Anonymous
12/03/2023 13:22
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:I am really curious - where are people having trouble accessing the new vaccine?
Nowhere. Even the first round of boosters were available on a walk in basis two years ago.
Anonymous
12/03/2023 13:17
Subject: Re:Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
I am really curious - where are people having trouble accessing the new vaccine?
Anonymous
12/03/2023 13:12
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a "healthy vaccinee bias" which is a big factor behind covid vaccine effectiveness results. People who get the vaccine often have better access to health care, less blue collar jobs, etc. and so have better outcomes. While it seldom gets mentioned, the covid vaccinated also have lower mortality rates than the unvaccinated for non-covid diseases as well for this same reason.
Actually, the opposite. The people who get vaccines are most likely high-risk..
High risk individuals get the vaccine, but only if they can access it. Also, the most at-risk elderly can be deemed too ill to receive the vaccine.
Since the covid vaccine's introduction, many not-at-risk people have received it; that data forms the basis for the vaccine effectiveness statistics that are generally quoted. Unless you think covid vaccines magically protect against non-covid illness, there are factors beyond the vaccine itself that are driving the fact that the covid vaccinated have lower mortality from non-covid illnesses than the covid unvaccinated. Those same factors apply to covid illnesses as well.
The only thing limiting access is getting off your ass and getting it.
It's scary to leave the house!
and it's going to get even scarier to leave the house right around the time we start casting votes...oh in about 9 months or so!
Anonymous
12/03/2023 13:08
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a "healthy vaccinee bias" which is a big factor behind covid vaccine effectiveness results. People who get the vaccine often have better access to health care, less blue collar jobs, etc. and so have better outcomes. While it seldom gets mentioned, the covid vaccinated also have lower mortality rates than the unvaccinated for non-covid diseases as well for this same reason.
Actually, the opposite. The people who get vaccines are most likely high-risk..
High risk individuals get the vaccine, but only if they can access it. Also, the most at-risk elderly can be deemed too ill to receive the vaccine.
Since the covid vaccine's introduction, many not-at-risk people have received it; that data forms the basis for the vaccine effectiveness statistics that are generally quoted. Unless you think covid vaccines magically protect against non-covid illness, there are factors beyond the vaccine itself that are driving the fact that the covid vaccinated have lower mortality from non-covid illnesses than the covid unvaccinated. Those same factors apply to covid illnesses as well.
The only thing limiting access is getting off your ass and getting it.
It's scary to leave the house!
Anonymous
12/03/2023 12:21
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a "healthy vaccinee bias" which is a big factor behind covid vaccine effectiveness results. People who get the vaccine often have better access to health care, less blue collar jobs, etc. and so have better outcomes. While it seldom gets mentioned, the covid vaccinated also have lower mortality rates than the unvaccinated for non-covid diseases as well for this same reason.
Actually, the opposite. The people who get vaccines are most likely high-risk..
High risk individuals get the vaccine, but only if they can access it. Also, the most at-risk elderly can be deemed too ill to receive the vaccine.
Since the covid vaccine's introduction, many not-at-risk people have received it; that data forms the basis for the vaccine effectiveness statistics that are generally quoted. Unless you think covid vaccines magically protect against non-covid illness, there are factors beyond the vaccine itself that are driving the fact that the covid vaccinated have lower mortality from non-covid illnesses than the covid unvaccinated. Those same factors apply to covid illnesses as well.
The only thing limiting access is getting off your ass and getting it.
Anonymous
12/03/2023 12:18
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a "healthy vaccinee bias" which is a big factor behind covid vaccine effectiveness results. People who get the vaccine often have better access to health care, less blue collar jobs, etc. and so have better outcomes. While it seldom gets mentioned, the covid vaccinated also have lower mortality rates than the unvaccinated for non-covid diseases as well for this same reason.
Actually, the opposite. The people who get vaccines are most likely high-risk..
High risk individuals get the vaccine, but only if they can access it. Also, the most at-risk elderly can be deemed too ill to receive the vaccine.
Since the covid vaccine's introduction, many not-at-risk people have received it; that data forms the basis for the vaccine effectiveness statistics that are generally quoted. Unless you think covid vaccines magically protect against non-covid illness, there are factors beyond the vaccine itself that are driving the fact that the covid vaccinated have lower mortality from non-covid illnesses than the covid unvaccinated. Those same factors apply to covid illnesses as well.
Anonymous
12/03/2023 12:18
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a "healthy vaccinee bias" which is a big factor behind covid vaccine effectiveness results. People who get the vaccine often have better access to health care, less blue collar jobs, etc. and so have better outcomes. While it seldom gets mentioned, the covid vaccinated also have lower mortality rates than the unvaccinated for non-covid diseases as well for this same reason.
