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Anonymous wrote:I think the let it rip crowd is like the jocks in school who were terrible at math and percentages, they just deal in absolutes. Sports, good. Kids in school, not at home, good.

Give them a statistics problem and they have difficulty balancing the risks. Omicron is mild covid so is like a 5% version of Delta, but add to that a 20% chance that you develop long covid after omicron -- hey, how do you expect me to calculate THAT?!

This isn't quite fair. There are real mental health struggles to keeping kids at home without access to other kids and learning, and there are real food access and equality issues to kids who are living in poverty or on the edges of society. But those kids aren't the ones who have parents complaining about sports being cut off for two weeks. (Some of the kids I know on the edges like that are already in virtual, because their parents didn't trust the school system to protect them and their families from getting sick.)

This whining over the loss of two weeks of sports, when neighboring schools are actually closing their doors because too many teachers have caught covid to adequately staff the building, is insanely disproportionate. "Omicron is like the flu, life has to go on and covid will always be with us now, sports forever!" and meanwhile so many teachers are getting infected from this super catchy variant that there isn't sufficient staff to run the schools. Keeping the infected rate of students at a school low enough so that staff do not also become infected and are free to teach is more important than sports.

This is truly one of the single dumbest things I have read so far. But the sad part, I know that you and many others truly believe it.
The infection rate in children in APS was tiny.
And NO, my child doesn’t need to protect adults. My child isn’t responsible for the adults poor choices and behaviors.
The adults need to be responsible and protect themselves.
except they don’t because they don’t.

Also referring to now as "let it rip" is stupid too. Let it rip was before vaccines, now we have vaccines and boosters. Are red states canceling sports? Are they closing schools?

No, they're not. This is only happening in ultra blue states, especially in places with strong teachers unions.

And to get lectured by a COVID doomer about the actual flu level risk is hilarious. Please. Stop with the Long COVID scare porn - 20% - bahahaha. The research has shown how extremely rare it is, especially for healthy people. And it's similar to other viruses, like the flu.

20% or 1% get Long COVID! Hilarious. I mean, I now know 300+ people who have had COVID, not 1 who has had Long COVID. Come to think about it, which is identical to the # of people who I've known who've had long-term symptoms after the flu - 0.

You knew 300+ people who got COVID? Really?

Of course - not all friends, but coworkers, acquaintances, etc. You don't know at least 50 who have?

Everyone will be repeatedly exposed to it for the rest of their lives. Some people will get it asymptomatically (like my kids).

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Anonymous wrote:I think the let it rip crowd is like the jocks in school who were terrible at math and percentages, they just deal in absolutes. Sports, good. Kids in school, not at home, good.

Give them a statistics problem and they have difficulty balancing the risks. Omicron is mild covid so is like a 5% version of Delta, but add to that a 20% chance that you develop long covid after omicron -- hey, how do you expect me to calculate THAT?!

This isn't quite fair. There are real mental health struggles to keeping kids at home without access to other kids and learning, and there are real food access and equality issues to kids who are living in poverty or on the edges of society. But those kids aren't the ones who have parents complaining about sports being cut off for two weeks. (Some of the kids I know on the edges like that are already in virtual, because their parents didn't trust the school system to protect them and their families from getting sick.)

This whining over the loss of two weeks of sports, when neighboring schools are actually closing their doors because too many teachers have caught covid to adequately staff the building, is insanely disproportionate. "Omicron is like the flu, life has to go on and covid will always be with us now, sports forever!" and meanwhile so many teachers are getting infected from this super catchy variant that there isn't sufficient staff to run the schools. Keeping the infected rate of students at a school low enough so that staff do not also become infected and are free to teach is more important than sports.

This is truly one of the single dumbest things I have read so far. But the sad part, I know that you and many others truly believe it.
The infection rate in children in APS was tiny.
And NO, my child doesn’t need to protect adults. My child isn’t responsible for the adults poor choices and behaviors.
The adults need to be responsible and protect themselves.
except they don’t because they don’t.

Also referring to now as "let it rip" is stupid too. Let it rip was before vaccines, now we have vaccines and boosters. Are red states canceling sports? Are they closing schools?

No, they're not. This is only happening in ultra blue states, especially in places with strong teachers unions.

And to get lectured by a COVID doomer about the actual flu level risk is hilarious. Please. Stop with the Long COVID scare porn - 20% - bahahaha. The research has shown how extremely rare it is, especially for healthy people. And it's similar to other viruses, like the flu.

