than club soccer.

Also, at FSU and UCF, you can get pretty good merit for having decent stats (i.e. SATs in the 1420s or higher and GPA 4.2 and higher). This current cycle FSU has been giving more money than UCF (as UCF took away their highest level merit for OOS) - which suggests to some that UCF is starting to become more selective and popular; and therefore, have less of need to give out merit. UF only gives merit to less than 10% of accepted students. Of the small # of those who receive merit, the amount is very small (compared to UF and FSU). I think the normal amount is between $2k-$8k a year (but there are more rare awards that give significantly more - but again, they are very rare).

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Anonymous wrote:Whether or not liberals are coming into Florida, more people ARE applying to Florida schools. UF and FSU have been more difficult then ever to get into this year with out of state acceptance rates being 10% and 23% respectively (despite the political climate and professors allegedly leave these schools). The schools are amazing. For example, UF is ranked 28 nationally by Usnews and #1 Public University by Wall Street Journal. Also, these schools offer excellent value where even the OOS cost is comparable to the in-state cost of attending UVA and William and Mary. So people of all political backgrounds are applying to Florida schools for the excellent education and value they provide. I have only seen data that shows that admissions to the top Florida schools are harder than ever.

What programs are strong/highly ranked at FSU and UF? Outside of the USNWR ranking, you really don't hear much about specific strengths of either of these schools.

Just from the top of my head (so the list is nowhere near comprehensive):

FSU: criminology, political science, film & animation program (difficult to get into; and must apply when applying to the college via separate application), pre-law, education, psychology, kinesiology (I think) and I know there are some others. While I heard the engineering program is okay, the one negative is that they have to share the engineering with with another university (FAMU).

UF: finance (they actually have a combined undergraduate and masters science program which is known as one of the best in the world - despite some complaints about many business classes being online - but there is more to it and not bad as it seems), engineering, comp sci, accounting, hospitality, digital arts, animal science, pre-med.

And while you didn't ask, I'm going to put UCF (University of Central Florida) in the mix as well because UF and FSU are becoming impossible for many OOS applicants to get into these days and many people are starting to pick UCF over UF or FSU for their excellent merit, honors college, engineering program (especially Aerospace), comp sci, hospitality, and animation programs. I think they have a good nursing program too and they recently built a brand new nursing school building. Also, because UCF is located in Orlando, it is much easier for student to obtain internships during the school year (and for students/family to travel in and out of). Among all 3, they offer the best quality on-campus housing, but unfortunately, most students are forced to get off-campus housing after freshman year due to housing shortage issues. Still, there is a shuttle that makes off-campus housing doable.

Let's be real, oos UMC kids attending Rice are not the ones affected by the Texas abortion laws. Rice provides Plan B in their health center. If my D needed an abortion, you bet we would do what needed to be done to get her out of the state and the appropriate care. If you look at the law, it is very very difficult - almost impossible - to "prosecute" someone (especially a non-TX resident) for leaving the state to have an abortion.

The people who are affected are poor women who don't have money or access. MY OOS D24 is excited to go to Rice and try to make a difference (I know, she is young and starry eyed, but I'm not going to discourage it) in the abortion laws and/ or help women obtain the healthcare they need in such a situation.

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Anonymous wrote:People here VASTLY overestimate the effect local politics has on a college’s applicants. Have Texas and Rice suffered? Most DCUMers would donate a kidney to get into Rice. They’ve been conservative forever. When Michigan and Pennsylvania went for Trump, did that negatively impact apps to UMichigan or Penn or CMU or Swarthmore? People flood Duke and UNCCH and Davidson. Why do you think Florida is somehow the one place people would avoid going because of its politic?

+1.

You both are idiots

Our laws have changed they will keep changing and not for the better

Rice is in Texas you want to risk your kid being there ?..

Only horrific parents dummies will be sending college aged kids who get pregnant to any red state .

This is not only about abortion you are literally idiots

Most kids who get in Rice are capable of figuring out how birth control works.

It's about basic rights, but you should know that.

There definitely are kids who are giving FL schools, at least the publics, a "hard pass" because of the ongoing DeSanitizing of education there (I'm related to one who's pretty moderate and honestly surprised me with the "hard pass" position), but I suspect they're outnumbered by additional apps from MAGAs who see the DeSanitizing as a feature rather than a bug.

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Anonymous wrote:oh god i hope UF is easier to get into. it’s my kids first choice. Would be a miracle if the admit this cycle is higher than last cycle. OOS admit rate was 19%. Also making it worst it moved up in rankings and is one of the best public universities in the country.

i hope liberals got the memo and are staying far away. Florida is so scary. Be very very scared.

You want your kid in a school that will be unaccredited?
That the qualified professors all left?
That the govenor of the state wants to limit the movement of all females?
That the gov. of the state just stated "covid boosters make you more likely to get covid"

I am a UF alumni who up until last year gave millions a year to UF.

I am not alone many of us have removed our scholarship funds and all donations to UF. What do you think will happen to services at UF without those funds?

Go Gators! Woo hoo now run by Ben Sasse who is an idiot when it comes to higher education.

Hahaha. Sure you did.

And they also claim they are going to move to Canada if Trump gets elected. They are big on talk. Not so big on action.

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Anonymous wrote:People here VASTLY overestimate the effect local politics has on a college’s applicants. Have Texas and Rice suffered? Most DCUMers would donate a kidney to get into Rice. They’ve been conservative forever. When Michigan and Pennsylvania went for Trump, did that negatively impact apps to UMichigan or Penn or CMU or Swarthmore? People flood Duke and UNCCH and Davidson. Why do you think Florida is somehow the one place people would avoid going because of its politic?

+1.

You both are idiots

Our laws have changed they will keep changing and not for the better

Rice is in Texas you want to risk your kid being there ?..

Only horrific parents dummies will be sending college aged kids who get pregnant to any red state .

This is not only about abortion you are literally idiots

Most kids who get in Rice are capable of figuring out how birth control works.

Anonymous wrote:It’s not libs it’s anyone with a brain

After project 2925 is complete women will have no rights none zero nadda you morons

Red states will be marrying girls off at 10

Women will not be safe but yay college oos must be for darling child

Hillary is trying for one more run at the White House.

Anonymous wrote:Whether or not liberals are coming into Florida, more people ARE applying to Florida schools. UF and FSU have been more difficult then ever to get into this year with out of state acceptance rates being 10% and 23% respectively (despite the political climate and professors allegedly leave these schools). The schools are amazing. For example, UF is ranked 28 nationally by Usnews and #1 Public University by Wall Street Journal. Also, these schools offer excellent value where even the OOS cost is comparable to the in-state cost of attending UVA and William and Mary. So people of all political backgrounds are applying to Florida schools for the excellent education and value they provide. I have only seen data that shows that admissions to the top Florida schools are harder than ever.

What programs are strong/highly ranked at FSU and UF? Outside of the USNWR ranking, you really don't hear much about specific strengths of either of these schools.