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Anonymous wrote:God is a combination of the best of human nature across all humans.

When humans exercise free will to make moral choices, that’s a good thing. But you’re still describing human behavior. Humans are not God.

Maybe god makes us human?

I grew up in the Christian faith, but the divine experiences I had haven’t been witching the context of those rituals. Though I could use the Christian language to attempt an accurate description. “Peace that passes all understanding” for instance. But there are also other traditions that offer descriptions…Eckert Tolle has a book called “Stillness Speaks.” Byron Katie’s 4 questions practice have also placed me in a state that I am able to shift my perspective and make better choices.

God is love. I think the who or what is god is irrelevant. It’s the experience that is transformative.

You don't think that if God exists, that He would want you to know him? That He would be content with you thinking that who He is is irrelevant?

Sounds like immediate pp believes in the Christian God, while spiritual pp has a broader definition of god.

I don't see how this is only about the Christian God. If you believe in any god, I assume you mean some force that somehow created or sustains life on earth, including your life. But yet you think that god is ok being unknown and deemed irrelevant? I guess I am trying to grasp what kind of god that would be.

The experience is enough. I know I‘ve felt it. I don’t need to know how to define it, just that it’s available to me if and when I am still enough.

I don’t assign meaning or purpose to it and make no claims to what it is or does other than providing me with a sense of peace.

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Anonymous wrote:God is a combination of the best of human nature across all humans.

When humans exercise free will to make moral choices, that’s a good thing. But you’re still describing human behavior. Humans are not God.

Maybe god makes us human?

I grew up in the Christian faith, but the divine experiences I had haven’t been witching the context of those rituals. Though I could use the Christian language to attempt an accurate description. “Peace that passes all understanding” for instance. But there are also other traditions that offer descriptions…Eckert Tolle has a book called “Stillness Speaks.” Byron Katie’s 4 questions practice have also placed me in a state that I am able to shift my perspective and make better choices.

God is love. I think the who or what is god is irrelevant. It’s the experience that is transformative.

You don't think that if God exists, that He would want you to know him? That He would be content with you thinking that who He is is irrelevant?

Sounds like immediate pp believes in the Christian God, while spiritual pp has a broader definition of god.

I don't see how this is only about the Christian God. If you believe in any god, I assume you mean some force that somehow created or sustains life on earth, including your life. But yet you think that god is ok being unknown and deemed irrelevant? I guess I am trying to grasp what kind of god that would be.

The experience is enough. I know I‘ve felt it. I don’t need to know how to define it, just that it’s available to me if and when I am still enough.

I don’t assign meaning or purpose to it and make no claims to what it is or does other than providing me with a sense of peace.

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Anonymous wrote:God is a combination of the best of human nature across all humans.

When humans exercise free will to make moral choices, that’s a good thing. But you’re still describing human behavior. Humans are not God.

Maybe god makes us human?

I grew up in the Christian faith, but the divine experiences I had haven’t been witching the context of those rituals. Though I could use the Christian language to attempt an accurate description. “Peace that passes all understanding” for instance. But there are also other traditions that offer descriptions…Eckert Tolle has a book called “Stillness Speaks.” Byron Katie’s 4 questions practice have also placed me in a state that I am able to shift my perspective and make better choices.

God is love. I think the who or what is god is irrelevant. It’s the experience that is transformative.

You don't think that if God exists, that He would want you to know him? That He would be content with you thinking that who He is is irrelevant?

Sounds like immediate pp believes in the Christian God, while spiritual pp has a broader definition of god.

I don't see how this is only about the Christian God. If you believe in any god, I assume you mean some force that somehow created or sustains life on earth, including your life. But yet you think that god is ok being unknown and deemed irrelevant? I guess I am trying to grasp what kind of god that would be.

The experience is enough. I know I‘ve felt it. I don’t need to know how to define it, just that it’s available to me if and when I am still enough.

