Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 09:47     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

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Anonymous wrote:It's a shame of TJ, FCPS Board, and Dem. Let's go back to the traditional valuation to focus on education instead of on politics.


Rs have decided to make “education” a wedge issue. They DGAF about kids. They will say whatever they think will get them elected. And some idiots believed them.


Only an idiot will believe that republicans have anything to do with the sad state of affairs at FCPS. But try to keep deflecting. Voters are not fools as was apparent in the last gubernatorial election.


Youngkin shows us we have too many fools. Rs aren’t going to help with public education. Quite the opposite. They want to push to privatize and defund our schools.


Your use of “we” and “us” betrays your pomposity and an inherent sense of superiority. If you look beyond your echo chamber, you will find that there are many who have no use for those that weaponize equity. Youngkin won an election - by definition thag means that more people thought differently than you. Call them fools but really the joke is on you.

Many of us are invested in education and not necessarily public education. If the progressives take FCPS down the gutter, I am all for vouchers. I hope it does not happen by TV like many citizens I care for students’ welfare and big entrenched political positions. It will be an honor to be listed as a “fool” k. Your list.


I strongly believe in public education. We are only as “educated” as our most vulnerable in our community.

Defunding public education to subsidize private school only for rich and/or talented kids will drive our schools into the ground and create even more inequalities. It will hurt our community.

Fools think that the GOP will help our schools.
A-holes hope that the GOP destroy our schools.



Your beliefs are your beliefs. They work for you. Others use yardsticks which may be very different from your beliefs. And democracy has a way of working out who prevails. You can rant and call people names (very Trump-like ironically) but it does not really matter.

Good public education is the best alternative. But in a democracy, we should always have alternatives. Bad public education - and I hope FCPS is not headed that way - implies we trigger those alternatives. Vouchers included.

Many of us are moderates and independents. We would like common sense reform across the board - be it guns, public education (including fixing TJ’s broken admission system). There is no interest in partisan ideologues who don’t allow any space for compromise. The democrats on public education are exactly there and there has already been blowback in other states (California for one).

And if you poll Asians they will probably put Education at par with guns and abortion in terms of issues that matter to them. Whether the Asian vote moves the needle in local elections in NoVa is moot - they can absolutely impact national elections in Va. And the Democrats are losing Asian-American support with their narrative on Education issues.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 08:11     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a shame of TJ, FCPS Board, and Dem. Let's go back to the traditional valuation to focus on education instead of on politics.


Rs have decided to make “education” a wedge issue. They DGAF about kids. They will say whatever they think will get them elected. And some idiots believed them.


Only an idiot will believe that republicans have anything to do with the sad state of affairs at FCPS. But try to keep deflecting. Voters are not fools as was apparent in the last gubernatorial election.


Youngkin shows us we have too many fools. Rs aren’t going to help with public education. Quite the opposite. They want to push to privatize and defund our schools.


Your use of “we” and “us” betrays your pomposity and an inherent sense of superiority. If you look beyond your echo chamber, you will find that there are many who have no use for those that weaponize equity. Youngkin won an election - by definition thag means that more people thought differently than you. Call them fools but really the joke is on you.

Many of us are invested in education and not necessarily public education. If the progressives take FCPS down the gutter, I am all for vouchers. I hope it does not happen by TV like many citizens I care for students’ welfare and big entrenched political positions. It will be an honor to be listed as a “fool” k. Your list.


Virginia is a Purple State, the fact is that Trump supporters came out to support Trump and the Republican ticket last election and there are enough Trump supporters in the South of the state that Youngkin won. He did not win or come close to winning in FCPS or most of NoVA. Assuming that the R's are going to do well in local elections in this area is silly.

If the R's want my vote for the School Board they need to run moderates and not Trump supporters. That means, for me, a Youngkin supporter is out because I don't trust their educational positions.

You cannot read Virginia elections as a measure of support across the state.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 08:09     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

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Relax. No one is getting kicked out. Most parents will sign the form and submit it to the middle school. FCPS is NOT engaging in forensic accounting.