20% or 1% get Long COVID! Hilarious. I mean, I now know 300+ people who have had COVID, not 1 who has had Long COVID. Come to think about it, which is identical to the # of people who I've known who've had long-term symptoms after the flu - 0.

You knew 300+ people who got COVID? Really?

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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of Arlington parents running to print shops when they’re all butt hurt about something. Let Them Play signs? GMAFB

Are you serious?

I haven’t seen them in real life, but they were described and shown in today’s ArlNow article. 🙄

Yes, those poor kids going for college scholarships in athletics. The world needs ditch diggers too!

There's really nothing more anti-equity than a closed schooler. They're the new white supremacists (and anti-vaxxers since they don't think vaccines work).

Yes, those 45 year old COVIDian Karens really are scared to death while triple-vaccinated of getting the equivalent of a cold. Considering their age, the odds were pre-vaccine that they'd get at worst a cold.

Hey but screw those poor minority kids.

It's funny now how people all of the sudden care about poor minority kids when it fits their agenda.

Yes, like those rich, North Arlington COVIDians like Ventilation Woman, Lunch Petitioner and CO2 Monitor Woman. They are the definition of the elite in this country.

The closed schoolers hide behind minorities, immunocompromised and the elderly to protect themselves from getting a cold. For them, they're the true anti-vaxxers as they don't think vaccines work since they don't stop transmission.

They cannot get 1 cold (although Ventilation Woman seems to think she's going to be permanently disabled by getting COVID, just like so many healthy people are in their 40s when they get the flu ).

From AEM, you can see how out of touch they are. When you're overwhelmingly losing a poll on AEM (which has the most COVID paranoid people at APS), then you know you're out of touch.

Cannot believe you are gloating about a self-selected, meaningless INTERNET POLL and thinking you've contributed something of value. Are you an adult?

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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of Arlington parents running to print shops when they’re all butt hurt about something. Let Them Play signs? GMAFB

Are you serious?

I haven’t seen them in real life, but they were described and shown in today’s ArlNow article. 🙄

Yes, those poor kids going for college scholarships in athletics. The world needs ditch diggers too!

There's really nothing more anti-equity than a closed schooler. They're the new white supremacists (and anti-vaxxers since they don't think vaccines work).

Yes, those 45 year old COVIDian Karens really are scared to death while triple-vaccinated of getting the equivalent of a cold. Considering their age, the odds were pre-vaccine that they'd get at worst a cold.

Hey but screw those poor minority kids.

It's funny now how people all of the sudden care about poor minority kids when it fits their agenda.

They don't give a damn. They're just, as always, playing the But Think of the Disadvantaged Kids card to get their own way for their own kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of Arlington parents running to print shops when they’re all butt hurt about something. Let Them Play signs? GMAFB

Are you serious?

HAHAHA. What a bunch of pathetic losers desperate to live vicariously through their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:The closed school advocates including the superintendent of PG County Schools should take 2 minutes and listen to Eric Adams, the new NYC mayor. He spoke today on national news as an advocate for all students in NYC but especially the poor and underserved children and explained wholeheartedly how much disadvantaged children need to be in school from a safety, mental health, food, security as well as an academic perspective. It’s beyond compelling and to me l wish our local leaders cared as much. Honestly, l just don’t understand how these closing school advocates sleep at night.

This thread is about sports and extracurricular activities.

+1

I don't lose sleep at night because APE's overprivileged children have two weeks off from basketball.

+2. Not in the slightest, and the idea is laughable.

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Anonymous wrote:No athletics= no testing for those kids. You really think they aren’t hanging out together anyway? Did you see the sports fields this weekend, lots of teens “practicing”. Life goes on no matter these “rules”.

If they had responsible parents, they’d get testing anyway. You don’t need schools to do that for you, in addition to taking over every other job of parenting.

They won't though. APEs are against screening testing.

And these are precisely the kids we want tested. Outside APS no masking with these folks.

Why on earth should we test kids to go to school when much higher risk adults aren’t tested to go to restaurants, bars, gyms or anywhere else?

This is a Zero COVID strategy, which is impossible, but solely at expense of children. Completely illogical.

No wonder there’s not any tests for people who are actually sick since these closed schoolers are testing themselves all the time when they’re not even sick.

100%. This is why the cancellation of athletics is even more frustrating. Those athletes are (unnecessarily) tested every day, so they could see an outbreak in advance anyway.