Actually, the opposite. The people who get vaccines are most likely high-risk..
What??
Anonymous
12/03/2023 12:16
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Now everybody is a pure-blood !!
Progress !!!
Anonymous
12/03/2023 11:57
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a "healthy vaccinee bias" which is a big factor behind covid vaccine effectiveness results. People who get the vaccine often have better access to health care, less blue collar jobs, etc. and so have better outcomes. While it seldom gets mentioned, the covid vaccinated also have lower mortality rates than the unvaccinated for non-covid diseases as well for this same reason.
Yes. Also I think this low number will change dramatically as the vaccine becomes more available in an easy way. I’m talking about no lines, etc..
BS. I live in an area where there are no lines or access issues. They can’t give it away. There is no demand.
For real??
Huh? Even in Montgomery County there is no demand. Have you been to a pharmacy lately? I get two emails a week from a couple different pharmacies I use both emphasizing walk-in availability.
Anonymous
12/03/2023 11:56
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a "healthy vaccinee bias" which is a big factor behind covid vaccine effectiveness results. People who get the vaccine often have better access to health care, less blue collar jobs, etc. and so have better outcomes. While it seldom gets mentioned, the covid vaccinated also have lower mortality rates than the unvaccinated for non-covid diseases as well for this same reason.
Yes. Also I think this low number will change dramatically as the vaccine becomes more available in an easy way. I’m talking about no lines, etc..
BS. I live in an area where there are no lines or access issues. They can’t give it away. There is no demand.
For real??
Yes, where are u that you can’t get it?
I’m in Gaithersburg MD.
Anonymous
12/03/2023 11:56
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:There is a "healthy vaccinee bias" which is a big factor behind covid vaccine effectiveness results. People who get the vaccine often have better access to health care, less blue collar jobs, etc. and so have better outcomes. While it seldom gets mentioned, the covid vaccinated also have lower mortality rates than the unvaccinated for non-covid diseases as well for this same reason.
Actually, the opposite. The people who get vaccines are most likely high-risk..
Anonymous
12/03/2023 11:55
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a "healthy vaccinee bias" which is a big factor behind covid vaccine effectiveness results. People who get the vaccine often have better access to health care, less blue collar jobs, etc. and so have better outcomes. While it seldom gets mentioned, the covid vaccinated also have lower mortality rates than the unvaccinated for non-covid diseases as well for this same reason.
Yes. Also I think this low number will change dramatically as the vaccine becomes more available in an easy way. I’m talking about no lines, etc..
BS. I live in an area where there are no lines or access issues. They can’t give it away. There is no demand.
For real??
Anonymous
12/03/2023 11:31
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a "healthy vaccinee bias" which is a big factor behind covid vaccine effectiveness results. People who get the vaccine often have better access to health care, less blue collar jobs, etc. and so have better outcomes. While it seldom gets mentioned, the covid vaccinated also have lower mortality rates than the unvaccinated for non-covid diseases as well for this same reason.
Yes. Also I think this low number will change dramatically as the vaccine becomes more available in an easy way. I’m talking about no lines, etc..
You misunderstood the point. Covid vaccines are not reducing non-covid illnesses; it's a spurious correlation. It's that the people that get covid vaccines tend to have better access to health care/higher incomes and as a result, will generally do better healthwise than the covid unvaccinated irrespective of whether they get the covid vaccine or not. Thus, while people cite figures for the covid vaccine's effectiveness, a big driver is the health backdrop/access of the vaccine recipients, independent of any impact of the vaccine itself.
Anonymous
12/03/2023 11:19
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a "healthy vaccinee bias" which is a big factor behind covid vaccine effectiveness results. People who get the vaccine often have better access to health care, less blue collar jobs, etc. and so have better outcomes. While it seldom gets mentioned, the covid vaccinated also have lower mortality rates than the unvaccinated for non-covid diseases as well for this same reason.
Yes. Also I think this low number will change dramatically as the vaccine becomes more available in an easy way. I’m talking about no lines, etc..
BS. I live in an area where there are no lines or access issues. They can’t give it away. There is no demand.
Anonymous
12/03/2023 11:01
Subject: Only ~14% Of U.S. Adults Have Gotten Latest Covid-19 Vaccine Update
Anonymous wrote:There is a "healthy vaccinee bias" which is a big factor behind covid vaccine effectiveness results. People who get the vaccine often have better access to health care, less blue collar jobs, etc. and so have better outcomes. While it seldom gets mentioned, the covid vaccinated also have lower mortality rates than the unvaccinated for non-covid diseases as well for this same reason.
Yes. Also I think this low number will change dramatically as the vaccine becomes more available in an easy way. I’m talking about no lines, etc..