People that checked yes will not have a problem lying again. There might be a handful that won’t, but the biggest cheaters will still be at TJ next year.


Except there's not simply a form to sign. They're (finally!) asking for actual third-party documentation. I think it is highly likely that some offers of admission will indeed be rescinded. It seems quite clear that they awarded the experience factor to anyone who answered yes and will now award it only to those who can provide documentation. There is no doubt that many families answered yes and do not have documentation, and surely for some of them the EF was the difference between admission and non-admission.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 08:05     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

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Anonymous wrote:I was hoping my daughter could be pulled off from the waitlist before today. Now I feel that it’s probably better to peacefully study in the base school. The board made too much drama in TJ admission.


+100

I wish they would just shut it down. It’s become a train wreak of parents stabbing each other. Why don’t we just grow the pie instead of fighting over the crumbs of TJ?



The Left always prioritizes equality if division over growth. Eventually there is no motivation to grow and there is nothing left to divide.

If this approach had worked the Cold War would have ended differently and we would be living in the Utopia that was promised.

There are already many voices in favor of shutting down TJ. Those voices will only multiply over time.


So you’re upset cheaters are getting kicked out?


Yes how's a person to game the system these days with all these changes they're making. It used to be you could take a class at a prep center and pretty much guarantee your kid would get in.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 07:51     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a shame of TJ, FCPS Board, and Dem. Let's go back to the traditional valuation to focus on education instead of on politics.


Rs have decided to make “education” a wedge issue. They DGAF about kids. They will say whatever they think will get them elected. And some idiots believed them.


Only an idiot will believe that republicans have anything to do with the sad state of affairs at FCPS. But try to keep deflecting. Voters are not fools as was apparent in the last gubernatorial election.


Youngkin shows us we have too many fools. Rs aren’t going to help with public education. Quite the opposite. They want to push to privatize and defund our schools.


Your use of “we” and “us” betrays your pomposity and an inherent sense of superiority. If you look beyond your echo chamber, you will find that there are many who have no use for those that weaponize equity. Youngkin won an election - by definition thag means that more people thought differently than you. Call them fools but really the joke is on you.

Many of us are invested in education and not necessarily public education. If the progressives take FCPS down the gutter, I am all for vouchers. I hope it does not happen by TV like many citizens I care for students’ welfare and big entrenched political positions. It will be an honor to be listed as a “fool” k. Your list.


I strongly believe in public education. We are only as “educated” as our most vulnerable in our community.

Defunding public education to subsidize private school only for rich and/or talented kids will drive our schools into the ground and create even more inequalities. It will hurt our community.

Fools think that the GOP will help our schools.
A-holes hope that the GOP destroy our schools.

Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 07:47     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was hoping my daughter could be pulled off from the waitlist before today. Now I feel that it’s probably better to peacefully study in the base school. The board made too much drama in TJ admission.


+100

I wish they would just shut it down. It’s become a train wreak of parents stabbing each other. Why don’t we just grow the pie instead of fighting over the crumbs of TJ?



The Left always prioritizes equality if division over growth. Eventually there is no motivation to grow and there is nothing left to divide.

If this approach had worked the Cold War would have ended differently and we would be living in the Utopia that was promised.

There are already many voices in favor of shutting down TJ. Those voices will only multiply over time.


So you’re upset cheaters are getting kicked out?


Relax. No one is getting kicked out. Most parents will sign the form and submit it to the middle school. FCPS is NOT engaging in forensic accounting.

People that checked yes will not have a problem lying again. There might be a handful that won’t, but the biggest cheaters will still be at TJ next year.


I really hope the parents sign the form, because that form is 1) and application for federal aid and 2) lying on it is a federal crime


FCPS will never NEVER prosecute someone for lying on that form. Especially if it is a parent that fits their political agenda. The federal government is not in the business of auditing free meals forms.

