Anonymous wrote:You can't show any correlation between schools that were closed and lives saved vs schools open and lives saved. It was a mistake but the real issue isn't what happened in the past. That's a distraction tactic. The real problem is that schools were closed and learning loss has been substantial. That is an irrefutable fact as reflected in test scores. There was no attempt made to make up for the learning loss. That Is also a fact. There is one person responsible for those facts and her name is Monifa.

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Anonymous wrote:I work at one of the schools with very few active parents. The majority of my parents are very friendly and appreciative but speak very little English. For other students, I have no contact with their parents.

There are not many schools in the county with very active parents- though those parents are way more likely to be on DCUM and friends with those on DCUM. I can see those parents being frustrating, but that is just not my reality or the reality of anyone who works in my cluster (Seneca Valley). However, that doesn't represent the majority of county schools.

Like a PP, we don't actually talk about the superintendent much, but we do talk over and over again about how far Montgomery county has fallen. How there are no academic expectations. How there are no behavioral expectations. How the schools aren't safe. How there are no substitutes. How we feel like we can't teach anymore. How we are all miserable.

Although these are themes we are seeing around the country, we had hoped that a new superintendent would come in with suggestions. I think that is the part that is so hard. All we are hearing is how it will get worse before it gets better. We already know that there will be more unfilled teacher openings. We are also not hearing that there will be any plan to make discipline in schools a priority. Things like that.

I think that is why there is so much negativity. Everyone wants hope and currently there is no hope in the county.

We very much want to be active but our PTA president is the ultimate mean girl along with her friends and either doesn’t respond or refuses help so no good way to participate. MCCPTA and the school admin are equally cliquey and supports her behavior. Tired of people complaining about the lack of volunteers when some of us try and get shut out.

I’ll tell you like I tell kids… this is an excuse, a cop out. If you and a bunch of people really want to volunteer for PTA and can’t then form your own group or booster and do just that. Volunteer aline directly w/ the school to help in any teacher’s classroom, or to serve as a general school floater to make copies and run errands or just watch someone class so they can go to the bathroom. Better yet, elections come up every year or two, run against the “mean girl” or vote them out for someone else. MCCPTA has dozens of open positions on the board and need for chairs of things.

I agree that no one wants to have mean girl president, but if you really want to do something, she shouldn’t be what holds you back.

MCCPTA is not exactly a welcoming group to outsiders. Clearly you are one of them. Many schools, even before covid, didn't allow parent volunteers. Ours did not. And, MCCPTA doesn't like competition or outside groups. They get pretty nasty about it (speaking from experience).

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Anonymous wrote:I remember 2020 and 2021 like yesterday. I remember reading " lazy teachers playing games on zoom for 3 hours with kids while collecting a check.", "They owe us money for the time they took away from our children as we pay their salaries.", "They are too concerned about COVID to consider the harm they are doing to our child.", " Get your shot and get your ass back in the classroom and teach.", "But the front line workers...", " The lady writing the principal about a teacher having her "bratty" daughter in the background while teaching like teacher's do not have kids. " Well, then just leave. We will hire somebody off the street who can do a full day's work for less than these entitled overpayed teachers" All of these things and more were said. They were mean. Hurtful. Unwarranted. I could feel the hate seething from these posts. You can go search the threads if you want to. So, the teacher's left. They did NOT forget. Now you want to sing a different tune after having your life upended by Omicron in January. Now, suddenly you are worried about your kid having to double up with other teacher's classes and worried about a shortage which means your precious snowflake will be in a class double the size next year. These teacher's are leaving the profession or workplace. Some are married to high earners and have opted to stay home with you know, their children. Those little creatures they love so much. They are not coming back ever.

I remember these comments. Most of the comments came from "Karens" and the rabid in-person-at-all-costs crowd (Central Office, bosses that wanted their employees back to work, people worried about losing their home and needed school to be their daycare, etc.).

I agree that teacher's can't win. They need supports as much as the children do.

The 1+ year of virtual is at the heart of a lot of this. Blame whoever made that jack*ss decision.

The only jack*sses are the ones in charge who are pointing fingers instead of solving problems.