I don’t assign meaning or purpose to it and make no claims to what it is or does other than providing me with a sense of peace.

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Anonymous wrote:God is a combination of the best of human nature across all humans.

When humans exercise free will to make moral choices, that’s a good thing. But you’re still describing human behavior. Humans are not God.

Maybe god makes us human?

I grew up in the Christian faith, but the divine experiences I had haven’t been witching the context of those rituals. Though I could use the Christian language to attempt an accurate description. “Peace that passes all understanding” for instance. But there are also other traditions that offer descriptions…Eckert Tolle has a book called “Stillness Speaks.” Byron Katie’s 4 questions practice have also placed me in a state that I am able to shift my perspective and make better choices.

God is love. I think the who or what is god is irrelevant. It’s the experience that is transformative.

You don't think that if God exists, that He would want you to know him? That He would be content with you thinking that who He is is irrelevant?

Sounds like immediate pp believes in the Christian God, while spiritual pp has a broader definition of god.

I don't see how this is only about the Christian God. If you believe in any god, I assume you mean some force that somehow created or sustains life on earth, including your life. But yet you think that god is ok being unknown and deemed irrelevant? I guess I am trying to grasp what kind of god that would be.

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Anonymous wrote:God is a combination of the best of human nature across all humans.

When humans exercise free will to make moral choices, that’s a good thing. But you’re still describing human behavior. Humans are not God.

Maybe god makes us human?

I grew up in the Christian faith, but the divine experiences I had haven’t been witching the context of those rituals. Though I could use the Christian language to attempt an accurate description. “Peace that passes all understanding” for instance. But there are also other traditions that offer descriptions…Eckert Tolle has a book called “Stillness Speaks.” Byron Katie’s 4 questions practice have also placed me in a state that I am able to shift my perspective and make better choices.

God is love. I think the who or what is god is irrelevant. It’s the experience that is transformative.

You don't think that if God exists, that He would want you to know him? That He would be content with you thinking that who He is is irrelevant?

Sounds like immediate pp believes in the Christian God, while spiritual pp has a broader definition of god.

I don't see how this is only about the Christian God. If you believe in any god, I assume you mean some force that somehow created or sustains life on earth, including your life. But yet you think that god is ok being unknown and deemed irrelevant? I guess I am trying to grasp what kind of god that would be.

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Anonymous wrote:God is a combination of the best of human nature across all humans.

When humans exercise free will to make moral choices, that’s a good thing. But you’re still describing human behavior. Humans are not God.

Maybe god makes us human?

I grew up in the Christian faith, but the divine experiences I had haven’t been witching the context of those rituals. Though I could use the Christian language to attempt an accurate description. “Peace that passes all understanding” for instance. But there are also other traditions that offer descriptions…Eckert Tolle has a book called “Stillness Speaks.” Byron Katie’s 4 questions practice have also placed me in a state that I am able to shift my perspective and make better choices.

God is love. I think the who or what is god is irrelevant. It’s the experience that is transformative.

You don't think that if God exists, that He would want you to know him? That He would be content with you thinking that who He is is irrelevant?

Sounds like immediate pp believes in the Christian God, while spiritual pp has a broader definition of god.

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Anonymous wrote:God is a combination of the best of human nature across all humans.

When humans exercise free will to make moral choices, that’s a good thing. But you’re still describing human behavior. Humans are not God.

Maybe god makes us human?

I grew up in the Christian faith, but the divine experiences I had haven’t been witching the context of those rituals. Though I could use the Christian language to attempt an accurate description. “Peace that passes all understanding” for instance. But there are also other traditions that offer descriptions…Eckert Tolle has a book called “Stillness Speaks.” Byron Katie’s 4 questions practice have also placed me in a state that I am able to shift my perspective and make better choices.

God is love. I think the who or what is god is irrelevant. It’s the experience that is transformative.

You don't think that if God exists, that He would want you to know him? That He would be content with you thinking that who He is is irrelevant?

