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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.

They made dumb decisions about where to live. They chose to live in the middle of nowhere, rather than in a city with access to transit options or bike usage. Their making stupid choices about where they live and being dependent on gasoline in order to get to anywhere isn’t my problem. As for farmers, same question applies - why did they pick a farm out in the middle of nowhere? Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Blue-voting midwesterner here. Your comments are extremely ignorant and insulting. You really think everyone in America should pile into the coastal big cities? You can’t think of any reason for people to want/need to live elsewhere? Did you know that the entire midwest is not exactly the middle of nowhere? I live in Kansas City. Not exactly in the middle of nowhere. Yes, our public transit is severely lacking, and I would love to see that change. I’ve been involved in groups looking for solutions, but a practical solution for this city has simply not been found. But my entire life does not hinge on public transit or walkable stores. I do my best to reduce my carbon footprint.

Yes, I know people in the midwest who have to travel 30 miles to grocery shop. But they typically only have to go once every two weeks. They live quite sustainable lives otherwise, and I would love to see your carbon footprint compared to theirs.

I don’t think you understand how massive the carbon footprint is of a fat midwesterner living in a sfh

Even if they had the same sq ft but lived in a multi family in a walkable neighborhood, carbon footprint is massively smaller.

It'll be hilarious watching all you city dwellers and super urban livers cry uncle when food prices skyrocket. Fossil fuel prices significantly impact food prices because fossil fuels are used to make fertilizer. Cities in the US don't have the land to grow enough food for millions of people.

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.

They made dumb decisions about where to live. They chose to live in the middle of nowhere, rather than in a city with access to transit options or bike usage. Their making stupid choices about where they live and being dependent on gasoline in order to get to anywhere isn’t my problem. As for farmers, same question applies - why did they pick a farm out in the middle of nowhere? Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Blue-voting midwesterner here. Your comments are extremely ignorant and insulting. You really think everyone in America should pile into the coastal big cities? You can’t think of any reason for people to want/need to live elsewhere? Did you know that the entire midwest is not exactly the middle of nowhere? I live in Kansas City. Not exactly in the middle of nowhere. Yes, our public transit is severely lacking, and I would love to see that change. I’ve been involved in groups looking for solutions, but a practical solution for this city has simply not been found. But my entire life does not hinge on public transit or walkable stores. I do my best to reduce my carbon footprint.

Yes, I know people in the midwest who have to travel 30 miles to grocery shop. But they typically only have to go once every two weeks. They live quite sustainable lives otherwise, and I would love to see your carbon footprint compared to theirs.

I don’t think you understand how massive the carbon footprint is of a fat midwesterner living in a sfh

Even if they had the same sq ft but lived in a multi family in a walkable neighborhood, carbon footprint is massively smaller.

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of Americans are going to get sticker shock this summer at their election choices. But hey, at least we don’t have been tweets

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Except all.of the crap you buy at target needs to be shipped and transported. All of your food needs to be transported. It will make food prices skyrocket.

What an idiot living in a bubble you are. Hundreds of millions of people do not live in cities either.

I am literally shaking right now- is this the tone you use with your wife? You sound like a bully

Seriously? How can an adult be this fragile? Seriously you need to see a therapist. Also, just to be clear, I’m a woman, I’m a Democrat, I believe in civil discourse but I also have a spine and don’t cower when someone speaks harshly to me. Your reaction is more shocking than the comment imo.

Well you're int he wrong group. The democrats and liberals left civility and discourse behind when Bush took office in 2000

Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of Americans are going to get sticker shock this summer at their election choices. But hey, at least we don’t have been tweets

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Anonymous wrote:I predict 6 dollars minimum. This is going to hurt everyone. As people will start feeling it at the grocery stores and stuff as the transportation cost will skyrocket.

Already 4 bucks in some places here.

Yep. Just gassed up & it's over $4 for the cheap stuff. Winter's not over & the oil tank needs filling. That is going to hurt.

Anonymous wrote:I predict 6 dollars minimum. This is going to hurt everyone. As people will start feeling it at the grocery stores and stuff as the transportation cost will skyrocket.

Already 4 bucks in some places here.

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.

They made dumb decisions about where to live. They chose to live in the middle of nowhere, rather than in a city with access to transit options or bike usage. Their making stupid choices about where they live and being dependent on gasoline in order to get to anywhere isn’t my problem. As for farmers, same question applies - why did they pick a farm out in the middle of nowhere? Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Blue-voting midwesterner here. Your comments are extremely ignorant and insulting. You really think everyone in America should pile into the coastal big cities? You can’t think of any reason for people to want/need to live elsewhere? Did you know that the entire midwest is not exactly the middle of nowhere? I live in Kansas City. Not exactly in the middle of nowhere. Yes, our public transit is severely lacking, and I would love to see that change. I’ve been involved in groups looking for solutions, but a practical solution for this city has simply not been found. But my entire life does not hinge on public transit or walkable stores. I do my best to reduce my carbon footprint.

Yes, I know people in the midwest who have to travel 30 miles to grocery shop. But they typically only have to go once every two weeks. They live quite sustainable lives otherwise, and I would love to see your carbon footprint compared to theirs.

I don’t think you understand how massive the carbon footprint is of a fat midwesterner living in a sfh

Even if they had the same sq ft but lived in a multi family in a walkable neighborhood, carbon footprint is massively smaller.

Your viewpoint is very limited. How do you not realize that it is not feasible for everyone to live in a walkable sky rise? We tried REALLY hard to make it happen. We couldn’t make it work. Just a few of the factors for us…schools, affordability, aging parents nearby, jobs. Not everyone has the same set of circumstances. Maybe stop flying over and try meeting people who don’t live exactly like you.

I get that lots of people have fully bought in to the myth that living out in the country makes you a rugged individualist and inherently more virtuous than a cosmopolitan apartment-dweller, but it's high time that we stop pretending that their lifestyle isn't vastly more destructive than the city-dweller's.

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Except all.of the crap you buy at target needs to be shipped and transported. All of your food needs to be transported. It will make food prices skyrocket.

What an idiot living in a bubble you are. Hundreds of millions of people do not live in cities either.

I am literally shaking right now- is this the tone you use with your wife? You sound like a bully

Seriously? How can an adult be this fragile? Seriously you need to see a therapist. Also, just to be clear, I’m a woman, I’m a Democrat, I believe in civil discourse but I also have a spine and don’t cower when someone speaks harshly to me. Your reaction is more shocking than the comment imo.