The board was all-or-nothing (no hybrid; only remote or in-person with no options in-between). CO had no plan to deal with spikes once back in school. The federal covid money was supposed to help teachers, be spent on classrooms, make schools safer, provide supports for the children and help fund supports to help those kids that ran wild. Instead the covid money was spent on discrimination training, bocce ball, kid museum. It's sad. Now the teachers are leaving. CO and board blame the parents. Parents will complain even more to the teachers. The teachers resent the parents and children they're supposed to teach.

MCPS needs to get back to basics. If there aren't enough teachers, then the CO needs to shut down and staff open positions. Maybe then they'll cut out the games and pocket-lining to get serious about supporting classrooms.

Yes, they kept us safe during a difficult time. I know some people want to pretend it wasn't a big deal but over a million Americans have died so they were clearly wrong.

Sure, a few Uberkerens were upset because having kids home cramped their style but these tough choices kept the spread down and saved many lives.

You surely have some evidence to back that up right? Plenty of schools were open across the country, at least hybrid, in fall 2020. Why don't you compare the death rate in MoCo with other districts in the northeast that prioritized education and had similar community masking and other mitigation measures in place. Let us know what you find.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember 2020 and 2021 like yesterday. I remember reading " lazy teachers playing games on zoom for 3 hours with kids while collecting a check.", "They owe us money for the time they took away from our children as we pay their salaries.", "They are too concerned about COVID to consider the harm they are doing to our child.", " Get your shot and get your ass back in the classroom and teach.", "But the front line workers...", " The lady writing the principal about a teacher having her "bratty" daughter in the background while teaching like teacher's do not have kids. " Well, then just leave. We will hire somebody off the street who can do a full day's work for less than these entitled overpayed teachers" All of these things and more were said. They were mean. Hurtful. Unwarranted. I could feel the hate seething from these posts. You can go search the threads if you want to. So, the teacher's left. They did NOT forget. Now you want to sing a different tune after having your life upended by Omicron in January. Now, suddenly you are worried about your kid having to double up with other teacher's classes and worried about a shortage which means your precious snowflake will be in a class double the size next year. These teacher's are leaving the profession or workplace. Some are married to high earners and have opted to stay home with you know, their children. Those little creatures they love so much. They are not coming back ever.

I remember these comments. Most of the comments came from "Karens" and the rabid in-person-at-all-costs crowd (Central Office, bosses that wanted their employees back to work, people worried about losing their home and needed school to be their daycare, etc.).

I agree that teacher's can't win. They need supports as much as the children do.

The 1+ year of virtual is at the heart of a lot of this. Blame whoever made that jack*ss decision.

The only jack*sses are the ones in charge who are pointing fingers instead of solving problems.

The board was all-or-nothing (no hybrid; only remote or in-person with no options in-between). CO had no plan to deal with spikes once back in school. The federal covid money was supposed to help teachers, be spent on classrooms, make schools safer, provide supports for the children and help fund supports to help those kids that ran wild. Instead the covid money was spent on discrimination training, bocce ball, kid museum. It's sad. Now the teachers are leaving. CO and board blame the parents. Parents will complain even more to the teachers. The teachers resent the parents and children they're supposed to teach.

MCPS needs to get back to basics. If there aren't enough teachers, then the CO needs to shut down and staff open positions. Maybe then they'll cut out the games and pocket-lining to get serious about supporting classrooms.

Yes, they kept us safe during a difficult time. I know some people want to pretend it wasn't a big deal but over a million Americans have died so they were clearly wrong.

Sure, a few Uberkerens were upset because having kids home cramped their style but these tough choices kept the spread down and saved many lives.

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Anonymous wrote:I work at one of the schools with very few active parents. The majority of my parents are very friendly and appreciative but speak very little English. For other students, I have no contact with their parents.

There are not many schools in the county with very active parents- though those parents are way more likely to be on DCUM and friends with those on DCUM. I can see those parents being frustrating, but that is just not my reality or the reality of anyone who works in my cluster (Seneca Valley). However, that doesn't represent the majority of county schools.