They could “see an outbreak in advance” are you kidding me? The testing doesn’t find the outbreaks in advance! The testing finds the outbreaks after they happen and tries to prevent them from spreading further. Have you noticed the bunches of covid positive tests showing up for kids at the high schools? Those are from the athletics testing, genius, and it’s rarely one kid at a time. Omicron spreads at rates that some scientists have estimated is 70% more effective than previous variants. So as soon as you find one case around kids breathing heavily in close contact with one another, you will find multiples, and those kids may take out the rest of their families (per Mike Sullivan, the local Arlington ER doctor who noted that with Omicron he is seeing many many cases where one case of Omicron hits everyone in the entire family whereas previous variants were not necessarily getting everyone in the family).

Seriously, the temerity of these sports families to underestimate the virus at every turn, complain about masks, complain about a two week sports hiatus when more staff members at APS have caught covid in the last WEEK (140+) than have caught covid in all the other weeks of the school year combined (121) and school principals are just doing everything they can to find staff to cover every class and tape together some plan to keep academics going relatively safely, and you are upset about SPORTS? About SPORTS???

Smdh

COVID will be here forever and everyone will be repeatedly exposed to it the rest of their lives. People like the Smart Restart think COVID is Ebola (and that is who is writing these posts supporting closing sports as the decision is universally unpopular among APS families). It’s pathetic.

They’re essentially pushing to close sports every year since COVID will be here forever. Next, it will be once flu season returns too. They don’t want life to return to normal.

These are triple-vaccinated adults with vaccinated kids (and kids under 5 have less than a flu level risk) trying to avoid at worst a bad cold.

Screw sports and normal childhoods. We need 0 colds. No one can ever get a cold again

It’s not even sports and extracurriculars. Their main people are on social media, complaining about how VA state law now requires schools to been open. They’re for closed schools. That’s who they are.

Maybe your pet law isn’t as popular with the general parent population as it is in your echo chamber.

Get ready for a form of it to be enshrined into law permanently with R governor, R House of Delegates and a state senate effectively controlled by Rs on school returning to normal. Plus, there will be a strong push for it to be extended to extracurriculars now too as a result of Arlington’s actions.

A majority of APS families at all times last year wanted kids in school. I can only imagine how overwhelmingly popular that would be now at APS if they resurveyed families. That’s in bright blue Arlington too. You can only imagine how popular that is statewide.

No law is permanent. Have you not taken high school government class yet? Don't worry. You'll get there.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like some APEs have a case of the Mondays

Now they’re going to rage about the snow. Their entitled kids shouldn’t have to stay home for snow.

Their own personal street is clear. Open just their personal school! Nothing is more important than their precious, precious "student athletes."

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Anonymous wrote:No athletics= no testing for those kids. You really think they aren’t hanging out together anyway? Did you see the sports fields this weekend, lots of teens “practicing”. Life goes on no matter these “rules”.

If they had responsible parents, they’d get testing anyway. You don’t need schools to do that for you, in addition to taking over every other job of parenting.

They won't though. APEs are against screening testing.

And these are precisely the kids we want tested. Outside APS no masking with these folks.

Why on earth should we test kids to go to school when much higher risk adults aren’t tested to go to restaurants, bars, gyms or anywhere else?

This is a Zero COVID strategy, which is impossible, but solely at expense of children. Completely illogical.

No wonder there’s not any tests for people who are actually sick since these closed schoolers are testing themselves all the time when they’re not even sick.

100%. This is why the cancellation of athletics is even more frustrating. Those athletes are (unnecessarily) tested every day, so they could see an outbreak in advance anyway.

They could “see an outbreak in advance” are you kidding me? The testing doesn’t find the outbreaks in advance! The testing finds the outbreaks after they happen and tries to prevent them from spreading further. Have you noticed the bunches of covid positive tests showing up for kids at the high schools? Those are from the athletics testing, genius, and it’s rarely one kid at a time. Omicron spreads at rates that some scientists have estimated is 70% more effective than previous variants. So as soon as you find one case around kids breathing heavily in close contact with one another, you will find multiples, and those kids may take out the rest of their families (per Mike Sullivan, the local Arlington ER doctor who noted that with Omicron he is seeing many many cases where one case of Omicron hits everyone in the entire family whereas previous variants were not necessarily getting everyone in the family).