If it’s a parent that is involved in the current admissions lawsuit, that’s another story.

Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 07:43     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was hoping my daughter could be pulled off from the waitlist before today. Now I feel that it’s probably better to peacefully study in the base school. The board made too much drama in TJ admission.


+100

I wish they would just shut it down. It’s become a train wreak of parents stabbing each other. Why don’t we just grow the pie instead of fighting over the crumbs of TJ?



The Left always prioritizes equality if division over growth. Eventually there is no motivation to grow and there is nothing left to divide.

If this approach had worked the Cold War would have ended differently and we would be living in the Utopia that was promised.

There are already many voices in favor of shutting down TJ. Those voices will only multiply over time.


So you’re upset cheaters are getting kicked out?


Relax. No one is getting kicked out. Most parents will sign the form and submit it to the middle school. FCPS is NOT engaging in forensic accounting.

People that checked yes will not have a problem lying again. There might be a handful that won’t, but the biggest cheaters will still be at TJ next year.


I really hope the parents sign the form, because that form is 1) and application for federal aid and 2) lying on it is a federal crime
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 07:41     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a shame of TJ, FCPS Board, and Dem. Let's go back to the traditional valuation to focus on education instead of on politics.


Rs have decided to make “education” a wedge issue. They DGAF about kids. They will say whatever they think will get them elected. And some idiots believed them.


Only an idiot will believe that republicans have anything to do with the sad state of affairs at FCPS. But try to keep deflecting. Voters are not fools as was apparent in the last gubernatorial election.


Youngkin shows us we have too many fools. Rs aren’t going to help with public education. Quite the opposite. They want to push to privatize and defund our schools.


Your use of “we” and “us” betrays your pomposity and an inherent sense of superiority. If you look beyond your echo chamber, you will find that there are many who have no use for those that weaponize equity. Youngkin won an election - by definition thag means that more people thought differently than you. Call them fools but really the joke is on you.

Many of us are invested in education and not necessarily public education. If the progressives take FCPS down the gutter, I am all for vouchers. I hope it does not happen by TV like many citizens I care for students’ welfare and big entrenched political positions. It will be an honor to be listed as a “fool” k. Your list.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 07:40     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was hoping my daughter could be pulled off from the waitlist before today. Now I feel that it’s probably better to peacefully study in the base school. The board made too much drama in TJ admission.


+100

I wish they would just shut it down. It’s become a train wreak of parents stabbing each other. Why don’t we just grow the pie instead of fighting over the crumbs of TJ?



The Left always prioritizes equality if division over growth. Eventually there is no motivation to grow and there is nothing left to divide.

If this approach had worked the Cold War would have ended differently and we would be living in the Utopia that was promised.

There are already many voices in favor of shutting down TJ. Those voices will only multiply over time.


So you’re upset cheaters are getting kicked out?


So you are ok with the communist framework of the reform approach?


“Communist”
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 07:37     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

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Anonymous wrote:Most want to see admissions based on STEM interest and aptitude, not demographics.


Sure, but STEM interest and aptitude across the county. Not just a few affluent middle schools.


What if the kids with the most interest and aptitude aren't evenly distributed across the county? Why are you so obsessed with whether certain middle schools are "affluent" and less interested in whether TJ is actually fulfilling the obligations of a Governor's School?


When your privileged kid is in a rich school, they have many opportunities that kids in crappy poor schools don’t. So what looks like “interest and aptitude” in your rich kids is actually a significant function of their privilege. So no, you don’t get to take all or most of the spots. Sorry.


So your argument is that kids in “crappy poor” schools need TJ more because their base schools are so bad, regardless of whether they are the best qualified?

Got it. Sounds like quite an indictment of FCPS.


We disagree on how to measure the best qualified.

I am fine with using MS GPS based on similar classes across the county. I do think that they should require that kids have Geometry and Algebra 1 in order to apply for TJ but that is the only real change that I think they need to make.

