Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 08:16     Subject: Re:DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint

Anonymous wrote:And the difference is that of the groups you listed, only one came to this country treated as dehumanized property, forcibly separated from family, language, culture and continuity of human experience. Every other immigrant group arriving, despite the prejudices and hardships they faced, maintained some type of family structure and cultural continuity even while assimilating. The legacy of dehumanization (and the effects flowing from it) stay with us to this day. It is a testament to human resilience and endurance that the violent "critical mass", as you put it, is as small as it is.

And I am not trying to excuse violent criminals. The leftist progressive policies of DC have been a disaster. Violent people need to be confined, and we need better rehabilitation. But don't blame one group of people without recognizing the unique and horrific treatment of that group within the context of American history.



Yes, and slavery ended 160 years ago in this country. One could see such a reaction from those held as slaves or even their direct decedents. But this many generations down the road, sorry it doesn’t fly.

If they can’t conform to society time to lock them up for good.

Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 08:16     Subject: Re:DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint


Anonymous wrote:
And the difference is that of the groups you listed, only one came to this country treated as dehumanized property, forcibly separated from family, language, culture and continuity of human experience. Every other immigrant group arriving, despite the prejudices and hardships they faced, maintained some type of family structure and cultural continuity even while assimilating. The legacy of dehumanization (and the effects flowing from it) stay with us to this day. It is a testament to human resilience and endurance that the violent "critical mass", as you put it, is as small as it is.

And I am not trying to excuse violent criminals. The leftist progressive policies of DC have been a disaster. Violent people need to be confined, and we need better rehabilitation. But don't blame one group of people without recognizing the unique and horrific treatment of that group within the context of American history.


After 150 years, the blood of 600,000 Americans, and $30 Trillion spent on programs a lot of Americans are getting fatigued of hearing your statement. Especially when our borders are bursting with brown and black folks literally risking their lives to come to this country.


Within 15 years after the blood of 600,000 Americans was spilled in the Civil War, Black Americans were relegated to another 100 years of violent oppression and second class citizenship---they were excluded from educational opportunities, union membership, credit opportunities and numerous other mechanisms which caused the immigration waves of the late 19th and early 20th century to attain middle-class status by the 1960s and 70s.

I agree with you that the trillions of dollars spent on programs to remedy past civil rights violations have been ineffective. I would argue that the real focus of those programs should have been, and should be, on rebuilding the social fabric of stability that slavery stripped away. The welfare programs of the 1960s and 70s encouraged single family parent structures and discouraged marriage. Progressives want to hand out money (and excuse criminal behavior) without giving thought on how to instill socially stable behavioral patterns. That's why progressive approaches to systemic racism are useless.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 08:15     Subject: Re:DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Soaring truancy in DC, yet graduation rates rose? Clown world. What future will these kids have?



It's the Ballou redux.


It’s public education through an “equity lens.”
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 08:03     Subject: Re:DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint

Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 07:46     Subject: Re:DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint

Anonymous wrote:Soaring truancy in DC, yet graduation rates rose? Clown world. What future will these kids have?



It's the Ballou redux.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 07:26     Subject: Re:DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint

Anonymous wrote:And the difference is that of the groups you listed, only one came to this country treated as dehumanized property, forcibly separated from family, language, culture and continuity of human experience. Every other immigrant group arriving, despite the prejudices and hardships they faced, maintained some type of family structure and cultural continuity even while assimilating. The legacy of dehumanization (and the effects flowing from it) stay with us to this day. It is a testament to human resilience and endurance that the violent "critical mass", as you put it, is as small as it is.

And I am not trying to excuse violent criminals. The leftist progressive policies of DC have been a disaster. Violent people need to be confined, and we need better rehabilitation. But don't blame one group of people without recognizing the unique and horrific treatment of that group within the context of American history.


After 150 years, the blood of 600,000 Americans, and $30 Trillion spent on programs a lot of Americans are getting fatigued of hearing your statement. Especially when our borders are bursting with brown and black folks literally risking their lives to come to this country.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 07:15     Subject: Re:DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint

Soaring truancy in DC, yet graduation rates rose? Clown world. What future will these kids have?

Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 06:40     Subject: Re:DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And the difference is that of the groups you listed, only one came to this country treated as dehumanized property, forcibly separated from family, language, culture and continuity of human experience. Every other immigrant group arriving, despite the prejudices and hardships they faced, maintained some type of family structure and cultural continuity even while assimilating. The legacy of dehumanization (and the effects flowing from it) stay with us to this day. It is a testament to human resilience and endurance that the violent "critical mass", as you put it, is as small as it is.

And I am not trying to excuse violent criminals. The leftist progressive policies of DC have been a disaster. Violent people need to be confined, and we need better rehabilitation. But don't blame one group of people without recognizing the unique and horrific treatment of that group within the context of American history.


+100


This causes gang members to take coats off of others backs by gunpoint?
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 06:34     Subject: Re:DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint

Progressives plan for some distant future utopia, but their policies create dystopia in the short term . Is that just the price we pay? Would we ultimately 'get there' if we followed their plan to the hilt?
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 06:08     Subject: DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint

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Anonymous wrote:What is the rationale behind a person in their teens and early 20s walking around with thousands of dollars of branded clothing? Especially after at least one university (GWU) told them they were at risk and to stop wearing them. It can’t be status; it’s not their money.


This is demented. I can use the same logic to rob you of anything.

It is none of your business what I wear. I have the right to be safe to wear the most expensive or cheapest cloth.

Advertising one’s privilege is pretty tacky. Why make yourself a target by antagonizing those not as lucky as you?


Come on, people have cell phones. People have nice belts and coats and shoes. It’s not like it’s a $100k diamond ring or something - regular working people can save up for a Canada Goose jacket if that’s what they really want. People are getting carjacked if they drive a regular car like a Hyundai or a Honda, or a luxury car. Our city shouldn’t be this dangerous.

However given the vast inequality in wealth distribution it’s simply not appropriate to show off one’s material privilege.


-1

If anything, only reason people should think twice about what they wear is because DC has opted to behave as third world city.

Third World?
Your ignorance is evident in the use of this phrase.


Daily murders and people here are tone policing phrases. Brilliant.


NP

At this point, speech is about the only thing leftists are actually willing to police…


PP latching onto that term to criticize is undoubtedly ignorant of the origin and meaning of the term. She has a notion from others that it is bad, and is parroting that. Uninformed people often do that to lash out and puff themselves up. They’re harmless because they can’t help telling on themselves.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 04:23     Subject: Re:DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint

Anonymous wrote:And the difference is that of the groups you listed, only one came to this country treated as dehumanized property, forcibly separated from family, language, culture and continuity of human experience. Every other immigrant group arriving, despite the prejudices and hardships they faced, maintained some type of family structure and cultural continuity even while assimilating. The legacy of dehumanization (and the effects flowing from it) stay with us to this day. It is a testament to human resilience and endurance that the violent "critical mass", as you put it, is as small as it is.

And I am not trying to excuse violent criminals. The leftist progressive policies of DC have been a disaster. Violent people need to be confined, and we need better rehabilitation. But don't blame one group of people without recognizing the unique and horrific treatment of that group within the context of American history.


+100
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2023 23:41     Subject: DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It's childhood trauma, chaotic environments for babies and kids, and no moral or ethical training in early childhood. Overstressed single mothers themselves traumatized in childhood unable/unwilling to create calm and safe environments for their kids. Then for school age kids, a culture of "don't act white" and lack of respect for teachers, education and laws among the peer group.
Exactly. It's not their fault. Because of slavery black people can't help but commit crime.



Nah something else is going on. Under Williams and Fenty crime was getting so low people started moving back to the city. I don’t exactly remember their policies but someone obviously changed a formula that was working



Sometimes it's not specific policies. But rather the confluence of other things that lead to a cultural shift. If you talk to teachers, they all note how weak and unprepared students are at every grade level today. Many will attribute the beginnings of this dramatic drop off to No Child Left Behind, which led to a focus on teaching to the test with an emphasis on focusing on the bottom 5 percent of the class at the expense of everyone else. Additionally, the way we taught reading and writing completely changed. Phonics were no longer taught. Now it was all about patterns. Which means if you don't come from a reading household where parents are teaching kids how to read by using sounds, students are effectively lost and illiterate by 10. And they never catch up. Additionally, similar changes occurred in the way math was taught. No one learns basics like multiplication tables anymore. We abandoned real teaching for vapid, unproven theories pushed by consultants and administrators - not teachers.

