Anonymous
Post 07/23/2022 21:29     Subject: Ozark season 4 is out today!
I was really hoping Marty and Ruth ended up truly equal business partners, running either the Byrde empire or the cartel together. (To get there, maybe Camilla would have had Wendy killed and someone in the cartel would have offed Camilla, leaving Marty and Ruth as the last two standing …. )
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2022 13:52     Subject: Re:Ozark season 4 is out today!
I just finished this series after bingewatching the whole thing the past month. Very upset that they killed Ruth off, but I thought the final ending was good. The small smiles on Wendy and Marty's faces when they saw Jonah come out with the gun.

The thing that I had trouble with was the fact that Ruth was way too smart to have gotten out of her car when she saw the black SUV in her driveway. It just wasn't her character to naively get out of the car, walk over to the SUV and say hello. She would've seen that vehicle and fled in my opinion. Plus she knew the territory much better than they did. I just couldn't believe she stuck around. When they were face to face I envisioned one of Omar's hitmen taking out Camila before she could shoot Ruth. Oh well!
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2022 08:52     Subject: Ozark season 4 is out today!
Anonymous wrote:Ruth should have figured out how to outsmart everyone, Camilla and Wendy kill each other, and Marty and the kids escape or go into protective custody. Boom.


I like the Camilla and Wendy kill each other angle, and Ruth surviving. But, I would have had Marty be an evil mastermind all along and take over the cartel with Jonah and Ruth his right hand deputies. Then he orders a hit and takes out all the head FBI folks. Final scene is him sitting on his cartel throne making a deal with Purdue pharma for heroin shipments.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2022 18:07     Subject: Ozark season 4 is out today!
Ruth should have figured out how to outsmart everyone, Camilla and Wendy kill each other, and Marty and the kids escape or go into protective custody. Boom.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2022 13:19     Subject: Ozark season 4 is out today!
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I would have liked it to end with Ruth in her new big house looking out over the pool and her lake and smiling at all she ended up with.


When I watched it I wondered if the Byrdes did die in that car accident and everything after was Marty's hallucination. The season started and essentially ended with the car crash. Everything after that went so perfectly for them. Sure, they seemed upset about Ruth, but like all the other deaths they'd put it behind them and move on. In my mind, it does end with Ruth at her new house!


This would have been an amazing twist


+1. This would have been epic.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2022 13:17     Subject: Ozark season 4 is out today!
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I would have liked it to end with Ruth in her new big house looking out over the pool and her lake and smiling at all she ended up with.


When I watched it I wondered if the Byrdes did die in that car accident and everything after was Marty's hallucination. The season started and essentially ended with the car crash. Everything after that went so perfectly for them. Sure, they seemed upset about Ruth, but like all the other deaths they'd put it behind them and move on. In my mind, it does end with Ruth at her new house!


This would have been an amazing twist


Could have pulled a Lost; Ozark is purgatory and actually the cartel killed Marty and the whole family along with everyone else in the first episode.


Nah, we’re all tired of the dead people thing.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2022 13:15     Subject: Re:Ozark season 4 is out today!
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Anonymous wrote:I just finished the last episode. I wasn't happy but I was satisfied I guess.

I agree that all the Wendy and Marty maneuvering was over the top, but I feel like it was symbolic of their fate - they will always have to be one step ahead and looking over their shoulder.

Ruth - I'll be the outlier, but Ruth's story ended as it should have. The entire series Ruth has been struggling to move beyond her roots, but at the same time she never really wanted to. The scene where she sees her father, uncle, and Wyatt - she was half gone. Was it sad to lose her? Yes. Was it the right conclusion for her character? Also yes.

Who did Jonah shoot? Tough one, but I think Jonah shot the detective. The Byrdes are one messed up family, but they are a family. Remember Charlotte telling Jonah it's ok if some part of him wants to go to the gala? More than one part of him wanted to go.

I think it ended as it should have overall.


Agree. It wasn't at all the ending I expected, but I like that it surprised me. All Jonah would have had to do was shoot the goat cookie jar - all the ashes would have blown away and been useless. I think that's how I would have ended it - the detective himself didn't have to die if the ashes were unusable.

So are we to understand that Marty and Wendy are not headed back to Chicago as they had planned, and instead will continue laundering money for Omar's sister?


How are you so sure that did not happen? They did a fade to black at the end before the gunshot. We never actually saw the PI get shot.


It seems even more unrealistic to think that Jonah was able to make precise a shot (a cookie jar the PI was holding), plus shooting with a shotgun that coose range would for sure kill the PI, too. I think this is a wishful overanalysis even though I, too, don’t think it is realistic Jonah would kill the PI after the version of his character portrayed through the entire series.