Like a PP, we don't actually talk about the superintendent much, but we do talk over and over again about how far Montgomery county has fallen. How there are no academic expectations. How there are no behavioral expectations. How the schools aren't safe. How there are no substitutes. How we feel like we can't teach anymore. How we are all miserable.

Although these are themes we are seeing around the country, we had hoped that a new superintendent would come in with suggestions. I think that is the part that is so hard. All we are hearing is how it will get worse before it gets better. We already know that there will be more unfilled teacher openings. We are also not hearing that there will be any plan to make discipline in schools a priority. Things like that.

I think that is why there is so much negativity. Everyone wants hope and currently there is no hope in the county.

We very much want to be active but our PTA president is the ultimate mean girl along with her friends and either doesn’t respond or refuses help so no good way to participate. MCCPTA and the school admin are equally cliquey and supports her behavior. Tired of people complaining about the lack of volunteers when some of us try and get shut out.

I’ll tell you like I tell kids… this is an excuse, a cop out. If you and a bunch of people really want to volunteer for PTA and can’t then form your own group or booster and do just that. Volunteer aline directly w/ the school to help in any teacher’s classroom, or to serve as a general school floater to make copies and run errands or just watch someone class so they can go to the bathroom. Better yet, elections come up every year or two, run against the “mean girl” or vote them out for someone else. MCCPTA has dozens of open positions on the board and need for chairs of things.

I agree that no one wants to have mean girl president, but if you really want to do something, she shouldn’t be what holds you back.

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Anonymous wrote:I work at one of the schools with very few active parents. The majority of my parents are very friendly and appreciative but speak very little English. For other students, I have no contact with their parents.

There are not many schools in the county with very active parents- though those parents are way more likely to be on DCUM and friends with those on DCUM. I can see those parents being frustrating, but that is just not my reality or the reality of anyone who works in my cluster (Seneca Valley). However, that doesn't represent the majority of county schools.

Like a PP, we don't actually talk about the superintendent much, but we do talk over and over again about how far Montgomery county has fallen. How there are no academic expectations. How there are no behavioral expectations. How the schools aren't safe. How there are no substitutes. How we feel like we can't teach anymore. How we are all miserable.

Although these are themes we are seeing around the country, we had hoped that a new superintendent would come in with suggestions. I think that is the part that is so hard. All we are hearing is how it will get worse before it gets better. We already know that there will be more unfilled teacher openings. We are also not hearing that there will be any plan to make discipline in schools a priority. Things like that.

I think that is why there is so much negativity. Everyone wants hope and currently there is no hope in the county.

We very much want to be active but our PTA president is the ultimate mean girl along with her friends and either doesn’t respond or refuses help so no good way to participate. MCCPTA and the school admin are equally cliquey and supports her behavior. Tired of people complaining about the lack of volunteers when some of us try and get shut out.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember 2020 and 2021 like yesterday. I remember reading " lazy teachers playing games on zoom for 3 hours with kids while collecting a check.", "They owe us money for the time they took away from our children as we pay their salaries.", "They are too concerned about COVID to consider the harm they are doing to our child.", " Get your shot and get your ass back in the classroom and teach.", "But the front line workers...", " The lady writing the principal about a teacher having her "bratty" daughter in the background while teaching like teacher's do not have kids. " Well, then just leave. We will hire somebody off the street who can do a full day's work for less than these entitled overpayed teachers" All of these things and more were said. They were mean. Hurtful. Unwarranted. I could feel the hate seething from these posts. You can go search the threads if you want to. So, the teacher's left. They did NOT forget. Now you want to sing a different tune after having your life upended by Omicron in January. Now, suddenly you are worried about your kid having to double up with other teacher's classes and worried about a shortage which means your precious snowflake will be in a class double the size next year. These teacher's are leaving the profession or workplace. Some are married to high earners and have opted to stay home with you know, their children. Those little creatures they love so much. They are not coming back ever.

I remember these comments. Most of the comments came from "Karens" and the rabid in-person-at-all-costs crowd (Central Office, bosses that wanted their employees back to work, people worried about losing their home and needed school to be their daycare, etc.).

