South from Bykhov leads to Gomel. Gomel is on the road to Chernihiv, Ukraine. If they blow the bridges there, you need to still get across Desna.

So...you need bridging units so you can approach Kyiv from the east/northeast. https://t.co/1JMGsCQ8qA

Anonymous wrote:It amazes me that Americans - especially in the DC area - don’t seem to flow-chart that if we get into a war with Russia, it’s not going to just happen near Russia.

We live in the biggest target in the country.


You all will be as surprised as residents of Tokyo were in April of 1942 when American B-25’s dropped bombs on their city, when Russian sub-launched hypersonic (hopefully conventional ones, not nukes) missiles start dropping on various places in the DC area.

We’re not isolated here. This war, it happens, has the potential to be right in our front yards.

+1000

It amazes me that Americans - especially in the DC area - don’t seem to flow-chart that if we get into a war with Russia, it’s not going to just happen near Russia.

We live in the biggest target in the country.


You all will be as surprised as residents of Tokyo were in April of 1942 when American B-25’s dropped bombs on their city, when Russian sub-launched hypersonic (hopefully conventional ones, not nukes) missiles start dropping on various places in the DC area.

We’re not isolated here. This war, it happens, has the potential to be right in our front yards.

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Anonymous wrote:There are continuing border crises in Lithuania, Hungary and Poland. All part of the game.

Slavs are at their best when moscow provides a guiding hand

Lithuanians and Hungarians are in no way Slavs. Not too bright are you?

Anonymous wrote:There are continuing border crises in Lithuania, Hungary and Poland. All part of the game.

Slavs are at their best when moscow provides a guiding hand

Anonymous wrote:Think about this, if Ukraine'spoliticans did not blackmail Russia with not renewing the gas contracts and trying to up the prices, would any of this have happened? Sure, Crimea as it has the majority of Russians living there and Ukraine refused to give them citizenship.
Play with the bear, get eaten by the bear.

Russian troll

There are continuing border crises in Lithuania, Hungary and Poland. All part of the game.

Developments in Ukraine are making me think of that TV movie from the early 80s, The Day After, and how a nuclear war was triggered by escalating tensions between Russia (then the Soviet Union) and the U.S. over Russian aggression in East Germany.

I’m not saying that Ukraine causes a nuclear war per se. However, this is the kind of spark that can easily set off a World War III, especially given how unstable and chaotic things already are because of COVID.

Anonymous wrote:Why is Russia about to invade Ukraine?
Bcs Putin knows he can. He is doing it in winter. You all think you can beat Russians in winter? LOL.
West is scared of covid... yes, still scared of it.
Russia will cut off Europe's gas supply. In winter, you get that, right?
Russia has the support of Germany and Germany is the EU now. How do you like them apples, U.K?
Russia needs to secure the gas lines, for its own economy. Putin needs to show strength to the Russian people.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want anyone to be invaded, I do not want a war. But, the reality in Europe has been that every time Germany is on the rise, as it has been and as Brexit made it even more so, conflict happens in Europe.
I hope I am wrong.

Germany is not threatening anyone despite your clear anti German hate.

Think about this, if Ukraine'spoliticans did not blackmail Russia with not renewing the gas contracts and trying to up the prices, would any of this have happened? Sure, Crimea as it has the majority of Russians living there and Ukraine refused to give them citizenship.
Play with the bear, get eaten by the bear.

Anonymous wrote:Have any of you actually been to Russia?

It’s a really pretty country and St. Petersburg is nicer than any American city.

Russian upper middle class have good taste - into chess, classical music, well read, multi lingual.

No, I have not been. I do not have some blind hate for Russia as many here do. Simply, BCS I did not grow up in the U.S. where everyone learned to hate the USSR and Russia. Americans need to stop Othering people and countries and pretend they are the "peacemaker" in the world.
The reality is that we can't afford these wars, we need to pay attention to our own social problems, instead of threatening violence to other countries that do just what the U.S does all the time.
I hate wars, and I want the U.S. to focus on socioeconomic issues at home. You can't have half of your population living in poverty and think you are going to still be the world's biggest political power. Yes, the U.S. is the biggest military power in the world, no doubt, but let's fix poverty before we end up in a civil war here.
The Trump era and all this rise of right-wing agenda is nothing but skilled manipulation of the poor that will end up in a civil war, as people living in poverty can only be "led by the right" for so long.

Why is Russia about to invade Ukraine?
Bcs Putin knows he can. He is doing it in winter. You all think you can beat Russians in winter? LOL.
West is scared of covid... yes, still scared of it.
Russia will cut off Europe's gas supply. In winter, you get that, right?
Russia has the support of Germany and Germany is the EU now. How do you like them apples, U.K?
Russia needs to secure the gas lines, for its own economy. Putin needs to show strength to the Russian people.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want anyone to be invaded, I do not want a war. But, the reality in Europe has been that every time Germany is on the rise, as it has been and as Brexit made it even more so, conflict happens in Europe.
I hope I am wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia is about to make an “incursion” to Ukraine, mark my words.
Probably within 2 days.

Why do you think that? My current thinking is that nothing will happen. That the Russian troops will go home but the supplies stay in place and they declare some sort of Olympic truce.

It will have to wait until the amphibious fleet has entered the Black Sea. After that, could be any time. Wait for pics of the Russian fleet clearing the Bosporus. I say 3-4 days after that, it’ll start.

It's the middle of winter and the ground is covered with snow. The satellite imagery shows that most of the new forward bases Russia has staged near the Ukraine border have a lot of extra vehicles and tents but the reality of the tents and vehicles is that the snow betrays the fact that most of the tents are currently unoccupied and most of the vehicles are just sitting idle.

Question: How long does it take to air lift a Infantry division (about 10,000 personnel) and get them into pre-positioned lager areas like you mentioned, where vehicles are sitting ready and bivouac emplacements are already set up?

Answer: about 6 hours with a couple dozen IL-76’s making 200 mile flights, twice. So, less than a full workday to go from parked vehicles and empty tents to having a full division in place and ready to roll out the next morning.

You folks really don’t understand how fast a modern military moves people and assets around when it’s for-real.

Everything in the current Russian army land warfare doctrine is stuff they observed us doing in 1992 against the Iraqi army. They watched us, and they learned, and they’ll do the same things we did. The Ukrainians aren’t even going to know what hit them, and it will (hopefully) be over in days.

At least Zalensky and Danilov have cooler heads and are telling everyone to cease with the sabre rattling and needless provocation. I pray they can be successful in telling everyone to shut-it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia is about to make an “incursion” to Ukraine, mark my words.
Probably within 2 days.

Why do you think that? My current thinking is that nothing will happen. That the Russian troops will go home but the supplies stay in place and they declare some sort of Olympic truce.

It will have to wait until the amphibious fleet has entered the Black Sea. After that, could be any time. Wait for pics of the Russian fleet clearing the Bosporus. I say 3-4 days after that, it’ll start.

It's the middle of winter and the ground is covered with snow. The satellite imagery shows that most of the new forward bases Russia has staged near the Ukraine border have a lot of extra vehicles and tents but the reality of the tents and vehicles is that the snow betrays the fact that most of the tents are currently unoccupied and most of the vehicles are just sitting idle.