Others, and I don't know if you fall into this group, think that activities outside of MS should be included in the evaluation. They believe that the ability to attend extra curricular activities or enrichment math or STEM programs shows that those kids are more qualified.

I don't see TJ as a place that should demand that 13 year olds have already devoted their childhood to STEM but should be a place for kids who are smart and motivated and interested in STEM to attend. I also see that many kids do not have the ability to participate in STEM extra curricular activities. Those activities require time, money, and transportation. Yes, many programs offer scholarships for under privileged kids but the child still has to get to the class, which requires transportation and someone to drop off and pick up. Not every child has that ability. Not every ES has the same STEM after school programs.

I happen to believe that 1.5% from each MS is a good way of distributing seats because it allows kids from every school an opportunity to attend TJ if their grades are good enough and they are interested in STEM.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 07:37     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was hoping my daughter could be pulled off from the waitlist before today. Now I feel that it’s probably better to peacefully study in the base school. The board made too much drama in TJ admission.


+100

I wish they would just shut it down. It’s become a train wreak of parents stabbing each other. Why don’t we just grow the pie instead of fighting over the crumbs of TJ?



The Left always prioritizes equality if division over growth. Eventually there is no motivation to grow and there is nothing left to divide.

If this approach had worked the Cold War would have ended differently and we would be living in the Utopia that was promised.

There are already many voices in favor of shutting down TJ. Those voices will only multiply over time.


So you’re upset cheaters are getting kicked out?


Relax. No one is getting kicked out. Most parents will sign the form and submit it to the middle school. FCPS is NOT engaging in forensic accounting.

People that checked yes will not have a problem lying again. There might be a handful that won’t, but the biggest cheaters will still be at TJ next year.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 07:33     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was hoping my daughter could be pulled off from the waitlist before today. Now I feel that it’s probably better to peacefully study in the base school. The board made too much drama in TJ admission.


+100

I wish they would just shut it down. It’s become a train wreak of parents stabbing each other. Why don’t we just grow the pie instead of fighting over the crumbs of TJ?



The Left always prioritizes equality if division over growth. Eventually there is no motivation to grow and there is nothing left to divide.

If this approach had worked the Cold War would have ended differently and we would be living in the Utopia that was promised.

There are already many voices in favor of shutting down TJ. Those voices will only multiply over time.


So you’re upset cheaters are getting kicked out?


So you are ok with the communist framework of the reform approach?
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 07:27     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:I was hoping my daughter could be pulled off from the waitlist before today. Now I feel that it’s probably better to peacefully study in the base school. The board made too much drama in TJ admission.


A very small percentage of the County cares about TJ enough to discuss it and an even smaller percentage of the County cares enough about TJ to debate it. Your daughter would probably have a great experience if she had an opportunity to attend. The very small percentage of people massively invested in TJ are posting here.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 07:23     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a shame of TJ, FCPS Board, and Dem. Let's go back to the traditional valuation to focus on education instead of on politics.


Rs have decided to make “education” a wedge issue. They DGAF about kids. They will say whatever they think will get them elected. And some idiots believed them.


Only an idiot will believe that republicans have anything to do with the sad state of affairs at FCPS. But try to keep deflecting. Voters are not fools as was apparent in the last gubernatorial election.


Youngkin shows us we have too many fools. Rs aren’t going to help with public education. Quite the opposite. They want to push to privatize and defund our schools.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2022 06:21     Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was hoping my daughter could be pulled off from the waitlist before today. Now I feel that it’s probably better to peacefully study in the base school. The board made too much drama in TJ admission.


+100

I wish they would just shut it down. It’s become a train wreak of parents stabbing each other. Why don’t we just grow the pie instead of fighting over the crumbs of TJ?



The Left always prioritizes equality if division over growth. Eventually there is no motivation to grow and there is nothing left to divide.

If this approach had worked the Cold War would have ended differently and we would be living in the Utopia that was promised.

There are already many voices in favor of shutting down TJ. Those voices will only multiply over time.


So you’re upset cheaters are getting kicked out?