I agree that teacher's can't win. They need supports as much as the children do.

The 1+ year of virtual is at the heart of a lot of this. Blame whoever made that jack*ss decision.

The only jack*sses are the ones in charge who are pointing fingers instead of solving problems.

The board was all-or-nothing (no hybrid; only remote or in-person with no options in-between). CO had no plan to deal with spikes once back in school. The federal covid money was supposed to help teachers, be spent on classrooms, make schools safer, provide supports for the children and help fund supports to help those kids that ran wild. Instead the covid money was spent on discrimination training, bocce ball, kid museum. It's sad. Now the teachers are leaving. CO and board blame the parents. Parents will complain even more to the teachers. The teachers resent the parents and children they're supposed to teach.

MCPS needs to get back to basics. If there aren't enough teachers, then the CO needs to shut down and staff open positions. Maybe then they'll cut out the games and pocket-lining to get serious about supporting classrooms.

Yes, they kept us safe during a difficult time. I know some people want to pretend it wasn't a big deal but over a million Americans have died so they were clearly wrong.

Sure, a few Uberkerens were upset because having kids home cramped their style but these tough choices kept the spread down and saved many lives.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember 2020 and 2021 like yesterday. I remember reading " lazy teachers playing games on zoom for 3 hours with kids while collecting a check.", "They owe us money for the time they took away from our children as we pay their salaries.", "They are too concerned about COVID to consider the harm they are doing to our child.", " Get your shot and get your ass back in the classroom and teach.", "But the front line workers...", " The lady writing the principal about a teacher having her "bratty" daughter in the background while teaching like teacher's do not have kids. " Well, then just leave. We will hire somebody off the street who can do a full day's work for less than these entitled overpayed teachers" All of these things and more were said. They were mean. Hurtful. Unwarranted. I could feel the hate seething from these posts. You can go search the threads if you want to. So, the teacher's left. They did NOT forget. Now you want to sing a different tune after having your life upended by Omicron in January. Now, suddenly you are worried about your kid having to double up with other teacher's classes and worried about a shortage which means your precious snowflake will be in a class double the size next year. These teacher's are leaving the profession or workplace. Some are married to high earners and have opted to stay home with you know, their children. Those little creatures they love so much. They are not coming back ever.

I remember these comments. Most of the comments came from "Karens" and the rabid in-person-at-all-costs crowd (Central Office, bosses that wanted their employees back to work, people worried about losing their home and needed school to be their daycare, etc.).

I agree that teacher's can't win. They need supports as much as the children do.

The 1+ year of virtual is at the heart of a lot of this. Blame whoever made that jack*ss decision.

The only jack*sses are the ones in charge who are pointing fingers instead of solving problems.

The board was all-or-nothing (no hybrid; only remote or in-person with no options in-between). CO had no plan to deal with spikes once back in school. The federal covid money was supposed to help teachers, be spent on classrooms, make schools safer, provide supports for the children and help fund supports to help those kids that ran wild. Instead the covid money was spent on discrimination training, bocce ball, kid museum. It's sad. Now the teachers are leaving. CO and board blame the parents. Parents will complain even more to the teachers. The teachers resent the parents and children they're supposed to teach.

MCPS needs to get back to basics. If there aren't enough teachers, then the CO needs to shut down and staff open positions. Maybe then they'll cut out the games and pocket-lining to get serious about supporting classrooms.

Yes, they kept us safe during a difficult time. I know some people want to pretend it wasn't a big deal but over a million Americans have died so they were clearly wrong.

Sure, a few Uberkerens were upset because having kids home cramped their style but these tough choices kept the spread down and saved many lives.