Finally got caught up and finished the series. HATED what they did to Jonah's character there, do not find it remotely plausible.


I found it plausible. The kids have sacrificed a lot and want to get back to a semblance of their old lives in Chicago. There was nothing left in Ozark for Jonah that he cared about.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2022 17:21     Subject: Ozark season 4 is out today!
Zeke was left with a friend of Ruth’s, forget her role. But I’d guess he ended up in foster care.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2022 16:30     Subject: Re:Ozark season 4 is out today!
What happened to Zeke? Poor baby was passed around so much, but they never showed where he ended up. Also, unbelievable that grandpa so easily got custody of Jonah and Charlotte. Wouldn’t there be months of assessment on his suitability, home visits, recommendations, etc.?

Over all, though, I really liked the show a lot and didn’t mind the ending.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2022 11:27     Subject: Re:Ozark season 4 is out today!
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I just finished the last episode. I wasn't happy but I was satisfied I guess.

I agree that all the Wendy and Marty maneuvering was over the top, but I feel like it was symbolic of their fate - they will always have to be one step ahead and looking over their shoulder.

Ruth - I'll be the outlier, but Ruth's story ended as it should have. The entire series Ruth has been struggling to move beyond her roots, but at the same time she never really wanted to. The scene where she sees her father, uncle, and Wyatt - she was half gone. Was it sad to lose her? Yes. Was it the right conclusion for her character? Also yes.

Who did Jonah shoot? Tough one, but I think Jonah shot the detective. The Byrdes are one messed up family, but they are a family. Remember Charlotte telling Jonah it's ok if some part of him wants to go to the gala? More than one part of him wanted to go.

I think it ended as it should have overall.


Agree. It wasn't at all the ending I expected, but I like that it surprised me. All Jonah would have had to do was shoot the goat cookie jar - all the ashes would have blown away and been useless. I think that's how I would have ended it - the detective himself didn't have to die if the ashes were unusable.

So are we to understand that Marty and Wendy are not headed back to Chicago as they had planned, and instead will continue laundering money for Omar's sister?


How are you so sure that did not happen? They did a fade to black at the end before the gunshot. We never actually saw the PI get shot.


It seems even more unrealistic to think that Jonah was able to make precise a shot (a cookie jar the PI was holding), plus shooting with a shotgun that coose range would for sure kill the PI, too. I think this is a wishful overanalysis even though I, too, don’t think it is realistic Jonah would kill the PI after the version of his character portrayed through the entire series.






Finally got caught up and finished the series. HATED what they did to Jonah's character there, do not find it remotely plausible.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2022 19:50     Subject: Ozark season 4 is out today!
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I would have liked it to end with Ruth in her new big house looking out over the pool and her lake and smiling at all she ended up with.


When I watched it I wondered if the Byrdes did die in that car accident and everything after was Marty's hallucination. The season started and essentially ended with the car crash. Everything after that went so perfectly for them. Sure, they seemed upset about Ruth, but like all the other deaths they'd put it behind them and move on. In my mind, it does end with Ruth at her new house!


This would have been an amazing twist


Could have pulled a Lost; Ozark is purgatory and actually the cartel killed Marty and the whole family along with everyone else in the first episode.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2022 19:40     Subject: Re:Ozark season 4 is out today!
The bad guys always win.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2022 13:34     Subject: Ozark season 4 is out today!
I’m so mad for Ruth! I kept thinking surely one of the Byrdes has to die to make it somewhat believable, but of course yet another show ends in disappointment. I don’t need a picture perfect ending where all my favorite characters survive and thrive, but this season just got more and more ridiculous and I was hoping it would end with something believable or exciting or at the very least with Wendy dead.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2022 19:44     Subject: Ozark season 4 is out today!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would have liked it to end with Ruth in her new big house looking out over the pool and her lake and smiling at all she ended up with.


When I watched it I wondered if the Byrdes did die in that car accident and everything after was Marty's hallucination. The season started and essentially ended with the car crash. Everything after that went so perfectly for them. Sure, they seemed upset about Ruth, but like all the other deaths they'd put it behind them and move on. In my mind, it does end with Ruth at her new house!


This would have been an amazing twist
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2022 18:53     Subject: Ozark season 4 is out today!
Anonymous wrote:I would have liked it to end with Ruth in her new big house looking out over the pool and her lake and smiling at all she ended up with.


When I watched it I wondered if the Byrdes did die in that car accident and everything after was Marty's hallucination. The season started and essentially ended with the car crash. Everything after that went so perfectly for them. Sure, they seemed upset about Ruth, but like all the other deaths they'd put it behind them and move on. In my mind, it does end with Ruth at her new house!