Seriously, the temerity of these sports families to underestimate the virus at every turn, complain about masks, complain about a two week sports hiatus when more staff members at APS have caught covid in the last WEEK (140+) than have caught covid in all the other weeks of the school year combined (121) and school principals are just doing everything they can to find staff to cover every class and tape together some plan to keep academics going relatively safely, and you are upset about SPORTS? About SPORTS???

Smdh

COVID will be here forever and everyone will be repeatedly exposed to it the rest of their lives. People like the Smart Restart think COVID is Ebola (and that is who is writing these posts supporting closing sports as the decision is universally unpopular among APS families). It’s pathetic.

They’re essentially pushing to close sports every year since COVID will be here forever. Next, it will be once flu season returns too. They don’t want life to return to normal.

These are triple-vaccinated adults with vaccinated kids (and kids under 5 have less than a flu level risk) trying to avoid at worst a bad cold.

Screw sports and normal childhoods. We need 0 colds. No one can ever get a cold again

Except, of course, for the people who get it and it isn't "a cold," jackass.

There are plenty of trolls on here, but instead of posting unsubstantiated facts how this i merely endemic now, let's look at where the rubber hits the road: hospitalizations.

Hospitalizations are higher than any other point during the pandemic (except one) and they are still rising/ If this was "endemic" and not a pandemic, why?

Source: https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/see-the-numbers/covid-19-in-virginia/vhha-hospitalizations/.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the let it rip crowd is like the jocks in school who were terrible at math and percentages, they just deal in absolutes. Sports, good. Kids in school, not at home, good.

Give them a statistics problem and they have difficulty balancing the risks. Omicron is mild covid so is like a 5% version of Delta, but add to that a 20% chance that you develop long covid after omicron -- hey, how do you expect me to calculate THAT?!

This isn't quite fair. There are real mental health struggles to keeping kids at home without access to other kids and learning, and there are real food access and equality issues to kids who are living in poverty or on the edges of society. But those kids aren't the ones who have parents complaining about sports being cut off for two weeks. (Some of the kids I know on the edges like that are already in virtual, because their parents didn't trust the school system to protect them and their families from getting sick.)

This whining over the loss of two weeks of sports, when neighboring schools are actually closing their doors because too many teachers have caught covid to adequately staff the building, is insanely disproportionate. "Omicron is like the flu, life has to go on and covid will always be with us now, sports forever!" and meanwhile so many teachers are getting infected from this super catchy variant that there isn't sufficient staff to run the schools. Keeping the infected rate of students at a school low enough so that staff do not also become infected and are free to teach is more important than sports.

This is truly one of the single dumbest things I have read so far. But the sad part, I know that you and many others truly believe it.
The infection rate in children in APS was tiny.
And NO, my child doesn’t need to protect adults. My child isn’t responsible for the adults poor choices and behaviors.
The adults need to be responsible and protect themselves.
except they don’t because they don’t.

Also referring to now as "let it rip" is stupid too. Let it rip was before vaccines, now we have vaccines and boosters. Are red states canceling sports? Are they closing schools?

No, they're not. This is only happening in ultra blue states, especially in places with strong teachers unions.

And to get lectured by a COVID doomer about the actual flu level risk is hilarious. Please. Stop with the Long COVID scare porn - 20% - bahahaha. The research has shown how extremely rare it is, especially for healthy people. And it's similar to other viruses, like the flu.

20% or 1% get Long COVID! Hilarious. I mean, I now know 300+ people who have had COVID, not 1 who has had Long COVID. Come to think about it, which is identical to the # of people who I've known who've had long-term symptoms after the flu - 0.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the let it rip crowd is like the jocks in school who were terrible at math and percentages, they just deal in absolutes. Sports, good. Kids in school, not at home, good.

Give them a statistics problem and they have difficulty balancing the risks. Omicron is mild covid so is like a 5% version of Delta, but add to that a 20% chance that you develop long covid after omicron -- hey, how do you expect me to calculate THAT?!

This isn't quite fair. There are real mental health struggles to keeping kids at home without access to other kids and learning, and there are real food access and equality issues to kids who are living in poverty or on the edges of society. But those kids aren't the ones who have parents complaining about sports being cut off for two weeks. (Some of the kids I know on the edges like that are already in virtual, because their parents didn't trust the school system to protect them and their families from getting sick.)