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Anonymous wrote:God is a combination of the best of human nature across all humans.

When humans exercise free will to make moral choices, that’s a good thing. But you’re still describing human behavior. Humans are not God.

Maybe god makes us human?

I grew up in the Christian faith, but the divine experiences I had haven’t been witching the context of those rituals. Though I could use the Christian language to attempt an accurate description. “Peace that passes all understanding” for instance. But there are also other traditions that offer descriptions…Eckert Tolle has a book called “Stillness Speaks.” Byron Katie’s 4 questions practice have also placed me in a state that I am able to shift my perspective and make better choices.

God is love. I think the who or what is god is irrelevant. It’s the experience that is transformative.

You don't think that if God exists, that He would want you to know him? That He would be content with you thinking that who He is is irrelevant?

well that's the difference between religion and spirituality. The pp you're responding to is spiritual.

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Anonymous wrote:God is a combination of the best of human nature across all humans.

When humans exercise free will to make moral choices, that’s a good thing. But you’re still describing human behavior. Humans are not God.

Maybe god makes us human?

I grew up in the Christian faith, but the divine experiences I had haven’t been witching the context of those rituals. Though I could use the Christian language to attempt an accurate description. “Peace that passes all understanding” for instance. But there are also other traditions that offer descriptions…Eckert Tolle has a book called “Stillness Speaks.” Byron Katie’s 4 questions practice have also placed me in a state that I am able to shift my perspective and make better choices.

God is love. I think the who or what is god is irrelevant. It’s the experience that is transformative.

You don't think that if God exists, that He would want you to know him? That He would be content with you thinking that who He is is irrelevant?

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Anonymous wrote:God is a combination of the best of human nature across all humans.

When humans exercise free will to make moral choices, that’s a good thing. But you’re still describing human behavior. Humans are not God.

Maybe god makes us human?

I grew up in the Christian faith, but the divine experiences I had haven’t been witching the context of those rituals. Though I could use the Christian language to attempt an accurate description. “Peace that passes all understanding” for instance. But there are also other traditions that offer descriptions…Eckert Tolle has a book called “Stillness Speaks.” Byron Katie’s 4 questions practice have also placed me in a state that I am able to shift my perspective and make better choices.

God is love. I think the who or what is god is irrelevant. It’s the experience that is transformative.

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Anonymous wrote:God is a combination of the best of human nature across all humans.

When humans exercise free will to make moral choices, that’s a good thing. But you’re still describing human behavior. Humans are not God.

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Anonymous wrote:^ Believing in God is not a simple answer. It is a hard work, physical and mental, on a daily basis. It is very hard to break that inner bad part of yourself that everyone have in us and to strive to become a better person. I think it is simple for a married man to see a sexy hot women and to desire her. That is a simple basic reaction. It is much harder for a married man to look at that woman and think "I bless you sister". But it seems like those concepts are too hard for you to comprehend, so you should go back digging your yard.

Believing in any being that you cannot see is not simple. Only kids believe in fairies that they can't see. They also believe in Santa -- but they do see him - or at least people dressed up like him. But eventually, kids give up their belief in Santa. It not cool for an older kids to believe in Santa. Plus the gifts keep coming, which is the important thing, after all!

Some people also give up their belief in God. But some don't. Actually, it's still quite popular and acceptable to believe in God as an adult. In fact, many people are quite vocal about their religious beliefs.

Belief in God is decreasing, but people are not as likely to mention it in casual conversation

Belief in God is decreasing but not because are smarter or wiser (Have you read things written by people hundreds of years ago vs today's gibberish nonsense?!). Rather, people today have developed more technology and distractions to busy and distract themselves from deeper questions in life. More medical advancement have given people a sense of invincibility, thinking that if only they eat the right way, do the right things, take the right antioxidants, they can starve off death (at least until they are ready). All these developments make it easier to ignore God. It's so much easier today to believe tomorrow will come and will look quite like today, but it's all an illusion and everything can change in an instant. This is partly why depression shot up with covid, because many people were confronted for the first time with facing mortality and uncertainty. And covid was really nothing.

Are you suggesting that belief in God is decreasing because of technology and medical advancement?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, go on a silent retreat. The Jesuits offer them. You don't have to go to any of the religious offerings, but can just go and relax and listen.

Not OP, but this is interesting. Have you been to one? Can you tell us more about them?

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Anonymous wrote:^ Believing in God is not a simple answer. It is a hard work, physical and mental, on a daily basis. It is very hard to break that inner bad part of yourself that everyone have in us and to strive to become a better person. I think it is simple for a married man to see a sexy hot women and to desire her. That is a simple basic reaction. It is much harder for a married man to look at that woman and think "I bless you sister". But it seems like those concepts are too hard for you to comprehend, so you should go back digging your yard.

Believing in any being that you cannot see is not simple. Only kids believe in fairies that they can't see. They also believe in Santa -- but they do see him - or at least people dressed up like him. But eventually, kids give up their belief in Santa. It not cool for an older kids to believe in Santa. Plus the gifts keep coming, which is the important thing, after all!

Some people also give up their belief in God. But some don't. Actually, it's still quite popular and acceptable to believe in God as an adult. In fact, many people are quite vocal about their religious beliefs.

Belief in God is decreasing, but people are not as likely to mention it in casual conversation

Belief in God is decreasing but not because are smarter or wiser (Have you read things written by people hundreds of years ago vs today's gibberish nonsense?!). Rather, people today have developed more technology and distractions to busy and distract themselves from deeper questions in life. More medical advancement have given people a sense of invincibility, thinking that if only they eat the right way, do the right things, take the right antioxidants, they can starve off death (at least until they are ready). All these developments make it easier to ignore God. It's so much easier today to believe tomorrow will come and will look quite like today, but it's all an illusion and everything can change in an instant. This is partly why depression shot up with covid, because many people were confronted for the first time with facing mortality and uncertainty. And covid was really nothing.

Are you suggesting that belief in God is decreasing because of technology and medical advancement?

DP. Derailment attempt in aisle five….

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Anonymous wrote:^ Believing in God is not a simple answer. It is a hard work, physical and mental, on a daily basis. It is very hard to break that inner bad part of yourself that everyone have in us and to strive to become a better person. I think it is simple for a married man to see a sexy hot women and to desire her. That is a simple basic reaction. It is much harder for a married man to look at that woman and think "I bless you sister". But it seems like those concepts are too hard for you to comprehend, so you should go back digging your yard.

Believing in any being that you cannot see is not simple. Only kids believe in fairies that they can't see. They also believe in Santa -- but they do see him - or at least people dressed up like him. But eventually, kids give up their belief in Santa. It not cool for an older kids to believe in Santa. Plus the gifts keep coming, which is the important thing, after all!

Some people also give up their belief in God. But some don't. Actually, it's still quite popular and acceptable to believe in God as an adult. In fact, many people are quite vocal about their religious beliefs.

Belief in God is decreasing, but people are not as likely to mention it in casual conversation

Belief in God is decreasing but not because are smarter or wiser (Have you read things written by people hundreds of years ago vs today's gibberish nonsense?!). Rather, people today have developed more technology and distractions to busy and distract themselves from deeper questions in life. More medical advancement have given people a sense of invincibility, thinking that if only they eat the right way, do the right things, take the right antioxidants, they can starve off death (at least until they are ready). All these developments make it easier to ignore God. It's so much easier today to believe tomorrow will come and will look quite like today, but it's all an illusion and everything can change in an instant. This is partly why depression shot up with covid, because many people were confronted for the first time with facing mortality and uncertainty. And covid was really nothing.

Are you suggesting that belief in God is decreasing because of technology and medical advancement?