Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mandatory disclosures would solve that problem

Ah yes, right after the lead paint disclosure that everyone ignores. That'll fix it!

It would be a start. I’d vote for it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just can’t imagine moving near an airport and being annoyed I’m hearing airplanes 🤣🤣

I don’t live near the airport. I live near the river.

And if you had bothered to look up at any point in the home buying process you would have seen that the river is a major flight path. I moved here 30 yeras ago for college at Georgetown and it was a flight path then. It was probably the same for decades before that. You messed up. It's not anyone else's fault but yours. If you can't live with it, then sell the house and move. The rest of the world does not have to change to accommodate your selfish desires.

Anonymous wrote:I just can’t imagine moving near an airport and being annoyed I’m hearing airplanes 🤣🤣

I don’t live near the airport. I live near the river.

Anonymous wrote:Mandatory disclosures would solve that problem

Ah yes, right after the lead paint disclosure that everyone ignores. That'll fix it!

I just can’t imagine moving near an airport and being annoyed I’m hearing airplanes 🤣🤣

Mandatory disclosures would solve that problem

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't assess plane noise just by one visit... if you can't go back and visit multiple days at different times of the day (ideally spread out across a month to account for varying wind speeds), use the Flight Aware app to start looking at the flight patterns over neighborhoods. It shows you exactly when and where planes are going in real time and at what elevation. Then you can guestimate the noise how the noise would be if you were living there.

Ok, if it's that big a deal for you then you should do that. We visited the neighborhoods we were considering many times before we bought. A home purchase is a big decision. If you don't take care in it, then that's on you.

It’s really not possible to do that in the type of market we’ve had for the past few years.

Really? It’s not possible to drive to a neighborhood you’re interested in, park your car, and then walk around a while? Why is this is not possible?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't assess plane noise just by one visit... if you can't go back and visit multiple days at different times of the day (ideally spread out across a month to account for varying wind speeds), use the Flight Aware app to start looking at the flight patterns over neighborhoods. It shows you exactly when and where planes are going in real time and at what elevation. Then you can guestimate the noise how the noise would be if you were living there.

Ok, if it's that big a deal for you then you should do that. We visited the neighborhoods we were considering many times before we bought. A home purchase is a big decision. If you don't take care in it, then that's on you.

It’s really not possible to do that in the type of market we’ve had for the past few years.

We measured the noise levels in the Foxhall and Palisades in the early mornings. If you follow Loudon Co guidelines (DC gov don’t have any even though the noise exceeds the DC regulations every single day and night), we should be losing the residential zoning for the whole chunks of the neighborhood on the noise alone.

For the harms of noise and pollution from the flight path, here’s a really good list:
https://nextgenrelief.org/health-impacts/

Everyone, except apparently the dcum folk who think it’s not a big deal!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted several times because I am tired of the extreme gaslighting. Not the only one by any means. No idea about Cabin John on any given day. DC is really bad.

Well, what are you doing about it other than complaining on this forum?

Here’s a good website with overview of several things:
Communities affected (not too many, DC one of them)
Grassroots activity
Issues and how bad this really is
Myths and reality

It busts the myths that the complainers are “a few hypersensitive individuals” or that people “who moved near the airports” have no right to complain. We really are our own worst enemy (judging by this thread alone).

https://nextgenrelief.org/myth-vs-reality/


“Families tell stories of no longer being able to open their windows at home due to air and noise pollution. Parents explain how their school-age children are woken up at 5AM every morning with a continuous stream of low-flying airplanes over their homes. Seniors citizens worry that they will not be able to sell their homes to fund their future assisted living and nursing home care. And everyone in NextGen’s wake worries about the long-term health impacts of being exposed to a continuous stream of concentrated toxic airplane emissions”

FWIW, the FAA is funding the following studies:
Health impacts of the flight path including cardiovascular
Economic impacts on the property values
Sleep disturbance
White noise to counteract the plane noise

https://www.flyreagan.com/sites/flyreagan.com/files/2022-07/FAA_Health_Impacts_Research%20Final%207-28-2022.pdf

There are a 1000 flights (of all kinds) out/in of DCA every day. They fly over a narrow, concentrated zone and fly low. How can that possibly not be “a big deal”? In the pandemic it was half that, so maybe it was briefly ok. 🤔

If you want to know what’s being done, check here and join the next meeting:

https://www.flyreagan.com/about-airport/aircraft-noise-information/dca-reagan-national-community-working-group

This is a pretty big one, as far as the citizens’ raising awareness goes, b/c of the number of views. There are also active citizen groups, ANC and Ward efforts, as well as Congressional efforts. I feel that it’s good that that dcum exists and that a couple of OPs provided a platform to get the correct and up to date information out: no lies, no gaslighting, just facts.