This whining over the loss of two weeks of sports, when neighboring schools are actually closing their doors because too many teachers have caught covid to adequately staff the building, is insanely disproportionate. "Omicron is like the flu, life has to go on and covid will always be with us now, sports forever!" and meanwhile so many teachers are getting infected from this super catchy variant that there isn't sufficient staff to run the schools. Keeping the infected rate of students at a school low enough so that staff do not also become infected and are free to teach is more important than sports.

This is truly one of the single dumbest things I have read so far. But the sad part, I know that you and many others truly believe it.
The infection rate in children in APS was tiny.
And NO, my child doesn’t need to protect adults. My child isn’t responsible for the adults poor choices and behaviors.
The adults need to be responsible and protect themselves.
except they don’t because they don’t.

Also referring to now as "let it rip" is stupid too. Let it rip was before vaccines, now we have vaccines and boosters. Are red states canceling sports? Are they closing schools?

No, they're not. This is only happening in ultra blue states, especially in places with strong teachers unions.

And to get lectured by a COVID doomer about the actual flu level risk is hilarious. Please. Stop with the Long COVID scare porn - 20% - bahahaha. The research has shown how extremely rare it is, especially for healthy people. And it's similar to other viruses, like the flu.

Anonymous wrote:I think the let it rip crowd is like the jocks in school who were terrible at math and percentages, they just deal in absolutes. Sports, good. Kids in school, not at home, good.

Give them a statistics problem and they have difficulty balancing the risks. Omicron is mild covid so is like a 5% version of Delta, but add to that a 20% chance that you develop long covid after omicron -- hey, how do you expect me to calculate THAT?!

This isn't quite fair. There are real mental health struggles to keeping kids at home without access to other kids and learning, and there are real food access and equality issues to kids who are living in poverty or on the edges of society. But those kids aren't the ones who have parents complaining about sports being cut off for two weeks. (Some of the kids I know on the edges like that are already in virtual, because their parents didn't trust the school system to protect them and their families from getting sick.)

This whining over the loss of two weeks of sports, when neighboring schools are actually closing their doors because too many teachers have caught covid to adequately staff the building, is insanely disproportionate. "Omicron is like the flu, life has to go on and covid will always be with us now, sports forever!" and meanwhile so many teachers are getting infected from this super catchy variant that there isn't sufficient staff to run the schools. Keeping the infected rate of students at a school low enough so that staff do not also become infected and are free to teach is more important than sports.

This is truly one of the single dumbest things I have read so far. But the sad part, I know that you and many others truly believe it.
The infection rate in children in APS was tiny.
And NO, my child doesn’t need to protect adults. My child isn’t responsible for the adults poor choices and behaviors.
The adults need to be responsible and protect themselves.
except they don’t because they don’t.

I think the let it rip crowd is like the jocks in school who were terrible at math and percentages, they just deal in absolutes. Sports, good. Kids in school, not at home, good.

Give them a statistics problem and they have difficulty balancing the risks. Omicron is mild covid so is like a 5% version of Delta, but add to that a 20% chance that you develop long covid after omicron -- hey, how do you expect me to calculate THAT?!

This isn't quite fair. There are real mental health struggles to keeping kids at home without access to other kids and learning, and there are real food access and equality issues to kids who are living in poverty or on the edges of society. But those kids aren't the ones who have parents complaining about sports being cut off for two weeks. (Some of the kids I know on the edges like that are already in virtual, because their parents didn't trust the school system to protect them and their families from getting sick.)

This whining over the loss of two weeks of sports, when neighboring schools are actually closing their doors because too many teachers have caught covid to adequately staff the building, is insanely disproportionate. "Omicron is like the flu, life has to go on and covid will always be with us now, sports forever!" and meanwhile so many teachers are getting infected from this super catchy variant that there isn't sufficient staff to run the schools. Keeping the infected rate of students at a school low enough so that staff do not also become infected and are free to teach is more important than sports.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really annoyed that my kid is going to have to wait until Thursday or possibly even Monday to catch omicron. This is America!

All the athletes are all hanging out together and practicing informally together right now, but now they're not being testing. Surveillance testing is stupid anyway, and we need to get away from counting cases for an endemic virus.

So that's a huge win.

Yes! The COVIDians want everyone in the whole school tested weekly, as they're trying to go for Zero COVID, but only in schools with no restrictions whatsoever on adults. Athletes were the only ones getting tested daily so this is great.

By the time this is over, Youngkin will be in office too. Can't wait for the new VDH head too.