The effect of all this is that if a kid doesn't come from a highly educated and supportive household environment, they are dumb as rocks these days. They can't read. They can't write. They can't do basic arithmetic. And by fifth grade, there is no chance of catching up. I genuinely believe that the changes we've made to how we educate kids has led to profound impacts on the intelligence and aptitude of this generation of young people.

Throw in Covid, with its nearly two years of isolation. Many of these kids missed a big part of the socialization process. Add in Black Lives Matter, and the subsequent removal of policing, prosecution, and consequences for crime in DC. Toss in social media, with its toxicity and the destruction of attention spans. And the results speak for themselves.

Kids coming from well-educated households with a lot of books and an emphasis on learning will always find a way. This isn't about kids assigned to Whitman or Langley. But if you don't come from a household like that, and you go to school in DC - poor, unprepared single moms, crime, instability, social pressure to behave in certain ways - there is almost no chance a kid emerges as well-educated and employable. We've made it impossible.

It's a completely lost generation


But I thought all the kids were in honors classes at Jackson Reed?


Are you maybe thinking of "honors for all"?


That’s right up there with the mayor’s other pledge of “crime for all.” Mission accomplished on both.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2023 23:40     Subject: DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's childhood trauma, chaotic environments for babies and kids, and no moral or ethical training in early childhood. Overstressed single mothers themselves traumatized in childhood unable/unwilling to create calm and safe environments for their kids. Then for school age kids, a culture of "don't act white" and lack of respect for teachers, education and laws among the peer group.
Exactly. It's not their fault. Because of slavery black people can't help but commit crime.



Nah something else is going on. Under Williams and Fenty crime was getting so low people started moving back to the city. I don’t exactly remember their policies but someone obviously changed a formula that was working



Sometimes it's not specific policies. But rather the confluence of other things that lead to a cultural shift. If you talk to teachers, they all note how weak and unprepared students are at every grade level today. Many will attribute the beginnings of this dramatic drop off to No Child Left Behind, which led to a focus on teaching to the test with an emphasis on focusing on the bottom 5 percent of the class at the expense of everyone else. Additionally, the way we taught reading and writing completely changed. Phonics were no longer taught. Now it was all about patterns. Which means if you don't come from a reading household where parents are teaching kids how to read by using sounds, students are effectively lost and illiterate by 10. And they never catch up. Additionally, similar changes occurred in the way math was taught. No one learns basics like multiplication tables anymore. We abandoned real teaching for vapid, unproven theories pushed by consultants and administrators - not teachers.

The effect of all this is that if a kid doesn't come from a highly educated and supportive household environment, they are dumb as rocks these days. They can't read. They can't write. They can't do basic arithmetic. And by fifth grade, there is no chance of catching up. I genuinely believe that the changes we've made to how we educate kids has led to profound impacts on the intelligence and aptitude of this generation of young people.

Throw in Covid, with its nearly two years of isolation. Many of these kids missed a big part of the socialization process. Add in Black Lives Matter, and the subsequent removal of policing, prosecution, and consequences for crime in DC. Toss in social media, with its toxicity and the destruction of attention spans. And the results speak for themselves.

Kids coming from well-educated households with a lot of books and an emphasis on learning will always find a way. This isn't about kids assigned to Whitman or Langley. But if you don't come from a household like that, and you go to school in DC - poor, unprepared single moms, crime, instability, social pressure to behave in certain ways - there is almost no chance a kid emerges as well-educated and employable. We've made it impossible.

It's a completely lost generation


But I thought all the kids were in honors classes at Jackson Reed?


Are you maybe thinking of "honors for all"?


Honors level truancy, perhaps.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2023 23:04     Subject: DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's childhood trauma, chaotic environments for babies and kids, and no moral or ethical training in early childhood. Overstressed single mothers themselves traumatized in childhood unable/unwilling to create calm and safe environments for their kids. Then for school age kids, a culture of "don't act white" and lack of respect for teachers, education and laws among the peer group.
Exactly. It's not their fault. Because of slavery black people can't help but commit crime.



