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Anonymous wrote:Reflective gear is super important, but it gets dark at 5 PM now and some of us actually use bikes for transportation. "Stop doing your daily commute/errands" is not a reasonable ask any more than telling you not to drive after dark if you don't feel confident that you can see cyclists. We should wear brighter gear and more lights, and you should drive carefully and expect to share the road.

You can blame other people all you want (and we know cyclists love to blame everyone else for everything). But you'll be the person who's dead if a driver doesn't see you.

And you are the person with the $50 ticket and lifelong guilt.

Nope. No guilt. I have $50. You’ll be dead. Pretty damn sure I win in that scenario.

How do you know you wouldn't feel any guilt? Have you killed people before?

DP

If I struck someone on a bike as a result of their own negligence- like running a stop sign or red-light or riding the wrong way on the road - NO, I wouldn’t feel any guilt at all. They’re dead because of their own stupid actions, and they dragged me into their stupidity that resulted in their death. Not only would I not feel anything other than anger at them, but I’d also sue their estate for damages to my vehicle.

Scientific data tells us that, in most circumstances, if you did strike someone biking within the city limits and ended up killing them, you were probably traveling in excess of posted municipal speed limits and would therefore be culpable for their death. A wrongful death lawsuit could then be filed against you. Although this assumes that the police unit in charge of the investigation ever got around to releasing your information to the victim's family.

If I’m passing through an intersection on a green light at the posted speed limit of say, 30 mph, like on Nebraska Ave, and some idiot on a bike runs a red light and goes out in front of me, they’re probably going to get killed. Especially if they’re not wearing a helmet - which a lot of riders seem not to do, especially on bike share bikes.

The thing is - I have a dash camera. And it records my speed all the time. And the video from the dash camera will clearly show that I’m not at fault.

And after the police watch it and don’t charge me because I’m not at fault, I’ll post the video on YouTube so millions of strangers can watch some dumbass kill themself because they didn’t need to stop.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really hard for drivers to see you, even if you have a headlight on your bike and a little reflector on your helmet. That just isn't enough. You need something much brighter like a reflective vest. I hate driving this time of year when the sun goes down so early because bicyclists just seem to pop out of nowhere. It is an accident waiting to happen.

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It's really hard for drivers to see anything but another car their own size with their taillights on, when most of their attention is on their phone.

Sounds like biking on the road with cars is dangerous. I guess I won't do it then.

Doing anything on the road with cars is dangerous, including driving a car.

How about I be personally responsible for my safety and you do the same.

Wouldn't shooting you preemptively be ok under the scheme? It's just protecting myself. If you really care you'll wear body armor to be responsible for your own safety.

All people are saying is please wear a protective vest for your safety and everyone’s well being. How you go from refusing to wear a vest to arguing that you can shoot people preemptively I am not sure but it really shows how extreme your views are.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really hard for drivers to see you, even if you have a headlight on your bike and a little reflector on your helmet. That just isn't enough. You need something much brighter like a reflective vest. I hate driving this time of year when the sun goes down so early because bicyclists just seem to pop out of nowhere. It is an accident waiting to happen.

+1

It's really hard for drivers to see anything but another car their own size with their taillights on, when most of their attention is on their phone.

Sounds like biking on the road with cars is dangerous. I guess I won't do it then.

Doing anything on the road with cars is dangerous, including driving a car.

How about I be personally responsible for my safety and you do the same.

Wouldn't shooting you preemptively be ok under the scheme? It's just protecting myself. If you really care you'll wear body armor to be responsible for your own safety.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really hard for drivers to see you, even if you have a headlight on your bike and a little reflector on your helmet. That just isn't enough. You need something much brighter like a reflective vest. I hate driving this time of year when the sun goes down so early because bicyclists just seem to pop out of nowhere. It is an accident waiting to happen.

+1

It's really hard for drivers to see anything but another car their own size with their taillights on, when most of their attention is on their phone.

Sounds like biking on the road with cars is dangerous. I guess I won't do it then.

Doing anything on the road with cars is dangerous, including driving a car.

How about I be personally responsible for my safety and you do the same.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really hard for drivers to see you, even if you have a headlight on your bike and a little reflector on your helmet. That just isn't enough. You need something much brighter like a reflective vest. I hate driving this time of year when the sun goes down so early because bicyclists just seem to pop out of nowhere. It is an accident waiting to happen.

+1

It's really hard for drivers to see anything but another car their own size with their taillights on, when most of their attention is on their phone.

Sounds like biking on the road with cars is dangerous. I guess I won't do it then.

Doing anything on the road with cars is dangerous, including driving a car.

How about I be personally responsible for my safety and you do the same.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really hard for drivers to see you, even if you have a headlight on your bike and a little reflector on your helmet. That just isn't enough. You need something much brighter like a reflective vest. I hate driving this time of year when the sun goes down so early because bicyclists just seem to pop out of nowhere. It is an accident waiting to happen.