A 1+ of virtual was wrong. Brought on by the lack of MCPS leadership and cheered on by the Whiny SAHM Brigade here. They failed the kids, and now you see the results.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember 2020 and 2021 like yesterday. I remember reading " lazy teachers playing games on zoom for 3 hours with kids while collecting a check.", "They owe us money for the time they took away from our children as we pay their salaries.", "They are too concerned about COVID to consider the harm they are doing to our child.", " Get your shot and get your ass back in the classroom and teach.", "But the front line workers...", " The lady writing the principal about a teacher having her "bratty" daughter in the background while teaching like teacher's do not have kids. " Well, then just leave. We will hire somebody off the street who can do a full day's work for less than these entitled overpayed teachers" All of these things and more were said. They were mean. Hurtful. Unwarranted. I could feel the hate seething from these posts. You can go search the threads if you want to. So, the teacher's left. They did NOT forget. Now you want to sing a different tune after having your life upended by Omicron in January. Now, suddenly you are worried about your kid having to double up with other teacher's classes and worried about a shortage which means your precious snowflake will be in a class double the size next year. These teacher's are leaving the profession or workplace. Some are married to high earners and have opted to stay home with you know, their children. Those little creatures they love so much. They are not coming back ever.

I remember these comments. Most of the comments came from "Karens" and the rabid in-person-at-all-costs crowd (Central Office, bosses that wanted their employees back to work, people worried about losing their home and needed school to be their daycare, etc.).

I agree that teacher's can't win. They need supports as much as the children do.

The 1+ year of virtual is at the heart of a lot of this. Blame whoever made that jack*ss decision.

The only jack*sses are the ones in charge who are pointing fingers instead of solving problems.

The board was all-or-nothing (no hybrid; only remote or in-person with no options in-between). CO had no plan to deal with spikes once back in school. The federal covid money was supposed to help teachers, be spent on classrooms, make schools safer, provide supports for the children and help fund supports to help those kids that ran wild. Instead the covid money was spent on discrimination training, bocce ball, kid museum. It's sad. Now the teachers are leaving. CO and board blame the parents. Parents will complain even more to the teachers. The teachers resent the parents and children they're supposed to teach.

MCPS needs to get back to basics. If there aren't enough teachers, then the CO needs to shut down and staff open positions. Maybe then they'll cut out the games and pocket-lining to get serious about supporting classrooms.

Yes, they kept us safe during a difficult time. I know some people want to pretend it wasn't a big deal but over a million Americans have died so they were clearly wrong.

Sure, a few Uberkerens were upset because having kids home cramped their style but these tough choices kept the spread down and saved many lives.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember 2020 and 2021 like yesterday. I remember reading " lazy teachers playing games on zoom for 3 hours with kids while collecting a check.", "They owe us money for the time they took away from our children as we pay their salaries.", "They are too concerned about COVID to consider the harm they are doing to our child.", " Get your shot and get your ass back in the classroom and teach.", "But the front line workers...", " The lady writing the principal about a teacher having her "bratty" daughter in the background while teaching like teacher's do not have kids. " Well, then just leave. We will hire somebody off the street who can do a full day's work for less than these entitled overpayed teachers" All of these things and more were said. They were mean. Hurtful. Unwarranted. I could feel the hate seething from these posts. You can go search the threads if you want to. So, the teacher's left. They did NOT forget. Now you want to sing a different tune after having your life upended by Omicron in January. Now, suddenly you are worried about your kid having to double up with other teacher's classes and worried about a shortage which means your precious snowflake will be in a class double the size next year. These teacher's are leaving the profession or workplace. Some are married to high earners and have opted to stay home with you know, their children. Those little creatures they love so much. They are not coming back ever.

I remember these comments. Most of the comments came from "Karens" and the rabid in-person-at-all-costs crowd (Central Office, bosses that wanted their employees back to work, people worried about losing their home and needed school to be their daycare, etc.).

I agree that teacher's can't win. They need supports as much as the children do.

The 1+ year of virtual is at the heart of a lot of this. Blame whoever made that jack*ss decision.

The only jack*sses are the ones in charge who are pointing fingers instead of solving problems.

The board was all-or-nothing (no hybrid; only remote or in-person with no options in-between). CO had no plan to deal with spikes once back in school. The federal covid money was supposed to help teachers, be spent on classrooms, make schools safer, provide supports for the children and help fund supports to help those kids that ran wild. Instead the covid money was spent on discrimination training, bocce ball, kid museum. It's sad. Now the teachers are leaving. CO and board blame the parents. Parents will complain even more to the teachers. The teachers resent the parents and children they're supposed to teach.

MCPS needs to get back to basics. If there aren't enough teachers, then the CO needs to shut down and staff open positions. Maybe then they'll cut out the games and pocket-lining to get serious about supporting classrooms.

Yes, they kept us safe during a difficult time. I know some people want to pretend it wasn't a big deal but over a million Americans have died so they were clearly wrong.

Sure, a few Uberkerens were upset because having kids home cramped their style but these tough choices kept the spread down and saved many lives.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember 2020 and 2021 like yesterday. I remember reading " lazy teachers playing games on zoom for 3 hours with kids while collecting a check.", "They owe us money for the time they took away from our children as we pay their salaries.", "They are too concerned about COVID to consider the harm they are doing to our child.", " Get your shot and get your ass back in the classroom and teach.", "But the front line workers...", " The lady writing the principal about a teacher having her "bratty" daughter in the background while teaching like teacher's do not have kids. " Well, then just leave. We will hire somebody off the street who can do a full day's work for less than these entitled overpayed teachers" All of these things and more were said. They were mean. Hurtful. Unwarranted. I could feel the hate seething from these posts. You can go search the threads if you want to. So, the teacher's left. They did NOT forget. Now you want to sing a different tune after having your life upended by Omicron in January. Now, suddenly you are worried about your kid having to double up with other teacher's classes and worried about a shortage which means your precious snowflake will be in a class double the size next year. These teacher's are leaving the profession or workplace. Some are married to high earners and have opted to stay home with you know, their children. Those little creatures they love so much. They are not coming back ever.

I remember these comments. Most of the comments came from "Karens" and the rabid in-person-at-all-costs crowd (Central Office, bosses that wanted their employees back to work, people worried about losing their home and needed school to be their daycare, etc.).

I agree that teacher's can't win. They need supports as much as the children do.

The 1+ year of virtual is at the heart of a lot of this. Blame whoever made that jack*ss decision.

The only jack*sses are the ones in charge who are pointing fingers instead of solving problems.

The board was all-or-nothing (no hybrid; only remote or in-person with no options in-between). CO had no plan to deal with spikes once back in school. The federal covid money was supposed to help teachers, be spent on classrooms, make schools safer, provide supports for the children and help fund supports to help those kids that ran wild. Instead the covid money was spent on discrimination training, bocce ball, kid museum. It's sad. Now the teachers are leaving. CO and board blame the parents. Parents will complain even more to the teachers. The teachers resent the parents and children they're supposed to teach.

MCPS needs to get back to basics. If there aren't enough teachers, then the CO needs to shut down and staff open positions. Maybe then they'll cut out the games and pocket-lining to get serious about supporting classrooms.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember 2020 and 2021 like yesterday. I remember reading " lazy teachers playing games on zoom for 3 hours with kids while collecting a check.", "They owe us money for the time they took away from our children as we pay their salaries.", "They are too concerned about COVID to consider the harm they are doing to our child.", " Get your shot and get your ass back in the classroom and teach.", "But the front line workers...", " The lady writing the principal about a teacher having her "bratty" daughter in the background while teaching like teacher's do not have kids. " Well, then just leave. We will hire somebody off the street who can do a full day's work for less than these entitled overpayed teachers" All of these things and more were said. They were mean. Hurtful. Unwarranted. I could feel the hate seething from these posts. You can go search the threads if you want to. So, the teacher's left. They did NOT forget. Now you want to sing a different tune after having your life upended by Omicron in January. Now, suddenly you are worried about your kid having to double up with other teacher's classes and worried about a shortage which means your precious snowflake will be in a class double the size next year. These teacher's are leaving the profession or workplace. Some are married to high earners and have opted to stay home with you know, their children. Those little creatures they love so much. They are not coming back ever.

I remember these comments. Most of the comments came from "Karens" and the rabid in-person-at-all-costs crowd (Central Office, bosses that wanted their employees back to work, people worried about losing their home and needed school to be their daycare, etc.).

I agree that teacher's can't win. They need supports as much as the children do.

The 1+ year of virtual is at the heart of a lot of this. Blame whoever made that jack*ss decision.