Nah something else is going on. Under Williams and Fenty crime was getting so low people started moving back to the city. I don’t exactly remember their policies but someone obviously changed a formula that was working



Sometimes it's not specific policies. But rather the confluence of other things that lead to a cultural shift. If you talk to teachers, they all note how weak and unprepared students are at every grade level today. Many will attribute the beginnings of this dramatic drop off to No Child Left Behind, which led to a focus on teaching to the test with an emphasis on focusing on the bottom 5 percent of the class at the expense of everyone else. Additionally, the way we taught reading and writing completely changed. Phonics were no longer taught. Now it was all about patterns. Which means if you don't come from a reading household where parents are teaching kids how to read by using sounds, students are effectively lost and illiterate by 10. And they never catch up. Additionally, similar changes occurred in the way math was taught. No one learns basics like multiplication tables anymore. We abandoned real teaching for vapid, unproven theories pushed by consultants and administrators - not teachers.

The effect of all this is that if a kid doesn't come from a highly educated and supportive household environment, they are dumb as rocks these days. They can't read. They can't write. They can't do basic arithmetic. And by fifth grade, there is no chance of catching up. I genuinely believe that the changes we've made to how we educate kids has led to profound impacts on the intelligence and aptitude of this generation of young people.

Throw in Covid, with its nearly two years of isolation. Many of these kids missed a big part of the socialization process. Add in Black Lives Matter, and the subsequent removal of policing, prosecution, and consequences for crime in DC. Toss in social media, with its toxicity and the destruction of attention spans. And the results speak for themselves.

Kids coming from well-educated households with a lot of books and an emphasis on learning will always find a way. This isn't about kids assigned to Whitman or Langley. But if you don't come from a household like that, and you go to school in DC - poor, unprepared single moms, crime, instability, social pressure to behave in certain ways - there is almost no chance a kid emerges as well-educated and employable. We've made it impossible.

It's a completely lost generation


But I thought all the kids were in honors classes at Jackson Reed?


Are you maybe thinking of "honors for all"?
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2023 22:49     Subject: DC criminals stealing your coat at gunpoint

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's childhood trauma, chaotic environments for babies and kids, and no moral or ethical training in early childhood. Overstressed single mothers themselves traumatized in childhood unable/unwilling to create calm and safe environments for their kids. Then for school age kids, a culture of "don't act white" and lack of respect for teachers, education and laws among the peer group.
Exactly. It's not their fault. Because of slavery black people can't help but commit crime.



Nah something else is going on. Under Williams and Fenty crime was getting so low people started moving back to the city. I don’t exactly remember their policies but someone obviously changed a formula that was working



Sometimes it's not specific policies. But rather the confluence of other things that lead to a cultural shift. If you talk to teachers, they all note how weak and unprepared students are at every grade level today. Many will attribute the beginnings of this dramatic drop off to No Child Left Behind, which led to a focus on teaching to the test with an emphasis on focusing on the bottom 5 percent of the class at the expense of everyone else. Additionally, the way we taught reading and writing completely changed. Phonics were no longer taught. Now it was all about patterns. Which means if you don't come from a reading household where parents are teaching kids how to read by using sounds, students are effectively lost and illiterate by 10. And they never catch up. Additionally, similar changes occurred in the way math was taught. No one learns basics like multiplication tables anymore. We abandoned real teaching for vapid, unproven theories pushed by consultants and administrators - not teachers.

The effect of all this is that if a kid doesn't come from a highly educated and supportive household environment, they are dumb as rocks these days. They can't read. They can't write. They can't do basic arithmetic. And by fifth grade, there is no chance of catching up. I genuinely believe that the changes we've made to how we educate kids has led to profound impacts on the intelligence and aptitude of this generation of young people.

Throw in Covid, with its nearly two years of isolation. Many of these kids missed a big part of the socialization process. Add in Black Lives Matter, and the subsequent removal of policing, prosecution, and consequences for crime in DC. Toss in social media, with its toxicity and the destruction of attention spans. And the results speak for themselves.

Kids coming from well-educated households with a lot of books and an emphasis on learning will always find a way. This isn't about kids assigned to Whitman or Langley. But if you don't come from a household like that, and you go to school in DC - poor, unprepared single moms, crime, instability, social pressure to behave in certain ways - there is almost no chance a kid emerges as well-educated and employable. We've made it impossible.

It's a completely lost generation


But I thought all the kids were in honors classes at Jackson Reed?