+1

It's really hard for drivers to see anything but another car their own size with their taillights on, when most of their attention is on their phone.

Sounds like biking on the road with cars is dangerous. I guess I won't do it then.

Doing anything on the road with cars is dangerous, including driving a car.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really hard for drivers to see you, even if you have a headlight on your bike and a little reflector on your helmet. That just isn't enough. You need something much brighter like a reflective vest. I hate driving this time of year when the sun goes down so early because bicyclists just seem to pop out of nowhere. It is an accident waiting to happen.

+1

It's really hard for drivers to see anything but another car their own size with their taillights on, when most of their attention is on their phone.

Sounds like biking on the road with cars is dangerous. I guess I won't do it then.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really hard for drivers to see you, even if you have a headlight on your bike and a little reflector on your helmet. That just isn't enough. You need something much brighter like a reflective vest. I hate driving this time of year when the sun goes down so early because bicyclists just seem to pop out of nowhere. It is an accident waiting to happen.

+1

It's really hard for drivers to see anything but another car their own size with their taillights on, when most of their attention is on their phone.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really hard for drivers to see you, even if you have a headlight on your bike and a little reflector on your helmet. That just isn't enough. You need something much brighter like a reflective vest. I hate driving this time of year when the sun goes down so early because bicyclists just seem to pop out of nowhere. It is an accident waiting to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really hard for drivers to see you, even if you have a headlight on your bike and a little reflector on your helmet. That just isn't enough. You need something much brighter like a reflective vest. I hate driving this time of year when the sun goes down so early because bicyclists just seem to pop out of nowhere. It is an accident waiting to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Reflective gear is super important, but it gets dark at 5 PM now and some of us actually use bikes for transportation. "Stop doing your daily commute/errands" is not a reasonable ask any more than telling you not to drive after dark if you don't feel confident that you can see cyclists. We should wear brighter gear and more lights, and you should drive carefully and expect to share the road.

You can blame other people all you want (and we know cyclists love to blame everyone else for everything). But you'll be the person who's dead if a driver doesn't see you.

And you are the person with the $50 ticket and lifelong guilt.

Nope. No guilt. I have $50. You’ll be dead. Pretty damn sure I win in that scenario.

How do you know you wouldn't feel any guilt? Have you killed people before?

DP

If I struck someone on a bike as a result of their own negligence- like running a stop sign or red-light or riding the wrong way on the road - NO, I wouldn’t feel any guilt at all. They’re dead because of their own stupid actions, and they dragged me into their stupidity that resulted in their death. Not only would I not feel anything other than anger at them, but I’d also sue their estate for damages to my vehicle.

Scientific data tells us that, in most circumstances, if you did strike someone biking within the city limits and ended up killing them, you were probably traveling in excess of posted municipal speed limits and would therefore be culpable for their death. A wrongful death lawsuit could then be filed against you. Although this assumes that the police unit in charge of the investigation ever got around to releasing your information to the victim's family.

If I’m passing through an intersection on a green light at the posted speed limit of say, 30 mph, like on Nebraska Ave, and some idiot on a bike runs a red light and goes out in front of me, they’re probably going to get killed. Especially if they’re not wearing a helmet - which a lot of riders seem not to do, especially on bike share bikes.

The thing is - I have a dash camera. And it records my speed all the time. And the video from the dash camera will clearly show that I’m not at fault.

And after the police watch it and don’t charge me because I’m not at fault, I’ll post the video on YouTube so millions of strangers can watch some dumbass kill themself because they didn’t need to stop.

Look at this guy calling other dumbasses while linking his IP address to threats of vehicular homicide. What a genius.

DP here but its really clear to me that you don’t know what either a “threat” or “vehicular homicide” means.

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Anonymous wrote:Reflective gear is super important, but it gets dark at 5 PM now and some of us actually use bikes for transportation. "Stop doing your daily commute/errands" is not a reasonable ask any more than telling you not to drive after dark if you don't feel confident that you can see cyclists. We should wear brighter gear and more lights, and you should drive carefully and expect to share the road.

You can blame other people all you want (and we know cyclists love to blame everyone else for everything). But you'll be the person who's dead if a driver doesn't see you.

And you are the person with the $50 ticket and lifelong guilt.

Nope. No guilt. I have $50. You’ll be dead. Pretty damn sure I win in that scenario.

How do you know you wouldn't feel any guilt? Have you killed people before?

DP

If I struck someone on a bike as a result of their own negligence- like running a stop sign or red-light or riding the wrong way on the road - NO, I wouldn’t feel any guilt at all. They’re dead because of their own stupid actions, and they dragged me into their stupidity that resulted in their death. Not only would I not feel anything other than anger at them, but I’d also sue their estate for damages to my vehicle.

