Anonymous
Post 06/09/2022 10:00     Subject: Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
Anonymous wrote:Spike strips. Oh, it's dangerous, you say? Yes, it is. But careening wheelies without a helmet already is dangerous and irresponsible and likely to get someone killed. They already signed up for risk when they took their ATVs and dirt bikes out.


Yeah, I'd rather not have to increase taxes to pay for all the liability and settlements.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2022 08:37     Subject: Re:Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New York Times video journalism on “biker boys” culture in the DMV:



Some on this thread proposed: “well, just pass a registration law.”

After watching this video, it is laughably naive to believe these young gentlemen will gladly line up to register their machines, if only we just pass yet another law.

Without enforcement, laws are meaningless.



Without registration there's nothing to enforce.


I used to illegally ride dirt bikes as a teen, too. No license plates on our bikes, because they were dirt bikes, not legal to be on roads. We got chased by police many times. But of course, we lived in the country, and one could easily dodge them by riding up into the woods where police cruisers couldn't follow.

Yes, they can and should enforce the laws. Registrations and lack of registration are parts of the laws to be enforced.
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2022 08:27     Subject: Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
I will fund the spike strips or anything really that gets the job done. These are domestic terrorists from other states
Anonymous
Post 06/09/2022 08:25     Subject: Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
Spike strips. Oh, it's dangerous, you say? Yes, it is. But careening wheelies without a helmet already is dangerous and irresponsible and likely to get someone killed. They already signed up for risk when they took their ATVs and dirt bikes out.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2022 19:20     Subject: Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
See they will b/c laws rule the road. Anyway, no point in engaging with you since it’s all very circular, boring and (pun intended) pedestrian.

Even when someone is so wrong and stubborn it helps one enjoy the discussion if there’s an occasional glint of intelligence vs. spewing of ideology from the other side
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2022 18:59     Subject: Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, as long as they trigger an acoustic camera. Bring the rule of law!

Cool. So if I buy an quiet electric car traffic laws won’t apply to me.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2022 18:51     Subject: Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
Yes, as long as they trigger an acoustic camera. Bring the rule of law!
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2022 17:55     Subject: Re:Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New York Times video journalism on “biker boys” culture in the DMV:



Some on this thread proposed: “well, just pass a registration law.”

After watching this video, it is laughably naive to believe these young gentlemen will gladly line up to register their machines, if only we just pass yet another law.

Without enforcement, laws are meaningless.



Without registration there's nothing to enforce.

Without clear rules there cannot be enforceable regulations.



Rules are there. It's illegal to ride those vehicles on the street, hold up traffic and drive recklessly. If you flee deadly force is allowed

And by “those vehicles” you also mean electric bikes, correct?
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2022 16:28     Subject: Re:Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New York Times video journalism on “biker boys” culture in the DMV:



Some on this thread proposed: “well, just pass a registration law.”

After watching this video, it is laughably naive to believe these young gentlemen will gladly line up to register their machines, if only we just pass yet another law.

Without enforcement, laws are meaningless.



Without registration there's nothing to enforce.

Without clear rules there cannot be enforceable regulations.



Rules are there. It's illegal to ride those vehicles on the street, hold up traffic and drive recklessly. If you flee deadly force is allowed
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2022 14:50     Subject: Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, then there’s this from Philly too:

“I really love this city. One moment it’s quiet, next there’s fireworks, after a shooting then more fireworks then ATVs driving by. this city is like no other”

Hashtag vibrancy Hashtag kids Hashtag look on the bright side of life (Monty Python)


Philadelphia? That city keeps coming up. Some of you will respond / understand better once you actually see the reality on city streets.

So come and see. It is hard to watch, but please watch to the end. Yes - it’s less pleasant than a haughty NYT editorial by a young Yale graduate who thinks he has all the answers (but no life experience):



This is Philly today.

What is happening in this video?

But speaking of biker boys, and the New York Times, it is worth posting this again:



Anonymous
Post 06/06/2022 14:54     Subject: Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
To the PP who glamorizes trashy behavior (it’s trashy when white “kids” do it too), please get some help. Won’t waste any more time on debating stupid, this will get addressed where it should be anyway
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2022 11:52     Subject: Re:Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New York Times video journalism on “biker boys” culture in the DMV:



Some on this thread proposed: “well, just pass a registration law.”

After watching this video, it is laughably naive to believe these young gentlemen will gladly line up to register their machines, if only we just pass yet another law.

Without enforcement, laws are meaningless.



Without registration there's nothing to enforce.

Without clear rules there cannot be enforceable regulations.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2022 09:36     Subject: Re:Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
Anonymous wrote:New York Times video journalism on “biker boys” culture in the DMV:



Some on this thread proposed: “well, just pass a registration law.”

After watching this video, it is laughably naive to believe these young gentlemen will gladly line up to register their machines, if only we just pass yet another law.

Without enforcement, laws are meaningless.



Without registration there's nothing to enforce.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2022 09:05     Subject: Re:Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
New York Times video journalism on “biker boys” culture in the DMV:



Some on this thread proposed: “well, just pass a registration law.”

After watching this video, it is laughably naive to believe these young gentlemen will gladly line up to register their machines, if only we just pass yet another law.

Without enforcement, laws are meaningless.

Anonymous
Post 06/06/2022 09:01     Subject: Loud ATV drivers at night? City government? Police?
Anonymous wrote:Well, then there’s this from Philly too:

“I really love this city. One moment it’s quiet, next there’s fireworks, after a shooting then more fireworks then ATVs driving by. this city is like no other”

Hashtag vibrancy Hashtag kids Hashtag look on the bright side of life (Monty Python)


Philadelphia? That city keeps coming up. Some of you will respond / understand better once you actually see the reality on city streets.

So come and see. It is hard to watch, but please watch to the end. Yes - it’s less pleasant than a haughty NYT editorial by a young Yale graduate who thinks he has all the answers (but no life experience):



This is Philly today.

But speaking of biker boys, and the New York Times, it is worth posting this again: