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Anonymous wrote:Are you ladies aware of some significant push from African or Asian countries to immigrate to Ukraine or Poland? The weather is too cold, the countries are not rich enough to lure the masses with social benefits. What are they to do, to become more diverse for DCUMs liking?

'Diversity' is the magic word in the United States, but do realize - in many places of the world, the lack of diversity is actually a sign of no colonial past, which, I would say, is not something to hold against a country.

When you come down from whatever meds you’re abusing, try reading the thread. We know you really hate diversity and never miss a chance to rant about it, but you sound positively crazy thrashing at points no one has made.

A pp literally said "The fact that their demographics are overwhelmingly white should indicate that their immigration policies are aimed at keeping their country white." Completely ignoring Ukranian history which, as pp pointed out, does not include colonialism or a slave trade. It's incredibly American-centric to expect every European country to match the demographics of the US.

Americans are so brainwashed about diversity and have zero understanding of European history.

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If 2 brothers are fighting over their farmlands, don't go supporting one when you don't live near them. You don't know what issues they have with each other, they are brothers who grew up together after all. Their neighbors or their extended families can help them sort it out. You don't want one of them to be mad at you and come destroy your property or your family. Stay away.

This is the comparison you came up with and are apparently proud of, while one of the largest armies in the world is bombing civilians in an independent country they have attacked, violating several international treaties?

Yes, because that is what my ES kids would understand when I explain why the US didn't do anything further, so F your pompous self. Also yes, I am selfish because I want my kids to live in peace. That does not mean that I don't feel bad for Ukraine, or also feel bad for those Russian people who don't want this.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you ladies aware of some significant push from African or Asian countries to immigrate to Ukraine or Poland? The weather is too cold, the countries are not rich enough to lure the masses with social benefits. What are they to do, to become more diverse for DCUMs liking?

'Diversity' is the magic word in the United States, but do realize - in many places of the world, the lack of diversity is actually a sign of no colonial past, which, I would say, is not something to hold against a country.

When you come down from whatever meds you’re abusing, try reading the thread. We know you really hate diversity and never miss a chance to rant about it, but you sound positively crazy thrashing at points no one has made.

A pp literally said "The fact that their demographics are overwhelmingly white should indicate that their immigration policies are aimed at keeping their country white." Completely ignoring Ukranian history which, as pp pointed out, does not include colonialism or a slave trade. It's incredibly American-centric to expect every European country to match the demographics of the US.

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If 2 brothers are fighting over their farmlands, don't go supporting one when you don't live near them. You don't know what issues they have with each other, they are brothers who grew up together after all. Their neighbors or their extended families can help them sort it out. You don't want one of them to be mad at you and come destroy your property or your family. Stay away.

This is the comparison you came up with and are apparently proud of, while one of the largest armies in the world is bombing civilians in an independent country they have attacked, violating several international treaties?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, neo-Nazis are have so much popular support in Ukraine that they elected a Jewish president. Makes total sense, in the mind of a propagandist.

I knew one of you simpletons would bring this up.

The Ukrainian people had a choice between keeping a well-hated billionaire, Poroshenko, who had imposed a series of extremely unpopular reforms VERSUS casting a backlash vote in favor of a famous actor who promised to undo all of Poroshenko’s reforms. Choosing Zelensky was not an endorsement of Jewishness or a reflection of some cosmopolitan urge on the part of the people. It was literally the only way to dislodge Poroshenko and literally every commentator at the time understood Zelensky’s win as a backlash vote. Zelensky himself recognized that.

Ukraine is a country in which only one president has ever won reelection. They literally throw the president out after one term as a matter of habit.

The degree to which Neo-Nazis have a hold on the country is demonstrated by Zelensky’s refusal to challenge them. The Azov brigade is just the most famous of hundreds of white supremacist militias that terrorize Ukraine’s streets, beating Jews, foreign students, gays and leftist protesters. Neo-Nazis fill the armed forces to such a degree that, if Zelensky does not play nice with them, they will purge him. I did all your googling for you in my first post, so you get on Google now and confirm all this for yourself.

You would know all this if you had ever heard of Ukraine before this war started a few days ago. People who cannot even find Ukraine on a map or spell Zelensky are now opining as foreign relations experts. Typical.

If 2 brothers are fighting over their farmlands, don't go supporting one when you don't live near them. You don't know what issues they have with each other, they are brothers who grew up together after all. Their neighbors or their extended families can help them sort it out. You don't want one of them to be mad at you and come destroy your property or your family. Stay away.

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Anonymous wrote:How typical of Americans to struggle mightily with critical thinking. Here, let me help you all out.

1. Ukraine has a massive Neo-Nazi and white supremacist problem. Neo-Nazis and white supremacists fill its armed forces and legislature. They have popular support. It is a long-standing and has been well documented and anyone pretending otherwise is either ill-informed (and needs to shut up) or a propaganda-disseminating troll.

Excellent write-up of the issue from today: https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment

The NY Times from four days ago: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/world/europe/militias-russia-ukraine.html

The Nation in 2019: https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/tnamp/

Guardian in 2014: https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis


2. America and the EU are denying Ukraine‘s Neo-Nazi problem because it does not dovetail with their deification of Zelensky and Ukraine. They’re probably also concerned that people like those posting in this thread cannot comprehend that it is possible for bad people to exist on both sides of an issue. So, they have simplified the situation into goodies versus baddies for the TV watchers who cannot handle reality.

3. Russia, too, has a massive problem with Neo-Nazis and white supremacists. A significant portion of Russia’s arm forces too consists of white supremacists. Putin is a monster.

4. In conclusion, white supremacists are about to fight each other. One set of white supremacists (Russians) illegally invaded another set of white supremacists’ country (Ukraine). One set of white supremacists (Russia) is also a much bigger threat to the west than the other set of white supremacists (Ukraine). So, the West supports Ukraine. The end.

THIS. This is exactly what it is and while I try to help with aid for the refugees, and support certain sanctions, I will not want to arm, send soldiers or propagandize for them either. Americans really need to learn how to tread the middle path.

Anonymous wrote:How typical of Americans to struggle mightily with critical thinking. Here, let me help you all out.

1. Ukraine has a massive Neo-Nazi and white supremacist problem. Neo-Nazis and white supremacists fill its armed forces and legislature. They have popular support. It is a long-standing and has been well documented and anyone pretending otherwise is either ill-informed (and needs to shut up) or a propaganda-disseminating troll.

Excellent write-up of the issue from today: https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment

The NY Times from four days ago: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/world/europe/militias-russia-ukraine.html

The Nation in 2019: https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/tnamp/

Guardian in 2014: https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis


2. America and the EU are denying Ukraine‘s Neo-Nazi problem because it does not dovetail with their deification of Zelensky and Ukraine. They’re probably also concerned that people like those posting in this thread cannot comprehend that it is possible for bad people to exist on both sides of an issue. So, they have simplified the situation into goodies versus baddies for the TV watchers who cannot handle reality.

3. Russia, too, has a massive problem with Neo-Nazis and white supremacists. A significant portion of Russia’s arm forces too consists of white supremacists. Putin is a monster.

4. In conclusion, white supremacists are about to fight each other. One set of white supremacists (Russians) illegally invaded another set of white supremacists’ country (Ukraine). One set of white supremacists (Russia) is also a much bigger threat to the west than the other set of white supremacists (Ukraine). So, the West supports Ukraine. The end.

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Anonymous wrote:What country in the world does not have some element of fanatical hate? It's a fundamental problem with humans. That doesn't mean we can use that as an excuse to start wars.

This thread is funny. You people have gone from denying that Ukraine has a Neo-Nazi problem to justifying it now that the facts have been spelled out with evidence you can’t dispute. At least pretend to have some sense of morals and decency.

“Er, um, any allegation that Neo-Nazis have a strong presence in Ukraine is a Russian disinformation talking point from the pits of hell…but also this Neo-Nazi problem Ukraine doesn’t have is completely justified!” 🤡 🤡 🤡

The US has a neo-Nazi problem. Should it be invaded by Canada?

I told myself to stay away from this thread yesterday evening but am lured back by the ignorance here. No one is justifying Putin invading Ukraine, but there are several of us calling out the racism at the borders when there is a war going on, and saying there are bad apples everywhere. Is it that difficult to accept? I bet this is one ignorant person who chooses to read what she wants and is harping on with no valid points. Your post is so idiotic. I doubt you realize how stupid you sound.

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The end of that tweet, which is cut off on this page, says that "under Martial Law, if you miss instructions, you will run into issues. If you are given an exit and go to the wrong exit, chances are you will have to wait your turn."

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Anonymous wrote:Are you ladies aware of some significant push from African or Asian countries to immigrate to Ukraine or Poland? The weather is too cold, the countries are not rich enough to lure the masses with social benefits. What are they to do, to become more diverse for DCUMs liking?

'Diversity' is the magic word in the United States, but do realize - in many places of the world, the lack of diversity is actually a sign of no colonial past, which, I would say, is not something to hold against a country.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you ladies aware of some significant push from African or Asian countries to immigrate to Ukraine or Poland? The weather is too cold, the countries are not rich enough to lure the masses with social benefits. What are they to do, to become more diverse for DCUMs liking?

'Diversity' is the magic word in the United States, but do realize - in many places of the world, the lack of diversity is actually a sign of no colonial past, which, I would say, is not something to hold against a country.

When you come down from whatever meds you’re abusing, try reading the thread. We know you really hate diversity and never miss a chance to rant about it, but you sound positively crazy thrashing at points no one has made.