Scientific data tells us that, in most circumstances, if you did strike someone biking within the city limits and ended up killing them, you were probably traveling in excess of posted municipal speed limits and would therefore be culpable for their death. A wrongful death lawsuit could then be filed against you. Although this assumes that the police unit in charge of the investigation ever got around to releasing your information to the victim's family.

If I’m passing through an intersection on a green light at the posted speed limit of say, 30 mph, like on Nebraska Ave, and some idiot on a bike runs a red light and goes out in front of me, they’re probably going to get killed. Especially if they’re not wearing a helmet - which a lot of riders seem not to do, especially on bike share bikes.

The thing is - I have a dash camera. And it records my speed all the time. And the video from the dash camera will clearly show that I’m not at fault.

And after the police watch it and don’t charge me because I’m not at fault, I’ll post the video on YouTube so millions of strangers can watch some dumbass kill themself because they didn’t need to stop.

Look at this guy calling other dumbasses while linking his IP address to threats of vehicular homicide. What a genius.

DP here but its really clear to me that you don’t know what either a “threat” or “vehicular homicide” means.

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Anonymous wrote:Reflective gear is super important, but it gets dark at 5 PM now and some of us actually use bikes for transportation. "Stop doing your daily commute/errands" is not a reasonable ask any more than telling you not to drive after dark if you don't feel confident that you can see cyclists. We should wear brighter gear and more lights, and you should drive carefully and expect to share the road.

You can blame other people all you want (and we know cyclists love to blame everyone else for everything). But you'll be the person who's dead if a driver doesn't see you.

And you are the person with the $50 ticket and lifelong guilt.

Nope. No guilt. I have $50. You’ll be dead. Pretty damn sure I win in that scenario.

How do you know you wouldn't feel any guilt? Have you killed people before?

DP

If I struck someone on a bike as a result of their own negligence- like running a stop sign or red-light or riding the wrong way on the road - NO, I wouldn’t feel any guilt at all. They’re dead because of their own stupid actions, and they dragged me into their stupidity that resulted in their death. Not only would I not feel anything other than anger at them, but I’d also sue their estate for damages to my vehicle.

Scientific data tells us that, in most circumstances, if you did strike someone biking within the city limits and ended up killing them, you were probably traveling in excess of posted municipal speed limits and would therefore be culpable for their death. A wrongful death lawsuit could then be filed against you. Although this assumes that the police unit in charge of the investigation ever got around to releasing your information to the victim's family.

If I’m passing through an intersection on a green light at the posted speed limit of say, 30 mph, like on Nebraska Ave, and some idiot on a bike runs a red light and goes out in front of me, they’re probably going to get killed. Especially if they’re not wearing a helmet - which a lot of riders seem not to do, especially on bike share bikes.

The thing is - I have a dash camera. And it records my speed all the time. And the video from the dash camera will clearly show that I’m not at fault.

And after the police watch it and don’t charge me because I’m not at fault, I’ll post the video on YouTube so millions of strangers can watch some dumbass kill themself because they didn’t need to stop.

Look at this guy calling other dumbasses while linking his IP address to threats of vehicular homicide. What a genius.

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Anonymous wrote:Reflective gear is super important, but it gets dark at 5 PM now and some of us actually use bikes for transportation. "Stop doing your daily commute/errands" is not a reasonable ask any more than telling you not to drive after dark if you don't feel confident that you can see cyclists. We should wear brighter gear and more lights, and you should drive carefully and expect to share the road.

You can blame other people all you want (and we know cyclists love to blame everyone else for everything). But you'll be the person who's dead if a driver doesn't see you.

And you are the person with the $50 ticket and lifelong guilt.

Nope. No guilt. I have $50. You’ll be dead. Pretty damn sure I win in that scenario.

How do you know you wouldn't feel any guilt? Have you killed people before?

DP

If I struck someone on a bike as a result of their own negligence- like running a stop sign or red-light or riding the wrong way on the road - NO, I wouldn’t feel any guilt at all. They’re dead because of their own stupid actions, and they dragged me into their stupidity that resulted in their death. Not only would I not feel anything other than anger at them, but I’d also sue their estate for damages to my vehicle.

Scientific data tells us that, in most circumstances, if you did strike someone biking within the city limits and ended up killing them, you were probably traveling in excess of posted municipal speed limits and would therefore be culpable for their death. A wrongful death lawsuit could then be filed against you. Although this assumes that the police unit in charge of the investigation ever got around to releasing your information to the victim's family.

If I’m passing through an intersection on a green light at the posted speed limit of say, 30 mph, like on Nebraska Ave, and some idiot on a bike runs a red light and goes out in front of me, they’re probably going to get killed. Especially if they’re not wearing a helmet - which a lot of riders seem not to do, especially on bike share bikes.

The thing is - I have a dash camera. And it records my speed all the time. And the video from the dash camera will clearly show that I’m not at fault.

And after the police watch it and don’t charge me because I’m not at fault, I’ll post the video on YouTube so millions of strangers can watch some dumbass kill themself because they didn’t need to stop.